Analysis Does Derek Get a Pass Mark?

[frizzle]

Draft night this year was always going to be a bit meh, with the crap picks we held. Not excited by the new guys selected but time will tell. Treloar, Aish & Howe are our new toys this year. Happy looking at those 3 in 2016. If we get something out of the 3 new young kids in the future then it's a bonus.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Derek always gets a pass mark

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

To be honest he's only nailed Elliot, De Goey and Grundy recently. His picks in 2008 in Beams and SS were genius, but since then their would of roughly been 70 or so turkeys. As a list Manger in trade period he earns his cash no problem. But his talent identification is poor, way to many players with kinks in their game which as he like to describe all to often as PROJECT TYPE. I'm no expert but my opinion is king to myself, and I don't rate Hine on draft day. Pies should throw the kitchen sink at Wright, bring back a favourite son who nails it most of the time. In saying this hope the **** that Sier is a gun.

With 40 on a list they cant all succeed in a 22 a side game

Maynard and Langdon look like inspired picks too. Ramsay, Broomhead.... Reid Brown Dawes in the one draft (3/4 of our premiership spine)..the list goes on.

Shaz and Freeman were just dumb luck but he managed to cut his losses with Freeman by geeting Aish to the club

Later picks are hit and miss and I'm prepared to back him. When you trade early picks away for guns in a weak draft, with a young list, no better opportunity to look for smokies.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

But if you look at our rookie/scholarship/clever trading with GWS zoning selections, then 2011 landed us Jarrod Witts, Marley Williams and Jamie Elliott! Not a bad haul at all!

I thought Elliott was a Suns zone player?

 

[The Dawes]

Clearly Derek likes his big bodied private school boys.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I thought Elliott was a Suns zone player?

I thought he was pre-listed by them, then traded to us with others for our 1st round pick

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I thought he was pre-listed by them, then traded to us with others for our 1st round pick

Yep, marty Clarke. My point was that it was suns not giants....Might be wrong though although I rarely am!

 

[76woodenspooners]

DH shops at ALDI

I hope not, I really hope not.

I'd no longer trust in Hine if he did.

I can't stand that place. IMO it's an utter abomination of a junk shop. Every experience I've had in that god forsaken place has ended up in bitter frustration and despair.

IMHO Hine shops at the Fairfield IGA ...

... And he shops for his American imports at Trader Joes

 

[Anzacday]

Our need is for a fast/skilful crumbing small forward.
It just so happens the indigenous boys do it in their sleep.
Hence the call by some to draft one/some.
I don't care if we do or we don't draft an indigenous player.
I just want A player that has the attributes we need.

 

[peter9789]

No short people this year.... That has to be good


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[Mudeo]

Realistically if one of these players from this draft make it it should be considered a win, we already picked up Treloar and Aish who are both still young. I really like the look of Phillips and Crocker from their highlights. Is next year a strong KPP draft? Maybe Hine is targeting that draft for KPP's

 

[1892]

Realistically if one of these players from this draft make it it should be considered a win, we already picked up Treloar and Aish who are both still young. I really like the look of Phillips and Crocker from their highlights. Is next year a strong KPP draft? Maybe Hine is targeting that draft for KPP's

Supposedly it's strong for mids, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Hine buck the trend and go tall.

 

[jmac70]

I hope not, I really hope not.

I'd no longer trust in Hine if he did.

I can't stand that place. IMO it's an utter abomination of a junk shop. Every experience I've had in that god forsaken place has ended up in bitter frustration and despair.

IMHO Hine shops at the Fairfield IGA ...

... And he shops for his American imports at Trader Joes

You have obviously never been there for the mid-week special buys. It's treasure trove of things I didn't know I desperately need.

 

[Nightowl]

We need an indiginous ranga!!

Liam Jones...

 

[mike123]

Liam Jones...

 

[mike123]

Clearly Derek likes his big bodied private school boys.

I think that's the Rendell influence.

 

[Nightowl]

Ha ha. Sorry.
Was the only indigenous ranga I could think of..
Let him keep taking Carlton's money. LOL.

 

[Somebody]

Clearly not the same feeling as getting top 10 picks - ie pretty underwhelming. But you never know how they'll turn out, esp looking at Hine's record with lower picks and/or the club's record with developing them.

 

[Somebody]

And do you know what is even more sad? He doesn't know what he did wrong

Why don't you explain it to me?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Why don't you explain it to me?

It wouldn't help, you wouldn't even get close to understanding it

 

[Crazy Tails]

Yeah clearly we will know in 3-5 years time.

It's funny I am still a bit underwhelmed by Sier at 32 (due to lack of knowledge about him) but rapt with Phillips and Crocker at 50 plus. Most had Phillips and Crocker in their top 40s.

If you flipped the Crocker and Sier picks around I'd be rapt so to get the same group of players I suppose I'm still happy.

Golds and either Kerbatieh or Callum Moore in the rookie and I'm even happier.

 

[jmac70]

Why don't you explain it to me?

You're the one who should be explaining. You questioned the Indigenous identity of a group of footballers by saying they are half white. Unless you can explain why you said that then sadly you are a racist.

 

[Somebody]

It wouldn't help, you wouldn't even get close to understanding it

No, you can't explain it, you don't even know!

 

[Somebody]

You're the one who should be explaining. You questioned the Indigenous identity of a group of footballers by saying they are half white. Unless you can explain why you said that then sadly you are a racist.

Why is "indigenous identity" so important to you PC people? To me people are just people and I take them as they come. You are the ones who are racist. Also you are the ones who are offensive, what you are saying to me is extremely offensive.

the fact is that most are more than 1/2 white. do you think there's something wrong with being half indigenous and half white. If not then why is it offensive? that means you are insulting people of mixed blood.
do you think people shouldnt' be allowed to say certain truths? Some truths should be hidden? YOu people are disgustingly oppressive but you dont' intimidate me so stiff cheese.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

One more to my 'ignore list'