Do you think this might be a repeat of the Griff captaincy appointment ?..... Bont can go missing big time on occasion especially with his leadership and decision making......
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Do you think this might be a repeat of the Griff captaincy appointment ?..... Bont can go missing big time on occasion especially with his leadership and decision making......
No. He definitely wants it he just needs to grow into it like Cotchin. At least he's not as far back as Cotch was (who in 2016 was the single worst captain in the league).Do you think this might be a repeat of the Griff captaincy appointment ?
Without the detail, my thoughts, too.No. He definitely wants it he just needs to grow into it like Cotchin. At least he's not as far back as Cotch was (who in 2016 was the single worst captain in the league).
Do you think this might be a repeat of the Griff captaincy appointment ?
To be fair neither did Griffen.Bont doesn’t give me the deserter ‘I’m off pig shooter, so you can’t contact me when you need to work out a trade’ vibe.
We missed endeavour and guts and determination. That is what we missed. we were given a lesson on pressure footy. we have to learn from that. if we do, we must thank Richmond. I am sure Bevo will be making this as a big issue this week.Dunkley for mine, the way the best midfield in the competition went missing in the 2nd half, particularly the 3rd quarter, didn't win 1 takeaway from a centre bounce. That's far more disturbing than the loss.
I know I shouldn't be but I am surprised at a lot of the melt down style posts in this thread. Actually had to skip most pages as it was getting painful reading them.
Hence I will focus my post on putting some perspective on the loss, which I recognise was disappointing given it was in a hyped up prime time game against the defending champs.
Firstly, we have been up for a while and were due for an off game, whilst Richmond have been up and down so far in 2021 and really needed a win to keep up with the rest of ladder leaders. The stakes were a lot higher for them and it showed.
Whilst the media talked up Richmond's outs, I would argue we were actually more impacted by injury losses than they were. We have had 5 changes two weeks in a row with an already young and relatively inexperienced side. The absence of key players like Dunkley, English and Williams also has a larger impact on our side than most media pundits would realise. This was only Schache's third AFL game since the 2019 elimination final, and coming back from long term injury he has to fit into a complicated three tall structure (and play back up ruck), along side Hannan (1st game for the club) and West 1st game for the year (only 8th overall). It shouldn't be too surprising that our forward line didn't function as well it had in preceding games.
Which brings me to another issue I have with a lot of the posts in the thread criticising our defence and Zaine Cordy in particular. What the hell is up with that? Lynch scored 2 goals on Cordy and 1 on Keath. Naughton scored 3 too, but I doubt anyone is screaming for any defender heads on the Tiger's forum. Our defence was not where we lost this game. In fact they were largely responsible for us leading early by keeping Richmond to such a low 1st half score. With the amount of supply coming in, they had their hands full and battled away to keep Richmond to 77 points. Bev was right on the money with his press conference comments!
Richmond obviously did their homework this week, they came with a plan and stifled the midfield dominance that we had displayed in our previous matches. They were also very physical, contesting every pass and driving us into the ground at every opportunity, seemingly treating it like a final. It got them the desired result. Many of our less experienced players started anticipating the inevitable contact and stopped playing in the manner that had been working so well for us.
So looking on the bright side, despite having an off night with many players down on their normal/expected form, we still led early and were in the contest up until about 10 minutes to go. This suggests our structure and game plan is very solid and likely to be effective at the business end of the season if we have a reasonably settled side then.
We go away lick our wounds, learn our lessons and hopefully turn the tables next time.
As it says on the front cover of the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, "Don't Panic".
Go Dogs!
Lynch should have kicked a hell of a lot more though.I know I shouldn't be but I am surprised at a lot of the melt down style posts in this thread. Actually had to skip most pages as it was getting painful reading them.
Hence I will focus my post on putting some perspective on the loss, which I recognise was disappointing given it was in a hyped up prime time game against the defending champs.
Firstly, we have been up for a while and were due for an off game, whilst Richmond have been up and down so far in 2021 and really needed a win to keep up with the rest of ladder leaders. The stakes were a lot higher for them and it showed.
Whilst the media talked up Richmond's outs, I would argue we were actually more impacted by injury losses than they were. We have had 5 changes two weeks in a row with an already young and relatively inexperienced side. The absence of key players like Dunkley, English and Williams also has a larger impact on our side than most media pundits would realise. This was only Schache's third AFL game since the 2019 elimination final, and coming back from long term injury he has to fit into a complicated three tall structure (and play back up ruck), along side Hannan (1st game for the club) and West 1st game for the year (only 8th overall). It shouldn't be too surprising that our forward line didn't function as well it had in preceding games.
Which brings me to another issue I have with a lot of the posts in the thread criticising our defence and Zaine Cordy in particular. What the hell is up with that? Lynch scored 2 goals on Cordy and 1 on Keath. Naughton scored 3 too, but I doubt anyone is screaming for any defender heads on the Tiger's forum. Our defence was not where we lost this game. In fact they were largely responsible for us leading early by keeping Richmond to such a low 1st half score. With the amount of supply coming in, they had their hands full and battled away to keep Richmond to 77 points. Bev was right on the money with his press conference comments!
