Does anyone rate Damien Adkins?

[Tas]

He's not the best player going around but he can slip under the radar a bit.
Hope he does well on Friday night.

He did quite well against us at Subi in the pre-season game. I am sure Laidley looked at the video of that game. He was pretty good.

That might be the reason JW decided to give him a go.

 

[coasting]

Thanks Tas. He has also played well at Telstra Dome many times. If Jaded JuJu and Shortshank are too lazy to look this up its not my problem. I mean imagine promoting a guy who has played well against North and at the Dome in a game on a ground we haven't played well at. Woosha must be a moron The ground obviously suits him perfectly. If you think Daniel McConnell or Matt Rosa will offer more to us in this game than Damien Adkins right now then there is no helping you. We are 4 games clear on top of the ladder, we are trying to win a premiership here!

Now Gunnar, stop posting your knee jerk reaction threads, think before you post and come back when you learn something about football!

 

[hawkeye23]

Coasting > I thought Kinny was far and away the dumbest person loitering around these boards, but you're making a concerted push for the title.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

 

[Eagles 4 Mine]

I haven't even been on here and I am remembered very well love you all
especially you GUNNAR.
Like I have said before what GUNNAR say's goes, isn't that right GUNNAR.
Any way I think that Damien Atkins can be a good fringe player but I would like to see him on the half forward flank and run straight at goal, his pace can hurt the opposition they would have to scrag him to stop him Imo.

 

[Eagles4Ever]

I think he will play. We were too tall last week in the forward line, and with TD being a small ground I'd imagine the ball will be in or around the 50m arc quite a bit. This would suite Chippers skill and pace at ground level, plus his long kicking from outside 50.

He' also my sponsored EHP player so I'm biased.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Pot. Kettle. Black.

You could accuse me of being many things.

'Arrogant' and 'misanthropic' might fly, but 'stupid' and 'inarticulate' are not on that list.

You know I'm right. Deal with it.

 

[Eagles_09]

Back On to the Topic, I also semi rate him i think he can be a very good player but saying that when he is down he pretty ordinary, i really hope he goes well tonight because he has been working hard in the wafl and deserves a chance.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

i really hope he goes well tonight because he has been working hard in the wafl and deserves a chance.

Couldn't you say the same of 7-8 guys? Many of whom are younger, or fill a more obvious hole in our team.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Thanks Tas. He has also played well at Telstra Dome many times. If Jaded JuJu and Shortshank are too lazy to look this up its not my problem. I mean imagine promoting a guy who has played well against North and at the Dome in a game on a ground we haven't played well at. Woosha must be a moron The ground obviously suits him perfectly. If you think Daniel McConnell or Matt Rosa will offer more to us in this game than Damien Adkins right now then there is no helping you. We are 4 games clear on top of the ladder, we are trying to win a premiership here!

Now Gunnar, stop posting your knee jerk reaction threads, think before you post and come back when you learn something about football!

I'm not trying to say you're wrong here coasting, but when has he played well at the dome?

I didn't know whether he'd done well in the Wizard Cup, seen as how about 2/3 of the best 22 played and it was at Subi (and pre season), I assumed you wouldn't be basing what you were saying around that.

but like I said, best of luck to him.

Oh and using the inclusion of Damien Adkins along with 'we are trying to win a premiership here!' was a good one.

 

[Eagles_09]

Couldn't you say the same of 7-8 guys? Many of whom are younger, or fill a more obvious hole in our team.

Yeah you probably could but its obvious woosha likes him as he has been picked many times when others could off, all i am saying is that if he does play then i hope he goes alright and repays the faith of the selection commitee..

 

[Ruddiger]

I've always been a fan of Chipper. He has a low turnover and clanger count, kicks some big goals and always has a crack when he gets the chance. 12 possessions, 3 marks and a goal is a good return for an impact player.

He is a well-liked player at the club and we won't trade him at the end of the year.

 

[Mead]

I'm not trying to say you're wrong here coasting, but when has he played well at the dome?

I didn't know whether he'd done well in the Wizard Cup, seen as how about 2/3 of the best 22 played and it was at Subi (and pre season), I assumed you wouldn't be basing what you were saying around that.

but like I said, best of luck to him.

Oh and using the inclusion of Damien Adkins along with 'we are trying to win a premiership here!' was a good one.

From memory, he was one of our better players against the Dons in that heartbreaking loss last season, and also pretty good in round 1 '04 v the western bulldogs.

 

[embleygirl]

That goal he kicked was awesome...wasn't even looking

 

[94_Eagles]

Well done Chipper, showed more tonight than 90% of rookies have shown for us this year.

 

[coasting]

Well he only had limited time on the ground but in that time he kicked a goal. Would Rosa or McConnell have kicked a goal in that time? I doubt it. How much did we win by? 4 pts. His selection was well and truly justified IMO

 

[Frodo]

We always have the problem of the gulf between WAFL and AFL. It normally takes a run of two or three games in the senior side to get up to that level. Adkins was very good at the end of last season so I believe he has the ability.

