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EVERYONE in the Victorian media seems to be taking aim at the Sydney club and supporters for the abysmal crowd Saturday night, and I know that's partly fair enough.
But did anyone read in today's Herald Sun Pulse section, that Ricky Ponting, North's No 1 ticketholder, texted Glenn Archer before the game from his home IN SYDNEY to say it was too cold and wet and he'd be staying home to watch the game on TV.

FANTASTIC advertisement for the commitment of North fans in general, when their highest-profile fan, a bloke used as a spearhead in the club's campaign to stay in Melbourne 12 months ago, can't be fcked to make it to his team's elimination final, even when it's being played in his home city. Goodd on you, Ricky, that's showing your colours.

(I just had to highlight this because, 48 hours after the event, I'm now sick of the slagging we've copped about the crowd and I want Demetriou's fat head on a stake in the main shopping centre in Blacktown, so all the AFL haters there have someone to direct their bile at.)
 

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Tell me about it mate, its been fcking unbelievable. In Bay 13 the heat has been on the Swans so much, and it's so unnecessary. North drew 300 supporters, we drew about 18,700. I don't know that as a percentage, but that's a hell of a lot of the crowd. If North had drawn half as many as we did, the crowd would have been up around 30k which is far more respectable. If the AFL had gone all out advertising the game like it did for our '05 and '06 campaigns because of our success we might have drawn about 35k. Sure, the weather and our results would have turned a lot off, but 35k is a hell of a lot better than what we got.
 

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I wouldn't blame North at all - nor would I blame the type of Sydney supporters who post on here. It's simply a fact of life for the Swans that to draw more than 20-25k we need media saturation. Otherwise we don't draw the 15k+ 'casuals' that might attend 2-4 games a year. Our supporter base isn't huge, and most of the core fans were there on Saturday night, in terrible conditions.

It was a disappointing turnout, but we won - so I couldn't care less atm :)
 
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I think you can rightly blame the opposition when only 300 of their supporters turn up.
No interstate club was going to bring over 10,000 fans to the game on Saturday Night, regardless of the location, form, timing or weather. Facts are not enough fans from the Sydney area turned up. Putting the blame at the feet at North fans because only "300" of them turned up is wrong. Yes more should of gone but so should more of our own and facts are our didn't and we didn't have to travel 1000k to attend the match.
 

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THE point I was making was that maybe the Victorian media might like to step away from its blinkered attack on the Sydney club and at least make mention of the very poor example set so publically by North's number one fan.
I'm not arguing that there should've been a lot more Sydney fans there, and if I lived near Sydney (as I once did) I'd have been there. I always enjoy watching footy at that ground.

I'm not sure who Sydney's No 1 ticketholder is, but if that person came out publically and said exactly what Ponting said, the Vic media would've spent the week mocking and lampooning that person, and building it into the ongoing condemnation of Swans fans generally because of the low crowd.

(i'm just cranky.) (Oh, and I don't like Ponting.)
 

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No interstate club was going to bring over 10,000 fans to the game on Saturday Night, regardless of the location, form, timing or weather. Facts are not enough fans from the Sydney area turned up. Putting the blame at the feet at North fans because only "300" of them turned up is wrong. Yes more should of gone but so should more of our own and facts are our didn't and we didn't have to travel 1000k to attend the match.
how many sydney based supporters do you think will make it down this week?
 

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Baird is too good a player not to be playing still at AFL level,north could do with him now.
No North trolls this week or are they all at the tunnel
 

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the kangaroo contingent was very ordinary... but you can't blame low numbers from interstate clubs

more swan supporters should of been there (alot more actually).... so we've just have to cop it
 

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the kangaroo contingent was very ordinary... but you can't blame low numbers from interstate clubs

more swan supporters should of been there (alot more actually).... so we've just have to cop it
It just highlights where our club is at really. There are about 15-20k Sydney based supporters that are hardcore (evident from the level of atmosphere at the game) and then there are a further 15-20k that we are yet to truly win over. They'll turn up to the footy if the weathers nice, we're on a winning streak and nothing else happens to be on that night.
 

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It just highlights where our club is at really. There are about 15-20k Sydney based supporters that are hardcore (evident from the level of atmosphere at the game) and then there are a further 15-20k that we are yet to truly win over. They'll turn up to the footy if the weathers nice, we're on a winning streak and nothing else happens to be on that night.
Yep. We will one day build a footy culture in Sydney, especially with West Sydney coming in. Who knows how long it will really take. We need to pass generations of misconception, and lack of knowledge. Kids were not taught the game, or when they were young it was still "The Victorian Game". But as we go through those generations, they will become more open to AFL as an option. It is becoming okay to like AFL along with League.

