Dont draft Injured....

[scottydeewah]

CLUB by club AFL injury list.
ADELAIDE
Brett Burton (hamstring) to be confirmed
Ben Hart (hamstring) to be confirmed
Chris Knights (quad) test
Andrew McLeod (foot) 1 week
Bernie Vince (knee) 2 weeks
Luke Jericho (shoulder) season

BRISBANE LIONS
Mitch Clark (groin) season
Chris Johnson (groin) 1-2 weeks
Ash McGrath (hamstring) 1 week
Richard Hadley (knee) season
Jonathan Brown (hip) indefinite
Anthony Corrie (knee) season
Jamie Charman (shoulder) season
Chris Scott (hip) season
Justin Leppitsch (calf) season
Joel Macdonald (knee) season
Pat Garner (knee) season
Josh Drummond (hamstring) 1 week
Beau McDonald (knee) indefinite
Nigel Lappin (ankle) season

CARLTON
Troy Longmuir (shoulder) 3 weeks
Ian Prendergast (knee) 4 weeks
Josh Kennedy (partially collapsed lung) season
Justin Davies (back) season
Marc Murphy (shoulder) season
Jason Saddington (knee) season

COLLINGWOOD
Leon Davis (ankle) season
Dale Thomas (collarbone) 3-4 weeks

ESSENDON
Dean Rioli (knee) test
Richard Cole (concussion) test
Andrew Lovett (hand) to be assessed
Patrick Ryder (ankle) 2-3 weeks
Jason Winderlich (leg) 2 weeks
Henry Slattery (quad) season
Jason Laycock (shoulder) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season

FREMANTLE
Marcus Drum (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Robert Haddrill (knee) season
Daniel Haines (Achilles) season

GEELONG
Gary Ablett (shoulder) 1-2 weeks
Travis Varcoe (quad) 1 week

HAWTHORN
Tim Clarke (foot) test
Joel Smith (hamstring) test
Peter Everitt (ankle) season
Danny Jacobs (hamstring) season
Michael Osborne (foot) season
Luke Brennan (knee) season

KANGAROOS
Tim Hutchison (groin) season
Jesse Smith (ankle) season
Blake Grima (hamstring) 3 weeks
Cameron Thurley (shoulder) TBA

MELBOURNE
Russell Robertson (shoulder) test
Travis Johnstone (hamstring) test
Aaron Davey (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Byron Pickett (hamstring) 2-3 weeks
Brent Moloney (groin) test
Paul Johnson (shoulder) season

PORT ADELAIDE
Dean Brogan (ankle) test
Peter Burgoyne (hamstring) season
Fabian Deluca (broken hand) test
Josh Francou (knee) ongoing assessment
Adam Kingsley (calf) test
Daniel Motlop (shoulder) season
Steven Salopek (shoulder) test
Warren Tredrea (knee) season

RICHMOND
Darren Gaspar (knee) season
Nathan Brown (hamstring) 1 weeks
Andrew Kellaway (hamstring) 2 weeks
Danny Meyer (foot) season
Will Thursfield (knee) season
Mark Coughlan (knee) season
Chris Newman (broken leg) season
Brent Hartigan (foot) 3 weeks
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (fractured clavicle) season

ST KILDA
Xavier Clarke (hip) test
Aaron Hamill (knee) 1 week
Lenny Hayes (knee) season
Justin Koschitzke (head) review
Matt Maguire (broken leg) season
Troy Schwarze (hamstring) review

SYDNEY
Ben Mathews (calf) test
Amon Buchanan (shoulder) test
Jarred Moore (thumb) season

WEST COAST
Brad Smith (knee) season
Damien Adkins (leg) season
Mark Nicoski (ankle) 3 weeks
Adam Hunter (knee) 3 weeks
Matthew Spangher (groin) 2 weeks
Dean Cox (fractured collarbone) test

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Luke Darcy (knee) season
Robert Murphy (knee) season
Tim Walsh (knee) season
Adam Morgan (knee) season
Mitch Hahn (knee) season
Tom Williams (ankle) season
Shaun Higgins (elbow) 2-4 weeks
Brett Montgomery (calf) 2-3 weeks
Daniel Giansiracusa (hamstring) 1 week




There are even more than this and there have been more thoughout the season. We dont need a player with a history of injuries, operations or who has ****ed themselves during the year. Lets get a nice strong bodied young man who can come out and have a good crack their first pre-season. Noted you cannot predict these things but lets not start off behing the 8 ball.

