Discussion DPP watch

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Definitely adds a layer of strategy to SuperCoach these days. You only have to look at last year where (especially forward) most of the top scorers didn’t start in that position.

Who’s on your dpp watch list? Gawn and Petracca would be the main two I’d imagine.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Gawn 45% CBA's maybe Def DPP more likely

 

[Jiska]

Gawn 45% CBA's maybe Def DPP more likely

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Always said it was more likely that Gawn goes back while Grundy goes forward, and it looked that way live at the game. This confirms the eye test. Gawn did spend some time deep forward when resting but the majority of his 'roaming' time was definitely across half-back.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Always said it was more likely that Gawn goes back while Grundy goes forward, and it looked that way live at the game. This confirms the eye test. Gawn did spend some time deep forward when resting but the majority of his 'roaming' time was definitely across half-back.

Grundy looking likely for R/F - although probably not going to score well enough unless Gawn gets LTI.

 

[TempletonTheRat]

Gawn 45% CBA's maybe Def DPP more likely

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heat map is where he got possessions - isn't DPP based on starting positions - would he need to line up in the back 6 at CBA's to get Def DPP?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

heat map is where he got possessions - isn't DPP based on starting positions - would he need to line up in the back 6 at CBA's to get Def DPP?

Gawn was 87% TOG, so was on field for most of the other CBA's.

Re: how DPP is decided. I can't remember whether its starting positions, DPP, or both. Seymour Skinner Jcpdragonx do you guys know?

 

[HTPunter]

Adams mid, forward added
Ziebell forward, defence added

Not SC relevant (either s**t scoring or you’re not going to use the new position)
Rachele forward, mid added
Rayner forward, defence added
Bruce forward, defence added
Jarmaine Jones defence, forward added
Cunningham defence, forward added

Watch and see (could be close based off round 1 but need more time in new spots)
Grundy - forward
Mitchell & De Goey - still mostly midfield and small portions forward, but with an increase in forward time.
Josh Daicos

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- defence
Callan Ward

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Callan Ward

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- started forward but injuries meant he moved to the middle

 

[godfather01]

Always said it was more likely that Gawn goes back while Grundy goes forward, and it looked that way live at the game. This confirms the eye test. Gawn did spend some time deep forward when resting but the majority of his 'roaming' time was definitely across half-back.

Might only be short term whilst May is out?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Adams mid, forward added
Ziebell forward, defence added

Not SC relevant (either s**t scoring or you’re not going to use the new position)
Rachele forward, mid added
Rayner forward, defence added
Bruce forward, defence added
Jarmaine Jones defence, forward added
Cunningham defence, forward added

Watch and see (could be close based off round 1 but need more time in new spots)
Grundy - forward
Mitchell & De Goey - still mostly midfield and small portions forward, but with an increase in forward time.
Josh Daicos - defence
Callan Ward - started forward but injuries meant he moved to the middle

Ash and Sheezel should get defence added.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Gawn was 87% TOG, so was on field for most of the other CBA's.

Re: how DPP is decided. I can't remember whether its starting positions, DPP, or both. Seymour Skinner Jcpdragonx do you guys know?

Fairly certain it was based on both.

Using Dusty and an example;

In 2020 he was DPP, had 76% CBAs, if it was based only on CBAs he should have been mid only the next year.

In 2021 he was still DPP, and had 70% CBAs, same as the year before.

In 2022 he again started with DPP.

So it can't solely be based on starting position.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Gotta remember it’s where they line up at centre bounces, Gawn won’t get def.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Gotta remember it’s where they line up at centre bounces, Gawn won’t get def.

It's not just that. Did you read the post above yours?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Pinched from another site, not sure how accurate. Seen those numbers for Gawn elsewhere too.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Feel like de Goey started a bunch of CBA's in the F50, must have been imagining things.

 

[HTPunter]

Feel like de Goey started a bunch of CBA's in the F50, must have been imaging things.

He started 27 of 39 in the square, not sure how many he was on the bench for (if any) but overwhelmingly started in the midfield.

 

[TheByeRound]

What are the chances Mason Wood

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gets Fwd flex?

 

[nameless]

Pinched from another site, not sure how accurate. Seen those numbers for Gawn elsewhere too.

What site is this from?
It's a good guide at least

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

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23

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was at 30% forward after the first two rounds and played forward again last night ....is he a chance for FWD / MID DPP ?

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Macrae will be a shout for forward?

 

[Blackhawk42]

This might give away my POD if he keeps performing, but Jai Newcombe spent 63% of the game in the forward half yesterday. Still managed 22 disposals and 500m gained. Kicked 1.1.

Has scored 70, 99 and 106 in his first 3 games.

Will be interesting to see if he continues to spend time in the forward 50. Everything clicked yesterday from a structure perspective so there is a chance Sam Mitchell persists with the Duke as a mid/fwd.

 

[toxic]

This might give away my POD if he keeps performing, but Jai Newcombe spent 63% of the game in the forward half yesterday. Still managed 22 disposals and 500m gained. Kicked 1.1.

Has scored 70, 99 and 106 in his first 3 games.

Will be interesting to see if he continues to spend time in the forward 50. Everything clicked yesterday from a structure perspective so there is a chance Sam Mitchell persists with the Duke as a mid/fwd.

Assuming he doesn't get suspended from the chicken wing style tackle

 

[Blackhawk42]

Assuming he doesn't get suspended from the chicken wing style tackle

Didn't even look bad in the slow motion footage. Salty North supporters inventing something that isn't there IMO.

 

[toxic]

Didn't even look bad in the slow motion footage. Salty North supporters inventing something that isn't there IMO.

It's looks ordinary bud

Will be an interesting study

 

[Blackhawk42]

It's looks ordinary bud

Will be an interesting study

Slow motion footage that cuts out before the incident is even finished?

Fine at worst.

I'd be saying the same thing if Ben Cunnington had done it to Newcombe instead.

 

[HTPunter]

Assuming he doesn't get suspended from the chicken wing style tackle

You’re not gonna bother getting him for a couple of weeks anyway until/if he gets DPP