I don't believe we are interested in Steven at all. If we are looking at a Steven or Higgins (Higgins is way better imo) I think it means that Selly is cooked and that they don't want Danger taking command out of the middle again full time.
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I think thats a significant downgrade..to have to wait 12 months to see what its worth...
it would only be acceptable if the club highly rated next years draft.. or had a target where that R1 pick could be handy .. so I personally would not mind it ..it would give us ammunition to approach GoldCoast about Ben King. If you think Stk is the only club that is going to put the welcome mat out for him ..I think you are mistaken...
Firstly I didn’t want to give up pick 6. There’s fire sale at the Crows.
Secondly, You can approach for Ben, but he’s only going to StK. His Bros there. He went for them as a kid and his family already treat him as a Saints player.
One of the floggiest trades i've seen on the football facebook pages is Hill from Freo to St Kilda, Stevens from St Kilda to Geelong, and Kelly from Geelong to Freo.
No picks. This guy kept saying "but but but Stevens has won 4 BnFs."
Won 4 B&Fs at the Saints....
Not exactly the same as 4 at the Cats.
PLUS he's on the wrong side of 30, PLUS he has big off field issues.
Third rounder at best.
I could win a B n F at the Saints it isn’t much of a boast
Winning a BnF at any club is a big deal.
With a bottom dwelling club I disagreeWinning a BnF at any club is a big deal.
I agree. They should be treating this similar to how Geelong has been compassionate with some of their players (not playing hardball). He wants to head home, he has suffered from mental illness, he is in the twilight of his career.It will come down to his health if he is in bad way Saints can not ask much so will be over 40 the pick
It will come down to his health if he is in bad way Saints can not ask much so will be over 40 the pick
The answer to the subject question can’t be answered until 4 weeks time -
- if we win GF
- how we shape up in mid field contest and speed
- who leaves and what we get in return (presumably for Kelly)
- what the asking price is
- what sort of shape is Stevens in
If we bring home the cup i’d be tempted to pass and focus on developing next gen of mids (assuming we get a good mid for Kelly and back Constable and perhaps Simpson). Exception to this is if we lose Joel as well as Kelly, as potentially we’d really struggle for a couple of years.
If we lose GF and answers to my initial questions are right I’d go for Stevens - assuming premiership window is open for another 2 years he might be worth the punt.
I thought Higgins got the extra year he wanted from norf and had signed a new deal or was about to? He isn't coming here.Listening to sen this morning on the trading bell ... the though was a R3 but that we take all his dollars ... the conversation was how do they seel an R3 to the fans.....
also .. the way they talked Higgins was still in play and that we could not fit both in our cap
So If we take all of Steven money , the dump Carlise , they dump Bruise ...they must be making room for someone.. they must think they are in play for Ben King or or they are banking the money.. or it doesnt make sence..
I thought Higgins got the extra year he wanted from norf and had signed a new deal or was about to? He isn't coming here.
And I would have thought the saints would be way under the cap considering they were throwing million dollar offers at big name players trying to get them over. They have the past few years and have been unsuccessful. That money must still be there.
Don't know how that will all work cause they don't need to save cap money. Maybe they are just being realistic and know they won't get a high pick for him so this might be their only option of getting some additional return to go with a later pick.He has been offered but as yet ..not signed.. (apparently)
I agree on the cap..too but I guess we will see...if we get Steven for that type of pick..it will be because we have taken the money out of their cap..
Don't know how that will all work cause they don't need to save cap money. Maybe they are just being realistic and know they won't get a high pick for him so this might be their only option of getting some additional return to go with a later pick.
They will have a lot of cap space to sign players, but the question is will anyone want to come? Their last few targets have have had buckets thrown at them, and refused.
He not worth that sort of money, I really hope we don’t get himHe has been offered but as yet ..not signed.. (apparently)
I agree on the cap..too but I guess we will see...if we get Steven for that type of pick..it will be because we have taken the money out of their cap..