Opinion Dom Sheed

[lmach]

I'm actually annoyed everybody is suddenly agreeing with me.

**** yall. You all threw me over the coals when I suggested Mr Larke Medalist was a wasted pick, and called for everybody to stop calling him Shred.

Now get a load of the band wagoners.

Shred will be a star.

 

[lyall]

Looked like he was being used to tag at some points last night, seemed to have more interest in where his man was than the ball at times. Which is pretty ****ing concerning, should be keen as mustard for a kick. May be being told a million things by the coaches, who knows.

But there were a couple of times he was stood by himself behind Naita in the centre square and not once did he try to tap it to him which is concerning

Play him for the rest of the year to get up to speed and get him god damn hungry

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Shred will be a star.

Like your mates Masten and Smith eh Lmach?

 

[lmach]

Like your mates Masten and Smith eh Lmach?

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[The Dodger]

Hi guys,

Read alot, don't post often but I feel like putting in my two bobs here.

I too was disappointed in Sheed last night, but I don't think his lack of possessions was because he is soft (unlike Smith). He actually hesitated every time he went near the ball and looked around, whether it was for a receive, hard ball get or tackle. It was like he was unsure, either of the game plan or of getting in other players way. When he got the ball (particularly before the rain started) he actually did a few good things, and didn't seem overly rushed.

I know personally that when playing and progressing to higher grades etc I was always very conscious of getting in the way of team mates or doing something wrong as opposed to having a crack. This obviously diminishes as you become comfortable with team mates and game plans.

Would be great to have a draft pick come in and grab the game by the scruff of the neck though!!

Yep thats my take as well. He is not being given clear guidelines and is not confident in approaching the contest. I refuse to believe kids we pick up are that bad...ok he might not turn out to be a pick 11 but he should be able to go in and get the footy if that is how he cut his teeth.

 

[The Dodger]

Clearly lacking confidence. Would play him for the rest of the year to get him used to the game plan. Not every player can come in and dominate.

But ewe wont. He will get a bad rap because of that game the club wont help him with his confidence issues other than to say "go back to East Perth and find the footy" only to do so and come back in as sub for the last game of the year despite finals being out of the equation and we should be telling him to go hell for leather to see what he has inside him.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

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Likewise my friend..

 

[Galileo9]

Not everyone lives in Perth.

He will live with the tag of being a part of the down grade in picks between #6 and #11. I hope for his sake that he comes on but when you look at who went at pick #6 you start to question our recruitment.

for "his sake"? because its HIS fault? he still went pick 11, AFTER all these others. what eagles did even BEFORE he got drafted is not really his problem. at end of day he wasnt pick 6.

i love it how people think that these sorts of tags etc are OK to allocate to people and that its just peoples bad luck as though its some universal law. ease up bro.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Scharenberg, Aish, Salem and Freeman.

All of whom have proven and achieved nothing for a variety of different reasons. Better question would be to ask where we rated Acres, Dunston ect in relation to Sheed and how we came to those conclusions. But that isn't easy to find out.

Yeo himself could be better than the lot of them, all of these sorts of debates are ahead of us and the writing isn't exactly on the wall.

Aish? He's a contender to win the rising star, that's how much impact he's had. Sheeds yet to receive a nomination.

Scharanberg will be a jet IMO, has all the attributes Sheed does not.

Salem has shown a bit. Had a MASSIVE impact as the sub in one game and kicked the winning clutch goal from memory.

Freeman hasn't been on the park.

 

[Smotie]

Looks slow in reading the play and to make decisions.

His football smarts were what he was highly regarded in, yet haven't seen much.

Aish or Scharenberg would have been handy in hindsight, as would Lewis Taylor at 28..

Would it matter who it is with our shit developing?
If sheed was at the bulldogs he might be performing like bontempelli.

 

[mattyc75]

i am no where near writing him off but geez he hasn't shown much so far.

 

[Masto]

i am no where near writing him off but geez he hasn't shown much so far.

He's a rookie. Plenty of rookies haven't done much so far. He'll come good but his ceiling remains questionable.