We will be a very powerful club one day, just unknown how long it will take.
 

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Yep. We will one day build a footy culture in Sydney, especially with West Sydney coming in. Who knows how long it will really take. We need to pass generations of misconception, and lack of knowledge. Kids were not taught the game, or when they were young it was still "The Victorian Game". But as we go through those generations, they will become more open to AFL as an option. It is becoming okay to like AFL along with League.

We will be a very powerful club one day, just unknown how long it will take.
It's going to take a very long time.
 

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Yep. We will one day build a footy culture in Sydney, especially with West Sydney coming in. Who knows how long it will really take. We need to pass generations of misconception, and lack of knowledge. Kids were not taught the game, or when they were young it was still "The Victorian Game". But as we go through those generations, they will become more open to AFL as an option. It is becoming okay to like AFL along with League.

We will be a very powerful club one day, just unknown how long it will take.

Kieran Jacks old man should be our ambassador..:thumbsu:
 

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Yep. We will one day build a footy culture in Sydney, especially with West Sydney coming in. Who knows how long it will really take. We need to pass generations of misconception, and lack of knowledge. Kids were not taught the game, or when they were young it was still "The Victorian Game". But as we go through those generations, they will become more open to AFL as an option. It is becoming okay to like AFL along with League.

We will be a very powerful club one day, just unknown how long it will take.
We are a powerful club
 

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Kieran Jacks old man should be our ambassador..:thumbsu:
Indeed. How much money is the AFL investing in Sydney? Why isn't this great of Rugby Leagues son being paid a lot of money to be a spokesmen for AFL in NSW, or at least articles in the media.

That might convert a few.
 

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Indeed. How much money is the AFL investing in Sydney? Why isn't this great of Rugby Leagues son being paid a lot of money to be a spokesmen for AFL in NSW, or at least articles in the media.

That might convert a few.
Just let him go and play the good footy that he is, could be the next Kirk or J.Bolton
 

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I meant having Kierens father endorse the code, instead of this bias media against us. It is starting to happen by showing him on TV.
Good call Mase.Does one of your daily papers have a Jon Pierik writing for it?.this fella with the backing of his paper by the way which is biased to the boofhead game is out to put the swans down any chance he gets.
What he knows about footy you could write on Fevola's brain
 

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On their board they claimed 1.5-2k.

Lol.
Bahahahaha that's hillarious. Proves that comment comes from someone not at the game, which just shows how many of them weren't! I came home from the game saying under 1k, and that was extremely generous. In reality after watching The Winners - the only highlights I've seen of the game, going to record it on Fox tomorrow - it's likely around the 300-500 mark.
 

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EVERYONE in the Victorian media seems to be taking aim at the Sydney club and supporters for the abysmal crowd Saturday night, and I know that's partly fair enough.
But did anyone read in today's Herald Sun Pulse section, that Ricky Ponting, North's No 1 ticketholder, texted Glenn Archer before the game from his home IN SYDNEY to say it was too cold and wet and he'd be staying home to watch the game on TV.

FANTASTIC advertisement for the commitment of North fans in general, when their highest-profile fan, a bloke used as a spearhead in the club's campaign to stay in Melbourne 12 months ago, can't be fcked to make it to his team's elimination final, even when it's being played in his home city. Goodd on you, Ricky, that's showing your colours.

(I just had to highlight this because, 48 hours after the event, I'm now sick of the slagging we've copped about the crowd and I want Demetriou's fat head on a stake in the main shopping centre in Blacktown, so all the AFL haters there have someone to direct their bile at.)
Leave Punter out of this, he's a great man.
 

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I'm really not sure about all this hysteria about the 19k crowd figure and how it is being contributed to the doom and gloom of another Sydney based team, considering this is the sole time it has happened.

1. The weather was atrocious along with the game being shown live contributed.

2. $75 a ticket combined with the economics issue.

3. Marketing and advertising for the game was atrocious irony is the promo ad was still running on Sunday morning...

4. Vlad predicted prior to the game it would be lucky to attract 20k he was right.

5. It's North... 1.5-2k? from what i saw lucky if there was 200 there, we got ~35k in round 13 against the Pies.

So i ask whats everyone surprised about?
 
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