 

[DanA]

CLUB by club AFL injury list.
ADELAIDE
Brett Burton (hamstring) to be confirmed
Ben Hart (hamstring) to be confirmed
Chris Knights (quad) test
Andrew McLeod (foot) 1 week
Bernie Vince (knee) 2 weeks
Luke Jericho (shoulder) season

BRISBANE LIONS
Mitch Clark (groin) season
Chris Johnson (groin) 1-2 weeks
Ash McGrath (hamstring) 1 week
Richard Hadley (knee) season
Jonathan Brown (hip) indefinite
Anthony Corrie (knee) season
Jamie Charman (shoulder) season
Chris Scott (hip) season
Justin Leppitsch (calf) season
Joel Macdonald (knee) season
Pat Garner (knee) season
Josh Drummond (hamstring) 1 week
Beau McDonald (knee) indefinite
Nigel Lappin (ankle) season

CARLTON
Troy Longmuir (shoulder) 3 weeks
Ian Prendergast (knee) 4 weeks
Josh Kennedy (partially collapsed lung) season
Justin Davies (back) season
Marc Murphy (shoulder) season
Jason Saddington (knee) season

COLLINGWOOD
Leon Davis (ankle) season
Dale Thomas (collarbone) 3-4 weeks

ESSENDON
Dean Rioli (knee) test
Richard Cole (concussion) test
Andrew Lovett (hand) to be assessed
Patrick Ryder (ankle) 2-3 weeks
Jason Winderlich (leg) 2 weeks
Henry Slattery (quad) season
Jason Laycock (shoulder) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season

FREMANTLE
Marcus Drum (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Robert Haddrill (knee) season
Daniel Haines (Achilles) season

GEELONG
Gary Ablett (shoulder) 1-2 weeks
Travis Varcoe (quad) 1 week

HAWTHORN
Tim Clarke (foot) test
Joel Smith (hamstring) test
Peter Everitt (ankle) season
Danny Jacobs (hamstring) season
Michael Osborne (foot) season
Luke Brennan (knee) season

KANGAROOS
Tim Hutchison (groin) season
Jesse Smith (ankle) season
Blake Grima (hamstring) 3 weeks
Cameron Thurley (shoulder) TBA

MELBOURNE
Russell Robertson (shoulder) test
Travis Johnstone (hamstring) test
Aaron Davey (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Byron Pickett (hamstring) 2-3 weeks
Brent Moloney (groin) test
Paul Johnson (shoulder) season

PORT ADELAIDE
Dean Brogan (ankle) test
Peter Burgoyne (hamstring) season
Fabian Deluca (broken hand) test
Josh Francou (knee) ongoing assessment
Adam Kingsley (calf) test
Daniel Motlop (shoulder) season
Steven Salopek (shoulder) test
Warren Tredrea (knee) season

RICHMOND
Darren Gaspar (knee) season
Nathan Brown (hamstring) 1 weeks
Andrew Kellaway (hamstring) 2 weeks
Danny Meyer (foot) season
Will Thursfield (knee) season
Mark Coughlan (knee) season
Chris Newman (broken leg) season
Brent Hartigan (foot) 3 weeks
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (fractured clavicle) season

ST KILDA
Xavier Clarke (hip) test
Aaron Hamill (knee) 1 week
Lenny Hayes (knee) season
Justin Koschitzke (head) review
Matt Maguire (broken leg) season
Troy Schwarze (hamstring) review