 

[mattyc75]

He's a rookie. Plenty of rookies haven't done much so far. He'll come good but his ceiling remains questionable.

yep agree ,like I said Im not writing him off but for a young fella we apparently had to have over plenty of highly touted youngsters,he isn't showing much.
I understand some rookies come on slow and some jump out of the gates.
correct me if Im wrong but wasn't the thing with him that he was ready to go straight way?
I think he will come good but the first step will be wanting to get the ball

 

[Dark Sharks]

yep agree ,like I said Im not writing him off but for a young fella we apparently had to have over plenty of highly touted youngsters,he isn't showing much.
I understand some rookies come on slow and some jump out of the gates.
correct me if Im wrong but wasn't the thing with him that he was ready to go straight way?
I think he will come good but the first step will be wanting to get the ball

Yes, all pre season the club was spruiking how he's got a big body, played alot of senior footy, ready to have an immediate impact at AFL level, etc

 

[West Coast 06]

Yes, all pre season the club was spruiking how he's got a big body, played alot of senior footy, ready to have an immediate impact at AFL level, etc

Hardly played a lot of senior footy! Played four league games in 2013, and three in 2012.

 

[Masto]

Yes, all pre season the club was spruiking how he's got a big body, played alot of senior footy, ready to have an immediate impact at AFL level, etc

That's arguable. I think you were simply reading too much into it.

So he had a bad game in the wet. So what? It happens. He looked alright against Brisbane and against Geelong earlier in the year. If anyone is writing him off after that game then they don't know much about AFL.

 

[Dark Sharks]

That's arguable. I think you were simply reading too much into it.

So he had a bad game in the wet. So what? It happens. He looked alright against Brisbane and against Geelong earlier in the year. If anyone is writing him off after that game then they don't know much about AFL.

1. That's what the club said. I took it with a grain of salt like i always do because they talk nonsense constantly
2. Who exactly is writing him off?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Yes, all pre season the club was spruiking how he's got a big body, played alot of senior footy, ready to have an immediate impact at AFL level, etc

Did they? Pretty sure all the emphasis was on how good he is in match simulation drills.

Aish? He's a contender to win the rising star, that's how much impact he's had. Sheeds yet to receive a nomination.

Scharanberg will be a jet IMO, has all the attributes Sheed does not.

Salem has shown a bit. Had a MASSIVE impact as the sub in one game and kicked the winning clutch goal from memory.

Freeman hasn't been on the park.

Aish is an outside type playing with little pressure on him, he's playing exactly to the level i'd expected of him. Get back to me when he does some heavy lifting. FWIW the rising star is worth about as much as Dom's Larke Medal in determining career success, not that he should win it given Bonts being a phenomena.

Scharanbeg is a jet? implying what exactly? he's not quick. He's a third tall defender type or marking forward with little to no credentials as a midfielder.

Salem has proven little, same boat as Aish in terms of ease of transition being outside midfielder. Has been given little taste of AFL because Roos quite sensibly doesn't rush kids in when they're not ready.

Freeman hasn't been on the park and he'll have ongoing soft tissue issues for his whole career.

 

[WereFlyingHigh4]

Wow people on here are quick to write him off. People need to cut him some slack, last nights game was disappointing from him but hes a kid and hopefully he takes a lot away from the game being able to play on the likes of Martin. He seems very much down on confidence and that'd be a result of being thrown between the WAFL and AFL as the sub with the occasional full game. Think it'd be beneficial for him if he gets the remainder of the season to play AFL to see what hes got to offer and how far off he is. While his game wasn't great last night, i think it'd damage his confidence more if we drop him and don't let him get continuity in his game. Thats what Brisbane have done with Aish and Taylor and it's payed off.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Did they? Pretty sure all the emphasis was on how good he is in match simulation drills.



Aish is an outside type playing with little pressure on him, he's playing exactly to the level i'd expected of him. Get back to me when he does some heavy lifting. FWIW the rising star is worth about as much as Dom's Larke Medal in determining career success, not that he should win it given Bonts being a phenomena.

Scharanbeg is a jet? implying what exactly? he's not quick. He's a third tall defender type or marking forward with little to no credentials as a midfielder.