Richmond obviously did their homework this week, they came with a plan and stifled the midfield dominance that we had displayed in our previous matches. They were also very physical, contesting every pass and driving us into the ground at every opportunity, seemingly treating it like a final. It got them the desired result. Many of our less experienced players started anticipating the inevitable contact and stopped playing in the manner that had been working so well for us.
So looking on the bright side, despite having an off night with many players down on their normal/expected form, we still led early and were in the contest up until about 10 minutes to go. This suggests our structure and game plan is very solid and likely to be effective at the business end of the season if we have a reasonably settled side then.
We go away lick our wounds, learn our lessons and hopefully turn the tables next time.
As it says on the front cover of the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, "Don't Panic".
Go Dogs!
Gee I’ve got to disagree there. I thought he was horrendous defensively and didn’t add the same offensive output that he did in 2020. The Houli goal in the last was some of the worst defending you’ll ever seeWill say I've given him plenty on here but Caleb was finally back to his best.
Still a would like a plan b if he's being tagged.
I’ll give you Vlaustuin and Lambert. Prestia lol.
Fletcher Roberts and Jacob Townsend are also premiership players.
I see what you're saying Snake. But I've long since given up on Daniel giving us too much defensively.Gee I’ve got to disagree there. I thought he was horrendous defensively and didn’t add the same offensive output that he did in 2020. The Houli goal in the last was some of the worst defending you’ll ever see
You should probably tread carefully in here instead of being an arrogant toolPrestia's a gun! I'll have to go look up Fletcher Roberts. Yeh Towno, fair point....
Nobody cares bro.Prestia's a gun! I'll have to go look up Fletcher Roberts. Yeh Towno, fair point....
Prestia certainly is a gun, as is Dusty (obviously) and Vlaustin.Prestia's a gun! I'll have to go look up Fletcher Roberts. Yeh Towno, fair point....
I know I shouldn't be but I am surprised at a lot of the melt down style posts in this thread. Actually had to skip most pages as it was getting painful reading them.
Hence I will focus my post on putting some perspective on the loss, which I recognise was disappointing given it was in a hyped up prime time game against the defending champs.
Firstly, we have been up for a while and were due for an off game, whilst Richmond have been up and down so far in 2021 and really needed a win to keep up with the rest of ladder leaders. The stakes were a lot higher for them and it showed.
Whilst the media talked up Richmond's outs, I would argue we were actually more impacted by injury losses than they were. We have had 5 changes two weeks in a row with an already young and relatively inexperienced side. The absence of key players like Dunkley, English and Williams also has a larger impact on our side than most media pundits would realise. This was only Schache's third AFL game since the 2019 elimination final, and coming back from long term injury he has to fit into a complicated three tall structure (and play back up ruck), along side Hannan (1st game for the club) and West 1st game for the year (only 8th overall). It shouldn't be too surprising that our forward line didn't function as well it had in preceding games.
Which brings me to another issue I have with a lot of the posts in the thread criticising our defence and Zaine Cordy in particular. What the hell is up with that? Lynch scored 2 goals on Cordy and 1 on Keath. Naughton scored 3 too, but I doubt anyone is screaming for any defender heads on the Tiger's forum. Our defence was not where we lost this game. In fact they were largely responsible for us leading early by keeping Richmond to such a low 1st half score. With the amount of supply coming in, they had their hands full and battled away to keep Richmond to 77 points. Bev was right on the money with his press conference comments!
Richmond obviously did their homework this week, they came with a plan and stifled the midfield dominance that we had displayed in our previous matches. They were also very physical, contesting every pass and driving us into the ground at every opportunity, seemingly treating it like a final. It got them the desired result. Many of our less experienced players started anticipating the inevitable contact and stopped playing in the manner that had been working so well for us.
So looking on the bright side, despite having an off night with many players down on their normal/expected form, we still led early and were in the contest up until about 10 minutes to go. This suggests our structure and game plan is very solid and likely to be effective at the business end of the season if we have a reasonably settled side then.
We go away lick our wounds, learn our lessons and hopefully turn the tables next time.
As it says on the front cover of the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, "Don't Panic".
Go Dogs!
Yes, clearly there shouldn’t be any overreactions to the loss.Last night reminds me of our Hawks game early in ‘16 where Bob did his knee. We were on a roll, considered contenders, coming against the reigning 3-peat champs. We lost that game too but we learned from it & got the job done come finals time. I haven’t written us off.
The real worry is we set ourselves for this game and they had their best player out and a B grade midfield. Our best player was out there hitting their defenders on the left tit and our midfield was one player off full strength.We lost a game by 22 points with a few players out and a few playing well below par.
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I wouldnt read too much into it at this stage.
I'm not saying panic but we needed to win that.
We needed to win that because we were the better side regardless of ladder position.Arguably Richmond needed the win more than we did and that was evident from the onset with their attitude & aggression towards the ball and shutting down our corridor.