SYDNEY
Ben Mathews (calf) test
Amon Buchanan (shoulder) test
Jarred Moore (thumb) season

WEST COAST
Brad Smith (knee) season
Damien Adkins (leg) season
Mark Nicoski (ankle) 3 weeks
Adam Hunter (knee) 3 weeks
Matthew Spangher (groin) 2 weeks
Dean Cox (fractured collarbone) test

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Luke Darcy (knee) season
Robert Murphy (knee) season
Tim Walsh (knee) season
Adam Morgan (knee) season
Mitch Hahn (knee) season
Tom Williams (ankle) season
Shaun Higgins (elbow) 2-4 weeks
Brett Montgomery (calf) 2-3 weeks
Daniel Giansiracusa (hamstring) 1 week




There are even more than this and there have been more thoughout the season. We dont need a player with a history of injuries, operations or who has ****ed themselves during the year. Lets get a nice strong bodied young man who can come out and have a good crack their first pre-season. Noted you cannot predict these things but lets not start off behing the 8 ball.

So you wouldn't have drafted Judd then?

Teams already weight injuries pretty heavily against a player. Munston would have been top 3 if he didn't do his knee, instead he went second round I think. Judd would have been no.1 if he didn't have shoulder problems. Varcoe would have gone much earlier. If the risk reward ratio is right, I think injured players should be considered.

 

[scottydeewah]

Stop using ****ing Judd as a rule to stuff, he is a BIG exception to every ****ing rule in the AFL. I nearly wrote in my post not to bring him up because it isnt a valid point.

Why bring up Vercoe? He has spent most of his time being injured this year. Munston, again what has this kid proven, jack ****ing squat.

 

[DanA]

Stop using ****ing Judd as a rule to stuff, he is a BIG exception to every ****ing rule in the AFL. I nearly wrote in my post not to bring him up because it isnt a valid point.

Why bring up Vercoe? He has spent most of his time being injured this year. Munston, again what has this kid proven, jack ****ing squat.

I was showing how much an injury can effect where you are drafted when choosing Munston and Varcoe. Judd was an example of when it has paid off in spades. There are plenty of other examples of injured players I could use.

Your comment is stupid. You can't make a blanket statement like and not expect a response. What if Tom Hawkins breaks his leg and is out for 3 months. Should we not pick him up? Like I said if the risk reward ratio is right, Geelong would be stupid not to go for it.

 

[Jack-Packenham]

Muston on Munston ????

 

[TheTimeCometh]

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottydeewah
CLUB by club AFL injury list.
ADELAIDE
Brett Burton (hamstring) to be confirmed
Ben Hart (hamstring) to be confirmed
Chris Knights (quad) test
Andrew McLeod (foot) 1 week
Bernie Vince (knee) 2 weeks
Luke Jericho (shoulder) season

BRISBANE LIONS
Mitch Clark (groin) season
Chris Johnson (groin) 1-2 weeks
Ash McGrath (hamstring) 1 week
Richard Hadley (knee) season
Jonathan Brown (hip) indefinite
Anthony Corrie (knee) season
Jamie Charman (shoulder) season
Chris Scott (hip) season
Justin Leppitsch (calf) season
Joel Macdonald (knee) season
Pat Garner (knee) season
Josh Drummond (hamstring) 1 week
Beau McDonald (knee) indefinite
Nigel Lappin (ankle) season

CARLTON
Troy Longmuir (shoulder) 3 weeks
Ian Prendergast (knee) 4 weeks
Josh Kennedy (partially collapsed lung) season
Justin Davies (back) season
Marc Murphy (shoulder) season
Jason Saddington (knee) season

COLLINGWOOD
Leon Davis (ankle) season
Dale Thomas (collarbone) 3-4 weeks

ESSENDON
Dean Rioli (knee) test
Richard Cole (concussion) test
Andrew Lovett (hand) to be assessed
Patrick Ryder (ankle) 2-3 weeks
Jason Winderlich (leg) 2 weeks
Henry Slattery (quad) season
Jason Laycock (shoulder) season
Aaron Henneman (shoulder) season
Matthew Lloyd (hamstring) season