Salem has proven little, same boat as Aish in terms of ease of transition being outside midfielder. Has been given little taste of AFL because Roos quite sensibly doesn't rush kids in when they're not ready.

Freeman hasn't been on the park and he'll have ongoing soft tissue issues for his whole career.

For an outside type player who's a fair bit lighter then Sheed, Aish definitely doesn't have any problems winning his own ball. He is a country mile ahead of Sheed in that regard at the moment. You're right about the rising star though, it doesn't mean a great deal, only that a player has shown "something" to impress. Sheed at the moment really hasn't shown much.

No need to misquote ER, I said he WILL be a jet, in my opinion. Not that he already is one. Has played through the midfield at SANFL level, tall, quick, agile, strong hands, the best kick in last years draft and has the potential to literally play anywhere. What's not to like? Everything we don't have in this shit team right now. Has a MASSIVE ceiling. Compared to what we went for, the safe bet, with slow leg speed, average height, minimal upside etc etc

I cant comment really on Salem, only that I've seen more from him then Sheed at the moment. That's about it.


Regardless, the pick has been made. I didn't like it from the start and I don't like it now. But I'd still play Sheed for the rest of the year, no doubt about it. A potential replacement for Priddis, and I hope he becomes something.

 

[WereFlyingHigh4]

I cant comment really on Salem, only that I've seen more from him then Sheed at the moment. That's about it.

Hasn't set the world on fire averaging 7 disposals from 10 games (A few have been the sub). Seems to be in a similar position to Sheed.

 

[Small Moves]

I guess Jack Martin hasn't really set the world on fire either. (yet?)

I'm not going to make any judgements on Sheed until I get to see him properly. I'm sure he'll come good with a bit of time and AFL experience. To be fair he has been hyped up a shit tonne on our boards since the draft, so maybe expectations are a bit high at the moment....

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Aish is at his level regarding contested work and winning his own ball. It's not the base of his game and won't ever be, that makes AFL easier to adapt to.

No need to misquote ER, I said he WILL be a jet, in my opinion. Not that he already is one. Has played through the midfield at SANFL level, tall, quick, agile, strong hands, the best kick in last years draft and has the potential to literally play anywhere. What's not to like? Everything we don't have in this shit team right now. Has a MASSIVE ceiling. Compared to what we went for, the safe bet, with slow leg speed, average height, minimal upside etc etc

Don't see it. Solid pace, can ball carry a bit given his height and stride length, doesn't have much of a defensive side to his game though. Scharenberg doesn't have midfield experience let alone at SANFL level. Not much of a ground level player either, so i don't see him transitioning there that easily. Perhaps into a more outside role.

Regardless, the pick has been made. I didn't like it from the start and I don't like it now. But I'd still play Sheed for the rest of the year, no doubt about it. A potential replacement for Priddis, and I hope he becomes something.

I hope he wasn't drafted as a Priddis replacement solely, a lot of his development should be centered on other aspects of his game. Forward work, link up work, playing outside ect... Things Priddis does poorly.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Don't see it. Solid pace, can ball carry a bit given his height and stride length, doesn't have much of a defensive side to his game though. Scharenberg doesn't have midfield experience let alone at SANFL level. Not much of a ground level player either, so i don't see him transitioning there that easily. Perhaps into a more outside role.



I hope he wasn't drafted as a Priddis replacement solely, a lot of his development should be centered on other aspects of his game. Forward work, link up work, playing outside ect... Things Priddis does poorly.

I agree with the knock on the defensive side of his game. When I say midfield, I was implying playing on a wing, which he has been known to do, not in the guts. Basically I see him as future ranging tall midfielder, bit like Goddard. Considering you've got half the people on here trying to make Darling into a midfielder, I'd have thought a general versatile all rounder like Scharanberg with all his height, agility and marking attributes would be just what the doctor ordered.

We'll see though, chances are he'll debut before the end of the year.


I'm doubtful Sheed will end up being that more versatile then Matt. Perhaps off a forward flank. But with his pace, lack of height and flare, resting in the pocket wouldn't even suit him.

 

[steve hucka]

Freeman went the pick before Sheed.

Yeah but we had pick 6 !!