However, Embers and Edwards are very good marking players and we brought in Butler (great first half) and Adkins, who don't mark as well. The Dome suits taller players. So my feeling was that Doogs should have played, off the bench but easing him back so he hits form for the business end of the season.

 

[Tas]

We always have the problem of the gulf between WAFL and AFL. It normally takes a run of two or three games in the senior side to get up to that level. Adkins was very good at the end of last season so I believe he has the ability.

However, Embers and Edwards are very good marking players and we brought in Butler (great first half) and Adkins, who don't mark as well. The Dome suits taller players. So my feeling was that Doogs should have played, off the bench but easing him back so he hits form for the business end of the season.

McDougal is a harder player to match up on in my opinion. He is quick and a great mark. I was expecting him to play and thought if he had we would have had more problems down back.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Well he only had limited time on the ground but in that time he kicked a goal. Would Rosa or McConnell have kicked a goal in that time? I doubt it. How much did we win by? 4 pts. His selection was well and truly justified IMO

As you've pointed our several times, he's our TD specialist and has an awesome record against the Kangaroos.

His performance last night surpassed his previous best of 3 possessions against them.

 

[coasting]

As you've pointed our several times, he's our TD specialist and has an awesome record against the Kangaroos.

His performance last night surpassed his previous best of 3 possessions against them.

So what? I said horses for courses not horses for teams. In any event, current form is what coaches look at, not what happened years ago. His best performance against the Roos was in our last preseason game. Yes the coaches take notice. But since you are obviously scoring points now, since you were so clearly wrong about his selection as you are about many other things, his best game in a regular season came while playing for Collingwood in 2000. Now pull your head in and admit you were wrong! Adkins deserved his place in the team, his selection could have even won us the game. He brought more to the game than "Morton, McConnell, Rosa or Lecras" would have. But I hope you keep posting your threads. You are the kiss of death.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

But since you are obviously scoring points now, since you were so clearly wrong about his selection as you are about many other things, his best game in a regular season came while playing for Collingwood in 2000. Now pull your head in and admit you were wrong! Adkins deserved his place in the team, his selection could have even won us the game. He brought more to the game than "Morton, McConnell, Rosa or Lecras" would have. But I hope you keep posting your threads. You are the kiss of death.

Why? Because he kicked a goal?

Was he a match-winner? Would we have lost without him?

You're clutching at straws.

 

[coasting]

Why? Because he kicked a goal?

Was he a match-winner? Would we have lost without him?

You're clutching at straws.

I think you'll find you are the one who is 'clutching at straws'. He did his job, better than a rookie would have done, which was the point of your original post, which you seem to have forgot! Would a rookie have kicked that clutch goal in the last quarter? I doubt it. They made the right selection, no doubt about it. He made a small contribution, but his contribution was greater than a rookies would have been and it ended up being greater than the final result. We are trying to win games, it was the right decision.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

I think you'll find you are the one who is 'clutching at straws'. He did his job, better than a rookie would have done, which was the point of your original post, which you seem to have forgot! Would a rookie have kicked that clutch goal in the last quarter?

Clutch goal? You mean the one in the third quarter where we had complete control of the game?

I think he went OK last night with limited game time. I'm not bagging his performance last night, but I don't think he did anything to dispel the concerns I expressed in my initial post.

Whenever I criticise a player, people seize on inconsequential stuff in an attempt to prove me wrong. Adkins was OK last night, and the fact he kicked one goal doesn't demolish any of my points.

 

[coasting]

It was a clutch goal because he kicked it blind-sighted and because it came at a crucial time in the match that gave us a nice little buffer. The only point you raised in your original post was that a rookie would have been better off. Why? Which rookies have played well interstate? None. Aaron Edwards had one nice quarter vs Richmond, that was it. Damien Adkins was always going to give us a better output than the players you mentioned for this game and thats why he was correctly chosen. It really is that simple.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

It was a clutch goal because he kicked it blind-sighted and because it came at a crucial time in the match that gave us a nice little buffer.

That's a bit rich. We were doing it easy in the 3rd term. Why was it a particularly crucial point in the match?

I could argue that all of the goals we kicked were "crucial".

Damien Adkins was always going to give us a better output than the players you mentioned for this game and thats why he was correctly chosen. It really is that simple.

I reckon McDougall could have given us another option up forward. I have my doubts about McDougall, but I'd like to see him play again at some stage this season. Last night would have been a good opportunity to slot him back into the side. He could have kicked a couple of "crucial" goals.

It's all academic really. We can't know if any other inclusions would have done more or less than Adkins.

Graham, R. Jones, LeCras, McConnell, McDougall, Morton. Adkins' game wasn't so great that you can say with any certainty that none of these guys would have matched his contribution.

Don't exaggerate my criticisms of Chipper. I'm not saying he's a dud. I don't mind him being in the mix, but I do see him as a bit-player.

I think that's a pretty reasonable position.

 

[utility]

I rate Adkins, I rated him when he was at Collingwood too. I think he'd be best served looking for another club as I just don't see the opportunities for him at West Coast. I'm not sure how McDougall is travelling but I really think you guys could use him on the forward line... I rate him a lot higher than Lynch and it allows Lynch to be played in the back half against the bigger forwards.