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Rucci raises the possibility ...

Port opens door for Stevens to return
By MICHELANGELO RUCCI
31oct03

PORT ADELAIDE has left open its doors for resigned midfielder Nick Stevens to return to Alberton in case he fears becoming a victim of a salary cap squeeze ahead of the AFL pre-season draft.

The Power will not dismiss 23-year-old Stevens today when the deadline for AFL delistings closes.
This leaves Stevens to decide if he will formally quit the Power and nominate by December 2 for the pre-season draft on December 16 or seek a reconciliation at Alberton after quitting the club to get back to Victoria for "family reasons".

Stevens also must decide if he states on his draft form a minimum salary, say the $500,000 long attached to his name, to engineer a move to Carlton, which has the second pick in the draft behind the Western Bulldogs, a club not preferred by Stevens.

Stevens also has to be sure Carlton can pay $500,000 a season with the AFL not to confirm the Blues salary cap space before December 12 – seven days after he would lodge his form and perhaps his minimum salary.

The uncertainty is reminiscent of the calamity which froze another Power player out of the AFL – Fabian Francis, who became a salary cap victim at Fremantle two years ago.

Beyond Carlton's salary cap uncertainty, there also is the chance resigned Hawthorn forward Jade Rawlings – to avoid joining the Bulldogs – may engineer an $800,000 salary request to get him to the Kangaroos or simply return to the Hawks.

This would also make Stevens the new No. 1 target of the Bulldogs – a scenario lacking appeal to the 127-game midfielder.

Having failed to get his trade to Collingwood, Stevens this afternoon will face two options – quit Port and hope to avoid the Francis curse in the pre-season draft or seek a new deal at Alberton and try another escape next year.

Port yesterday was adamant Stevens would remain on its list today, despite the 1997 draftee quitting the club shortly after the Power's preliminary final loss to Collingwood. "We will not delist him," said Port football operations manager Mick Moylan. "Nick has to decide if he wants to take his name off our list and work through the issues of the pre-season draft."

Those issues will become the focus of AFL investigations officer Ken Wood, who is preparing notices to all 16 AFL clubs advising he will take greater note of moves leading up to the December 16 draft.

Wood's concern is for any "conduct prejudicial to the draft".

Of greatest interest in this count is Rawlings and Stevens and how they declare their minimum salaries.

AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou has reiterated if Rawlings puts an $800,000 salary demand he must be paid that amount in full in his first season at his new club and the contract cannot be rewritten midway through the season.

Any club which drafts Rawlings and Stevens and fails to pay the demanded salary faces penalities, including erosion of its salary cap in 2005. Port will declare Stephen Paxman, Adam Kingsley, Che Cockatoo-Collins and Paul Koulouriotis as delisted and Adam Morgan (Western Bulldogs) and Brent Guerra (St Kilda) as traded.
 

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The uncertainty is reminiscent of the calamity which froze another Power player out of the AFL – Fabian Francis, who became a salary cap victim at Fremantle two years ago.
I'm surprised Rucci didn't give the knife a little extra twist by pointing out Max Stevens was also Fabian's manager ....
 

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He's got 12, and he's wondering whether to call for another card...safest thing to do would be name a bit less than Carlton's offer and take the pressure off.

Then again, he could go against the odds and try for a 21 - Collingwood. But he might go bust with Werribee. Hell of a gamble. But either way, its only one year of his life that might be difficult.
 
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From the Power site

http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=125756



Kingsley a chance for 2004
10:15:31 AM Fri 31 October, 2003

The Port Adelaide Football Club lodged its first list for the 2004 season with the AFL on Friday and it included both Adam Kingsley and Nick Stevens. Stevens has indicated he will nominate for the Pre-Season Draft however Kingsley could earn a new contract with the club.

Power footy manager Mick Moylan said there was a chance for Kingsley, the club’s 1998 Best and Fairest winner, to continue his seven-year career with the Power.

“We have spoken with Adam and said we’re going to look at re-contracting him for the coming season,” Moylan said.

“Adam has met with (senior coach) Mark Williams and (fitness coach) Andrew Russell and they have agreed to assess his situation prior to the 2nd list lodgement on 14th November. If everything is going well we expect him to still be on our list at that time.”

Moylan said Wade Champion, the Power’s third selection (57th overall) in the National Draft last year, is in a similar situation to Kingsley. The strongly built 18-year-old forward suffered chronic hamstring trouble during his first AFL season in 2003 and will be looking to earn a new contract over the coming weeks.

Nick Stevens, who expressed his desire to return home to Melbourne to play next year, will remain on the Power list unless he takes himself off it by nominating for the Pre-Season Draft by Tuesday 2 December.