FREMANTLE
Marcus Drum (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Robert Haddrill (knee) season
Daniel Haines (Achilles) season

GEELONG
Gary Ablett (shoulder) 1-2 weeks
Travis Varcoe (quad) 1 week

HAWTHORN
Tim Clarke (foot) test
Joel Smith (hamstring) test
Peter Everitt (ankle) season
Danny Jacobs (hamstring) season
Michael Osborne (foot) season
Luke Brennan (knee) season

KANGAROOS
Tim Hutchison (groin) season
Jesse Smith (ankle) season
Blake Grima (hamstring) 3 weeks
Cameron Thurley (shoulder) TBA

MELBOURNE
Russell Robertson (shoulder) test
Travis Johnstone (hamstring) test
Aaron Davey (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
Byron Pickett (hamstring) 2-3 weeks
Brent Moloney (groin) test
Paul Johnson (shoulder) season

PORT ADELAIDE
Dean Brogan (ankle) test
Peter Burgoyne (hamstring) season
Fabian Deluca (broken hand) test
Josh Francou (knee) ongoing assessment
Adam Kingsley (calf) test
Daniel Motlop (shoulder) season
Steven Salopek (shoulder) test
Warren Tredrea (knee) season

RICHMOND
Darren Gaspar (knee) season
Nathan Brown (hamstring) 1 weeks
Andrew Kellaway (hamstring) 2 weeks
Danny Meyer (foot) season
Will Thursfield (knee) season
Mark Coughlan (knee) season
Chris Newman (broken leg) season
Brent Hartigan (foot) 3 weeks
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (fractured clavicle) season

ST KILDA
Xavier Clarke (hip) test
Aaron Hamill (knee) 1 week
Lenny Hayes (knee) season
Justin Koschitzke (head) review
Matt Maguire (broken leg) season
Troy Schwarze (hamstring) review

SYDNEY
Ben Mathews (calf) test
Amon Buchanan (shoulder) test
Jarred Moore (thumb) season

WEST COAST
Brad Smith (knee) season
Damien Adkins (leg) season
Mark Nicoski (ankle) 3 weeks
Adam Hunter (knee) 3 weeks
Matthew Spangher (groin) 2 weeks
Dean Cox (fractured collarbone) test

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Luke Darcy (knee) season
Robert Murphy (knee) season
Tim Walsh (knee) season
Adam Morgan (knee) season
Mitch Hahn (knee) season
Tom Williams (ankle) season
Shaun Higgins (elbow) 2-4 weeks
Brett Montgomery (calf) 2-3 weeks
Daniel Giansiracusa (hamstring) 1 week




There are even more than this and there have been more thoughout the season. We dont need a player with a history of injuries, operations or who has ****ed themselves during the year. Lets get a nice strong bodied young man who can come out and have a good crack their first pre-season. Noted you cannot predict these things but lets not start off behing the 8 ball.

So you wouldn't have drafted Judd then?

Teams already weight injuries pretty heavily against a player. Munston would have been top 3 if he didn't do his knee, instead he went second round I think. Judd would have been no.1 if he didn't have shoulder problems. Varcoe would have gone much earlier. If the risk reward ratio is right, I think injured players should be considered.

dont bee readickulos!

 

[scottydeewah]

Okay maybe for our third round pick (not this year) or fourth yes. But for pick 6-8 which is what we will have, why? Lets get a kid who can put in a full preseason and hit next year running rather than one that is having surgery and battling all year to be fit.

There are plenty of other examples of injured players I could use.

Well do it then. Dont just talk about it.

What if Tom Hawkins breaks his leg and is out for 3 months. Should we not pick him up?

No because we only need to give up a third rounder. But why would we do it with a first or second rounder?