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Absolute rubbish.

Do you think it's a fluke that there are guys that come in the top 100 year in year out? Because if it was all luck then the odds of that are extremely minimal.

It's not pure guess work. I mean it might be for you but I know it's not for me and most others.

Sure we know the best players, the injury prone players, the good looking draftees that have a body already made for afl football.

But with dreamteam there are so many variables, when it comes down to it, the main thing is to get your original starting squad as good as humanly possible.

After that it is knowing who to trade & when.

Really, if you want to finish in the top 1000 every season, you need to do a fair bit of research instead of picking your lineup without this research on February 1st
 
I wouldve died to have his starting team this year

NO broughton, picked Heppell as a defender, picked Curnow, started with Goodes and Shaw.

His only downfall was No Cox and Starting Brad green

The game certainly involves skill. However i think the difference between the number 1 team and the number 1000 team and maybe its even number 2-3000 now with the increase in competition is luck.
 
Sure we know the best players, the injury prone players, the good looking draftees that have a body already made for afl football.

But with dreamteam there are so many variables, when it comes down to it, the main thing is to get your original starting squad as good as humanly possible.

After that it is knowing who to trade & when.

Really, if you want to finish in the top 1000 every season, you need to do a fair bit of research instead of picking your lineup without this research on February 1st

So you have gone from we can't possibly know what players to pick unless we work in the inner sanctums of a club to of course we can all pick a good team?????? Happy digging mate.
 

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Agreed his Starting team was good. Fitting in Boyd, Pendles and Swan in mids. If he saw early he could have jumped ryder to Cox for round 3 easy enough and then worked on the forwardline. As we know he sideways traded early and that cost him the money he needed to really be strong now.

But I disagree with ^ saying the top 3000 are separated by luck. Looking at BE's and averages and when to downgrade and when to bring in people is important.

The way I see it and I don't mind if people disagree. There are always some players that become clearly the best few in their position. Usually the top teams will have these but the teams that go higher will be the ones that find the 'bargains' for their last 10 or so spots. Bargains means more points per dollar and need to be found between rounds 10 and 15ish. So you get enough games out of them to make a differnece but they don't suck up all your precious bank balance.
 
His initial team was pretty good save for a few missed players (Cox, Smith the 2 obvious ones for me), but aside from maybe Murphy and Watson, he hasn't made any real progress with his team upgrading wise.

Not sure how many trades he has burnt, but he has done a lot of downgrading and sideways trading.
 
Agreed his Starting team was good. Fitting in Boyd, Pendles and Swan in mids. If he saw early he could have jumped ryder to Cox for round 3 easy enough and then worked on the forwardline. As we know he sideways traded early and that cost him the money he needed to really be strong now.

But I disagree with ^ saying the top 3000 are separated by luck. Looking at BE's and averages and when to downgrade and when to bring in people is important.

The way I see it and I don't mind if people disagree. There are always some players that become clearly the best few in their position. Usually the top teams will have these but the teams that go higher will be the ones that find the 'bargains' for their last 10 or so spots. Bargains means more points per dollar and need to be found between rounds 10 and 15ish. So you get enough games out of them to make a difference but they don't suck up all your precious bank balance.

What i was trying say is that just about anyone that finishes in the top 2-3k now has the same amount of knowledge and does the same amount of research as each other. There is only so much you can do. It would be interesting but id say at of the top 4000 at least 80-90% of them would look at breakevens, who players are playing for the rest of the year and avgs ect

Also some people take early calculated risk to try and separate themselves from the field to see if they can get an upper hand. Certainly something i was trying to do with Deledio. It costed me severely and i actually worked out after round 13 i would be in the top 100 instead of ranked outside the top 4000, had i kept him and done nothing different. Goes to show the domino affect one wrong move can have.
 

In terms of starting teams it really is a thing of beauty, Ryder over Cox and McCaulay over Smith are the two obvious misses compared to most other teams.

Hypothetical (but not outlandish) trades
Grimes to Rawlings/Suckling (Injury)
Otten to Puopolo (+$100k)
Curnow to Jacobs (+$180k)
Richardson to ROK (-$180k)
Darling to Mzungu (+$170k)
Harris to Murphy (-$200k)
Sandi to Cox (Injury)
Matera to Lynch (+$80k)
Swallow to Ablett (-$120k)
Toy to Golby (+$70k)
Kraks to Sylvia (-$70k)

Not great depth, rucks an issue and a premium short in defence but good scoring on the field and team done at 11 trades :p plenty of room for sideways trades as well.
 
I wouldve died to have his starting team this year

NO broughton, picked Heppell as a defender, picked Curnow, started with Goodes and Shaw.