“Nick has said he wants to play in Melbourne next year and we’re expecting him to nominate for the Pre-Season Draft in December,” Moylan said.
Hamstring brought on from year before,

The players no longer on the Power list are Stephen Paxman, Che Cockatoo-Collins, and Paul Koulouriotis, along with Brent Guerra and Adam Morgan who joined St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs respectively during the recent trade period.

The Power announced the likely futures of those players last month and re-iterates its thanks for their services.

There was also some news with the Power’s two rookie listed players in 2003, Scott Borlace and Joel Patfull.

“Joel will continue as a rookie-listed player next year. He is a young, talented forward and we see a future for him at Port Adelaide,” Moylan said. “We’ve decided to let Scott go and pursue opportunities elsewhere which is the best thing for both parties.”

The Power will submit its list for a second and third time on Friday 14 November and Friday 5 December.

The National AFL Draft is on Saturday 22 November and the Pre-Season Draft is on Tuesday 16 December, as is the Rookie Draft.
 

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On Stevens - If he decides to stay then i cant see many Port fans welcoming him with open arms. I for one certainly will not.

On Kingsley - *Lets out a long, loud, very distressed groan*
 

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If we absolutely, positively had to have one of them (AK or NS) with the Power next year, which would you choose? And why?

Ah, what a depressing question.
 
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Originally posted by Sandola
If we absolutely, positively had to have one of them (AK or NS) with the Power next year, which would you choose? And why?

Ah, what a depressing question.
Stop it, you're making my head hurt. :(

If either of them come back I'll start a riot.
 

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Nick wouldn't change his mind about quitting, surely?

He couldn't possibly, not only will he get a less than healthy reception from us supporters, but his former teammates as well. Makes his decision to quit seem very stupid indeed...

Can't see it happening, but will cause a bit of chaos if it does...
 
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Actually I am starting to feel a little sorry for Nicky. He has been jilted by the team he loves twice.

It is simple he should not have quit until the deal was signed sealed delivered.
 

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I can't see this as anything more than a bit of posturing by Port. Playing Nick Stevens would have a disastrous effect on the club. What may be the advantage in keeping him on the list? I know that it means that he will be unable to nominate for the November draft and will have to go into the pre-season if he wants to move, but wasn't that going to happen anyway?
 

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Originally posted by mic59
I can't see this as anything more than a bit of posturing by Port. Playing Nick Stevens would have a disastrous effect on the club. What may be the advantage in keeping him on the list? I know that it means that he will be unable to nominate for the November draft and will have to go into the pre-season if he wants to move, but wasn't that going to happen anyway?
If we allowed Nick to go into the draft in November then there's a much greater chance he could end up at Collingwood - or at least a serious flag contender. The lower ranked clubs would still grab the best half to a dozen youngsters most likely, but after that the chance of grabbing a player like Nick vs. a player 7 - 20 in the list of youngsters would be a 50-50 proposition for many clubs.
 

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Ah. Good move. And there would be plenty of teams would have to pass on selecting Nick. As you said, the early picks would be used on young talent. And then the teams may not have the cap space topick up Nick, certainly Hawthorn, St Kilda and Essendon would have problems. And Adelaide would pass on him knowing he wants to leave. There would even be a chance he could still be available when Collingwoods pick comes around.
 
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stevens

look the other night the port adelaide lawyer was at my house he is a friend of milan fletik who played for port adelade so are we.

i was talkng to him about stevens as im a carlton supporter he said no way that port want him back and he looks certain to go to the blues.

this is very true
 

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Originally posted by Andre
If we allowed Nick to go into the draft in November then there's a much greater chance he could end up at Collingwood - or at least a serious flag contender. The lower ranked clubs would still grab the best half to a dozen youngsters most likely, but after that the chance of grabbing a player like Nick vs. a player 7 - 20 in the list of youngsters would be a 50-50 proposition for many clubs.
If he were to go in the November draft, does his nominated price have to be paid?
 

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Nope the club will pay him as little as they want, which is why he wouldn't have to nominate for the November draft.

That Rucci idiot has no idea...he said in the Herald Sun that McKay would play next year because he was on the list...

The Advertiser should get a decent journo on board, not some half-baked dimwit who just writes feel-good stories.
 

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Originally posted by BluesPrez
That Rucci idiot has no idea...he said in the Herald Sun that McKay would play next year because he was on the list...

The Advertiser should get a decent journo on board, not some half-baked dimwit who just writes feel-good stories.
You are telling us something we already know!

Rucci's journalism ability is one of the few things that Crows & Power supporters agree on. ;)
 
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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
You are telling us something we already know!

Rucci's journalism ability is one of the few things that Crows & Power supporters agree on. ;)
Now come on peoples Crows and Power agreeing, Has hell frozen over?

Actually I am glad other people think the same of him, I thought it was just me.

But lets look on the bright side, his articles are good for a laugh.
 
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