His only downfall was No Cox and Starting Brad green

The game certainly involves skill. However i think the difference between the number 1 team and the number 1000 team and maybe its even number 2-3000 now with the increase in competition is luck.
Luck can differentiate between the top 5,000 teams at least I reckon.
 
for some extra credability, the AFL should emply the winner of the previous seasons afl dreamteam for the next season. They know what they are talking about in regards to the starting lineup in February/March and trades/starting selections on field for the season.

Thoughts ?

All the afl would need to do is fly the person every friday morning to afl headquarters for the weekly video, the rest can easily be done at home.
 

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for some extra credability, the AFL should emply the winner of the previous seasons afl dreamteam for the next season. They know what they are talking about in regards to the starting lineup in February/March and trades/starting selections on field for the season.

Thoughts ?

All the afl would need to do is fly the person every friday morning to afl headquarters for the weekly video, the rest can easily be done at home.

It wouldn't necessarily have to be the winner. I'd prefer someone who has finished top 100 a few times; then you'd know that their success wasn't due to luck.
 
It wouldn't necessarily have to be the winner. I'd prefer someone who has finished top 100 a few times; then you'd know that their success wasn't due to luck.

top 100 ? honestly though, top 1000 would do me fine, but not just finishing there once, would have to have finished in the top 1000 atleast 2.

For example, if a person has played AFL Dreamteam for 3 seasons and finished top 1000 2 times then that is fine.

If they have played DT for 5 seasons then a top 1000 finish minimum 3 times would be suitable.
 
I personally like hack advice given to the general football public.

Someone who has finished in the top 100 or 1st the previous year is going to need to get paid a fair bit, because im sure they are aiming to win the car.
 
It's not even like he's had the worst of luck this season... We can criticise his trading strategy above all. Initial team selection and structure were pretty good, but he ruined what could have been a top 1000 team with pointless sideways trading.

Some of his advice on afl.com chat makes me wonder if he really has any idea at all, though.:confused:
 

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The Doc is the perfect example of arrogance without cause.

The man's a douche.

Although I'll agree with previously expressed sentiments about his work insofar as I'm happy for him to continue dishing out mediocre advice - it makes it easier for players who actually pay attention to seperate themselves out from the rest of the DT playing population.

I remember the chat the week he was sideways trading during the DT non scoring rounds. There was about a 40 minute patch of people just owning him repeatedly... lol'd hard.
 
The Doc is the perfect example of arrogance without cause.

The man's a douche.

Although I'll agree with previously expressed sentiments about his work insofar as I'm happy for him to continue dishing out mediocre advice - it makes it easier for players who actually pay attention to seperate themselves out from the rest of the DT playing population.

I remember the chat the week he was sideways trading during the DT non scoring rounds. There was about a 40 minute patch of people just owning him repeatedly... lol'd hard.

My comments in Dr DT chat never get published, perhaps because I'm so abusive when it comes to his advice.

"I am here to make you better." LOL.

http://www.afl.com.au/dr%20dream%20team/tabid/15677/default.aspx
DR DREAM TEAM: Mr Fantasy, you scored more than 2000 last week but only had one Collingwood player missing with the bye so we'll take that with a big, heavy grain of salt. Do you think there's any chance you have peaked too early?

That coming from a sideways-trader.
 
It's not even like he's had the worst of luck this season... We can criticise his trading strategy above all. Initial team selection and structure were pretty good, but he ruined what could have been a top 1000 team with pointless sideways trading.

Some of his advice on afl.com chat makes me wonder if he really has any idea at all, though.:confused:

Sometimes sideways trading is the way to go actually. eg - gary ablett jnr after gc suns 2nd bye. Also now that Collingwood have had their 2nd bye.

I'd be surpised if the likes of Swan and/or Pendlebury weren't traded IN a fair bit for this week onwards.
 
Sometimes sideways trading is the way to go actually. eg - gary ablett jnr after gc suns 2nd bye. Also now that Collingwood have had their 2nd bye.

I'd be surpised if the likes of Swan and/or Pendlebury weren't traded IN a fair bit for this week onwards.

Just because they are traded in, doesn't make it sideways.
 
Sometimes sideways trading is the way to go actually. eg - gary ablett jnr after gc suns 2nd bye. Also now that Collingwood have had their 2nd bye.

I'd be surpised if the likes of Swan and/or Pendlebury weren't traded IN a fair bit for this week onwards.

Upgrading usually makes you alot more points.

The only way i would sideways trades was if i saw a definite role change (Broughton playing deep back pocket was one early in the season) or if a premium got injured for a long time (Mundy is an example of this).

Otherwise sideways trading is no good and you will get a better ranking downgrading and upgrading.
 

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