Analysis Draft 2nd & 3rd round picks

[Turboman1994]

If a certain player gets picked at 32 i'll be calling for an overhaul of our recruiting and talent identification process.

Clem Smith?

 

[Masto]

Clem Smith?

He only rates players he has seen play in the Colts. If they play in the WAFL seniors he doesn't rate them - see Blakely as well.

 

[maxrm]

Really hoping that one of Blakely, Menadue, Rainbow, D.Mckenzie or Cavka make it to #32. Not particularly keen on Miller I don't think he has the pace and production required for an inside midfielder at his height. Could also see the recruiters going tall and selecting someone like R.Mckenzie or Oscar McDonald or Buykx-Smith with a later selection.
I expect Smith to slide to #51 or even #69 whilst Abbott, Markov, Lim, Goodyear, McGovern, Boekhorst and Panos could be in contention as well and could even be available as rookie selections. Not convinced on McGovern but would be happy if we ended up with him if he can develop anything like Jeremy has.
Realistic dream draft;
Weller, Viojo-Rainbow, Boekhorst, Abbott with Lim in the rookie draft.
My only concern with a draft like that would be that they are mostly outside players. I expect Viojo-Rainbow, Menadue, Blakely and D.Mckenzie to be gone by #32 so it might be a good opportunity to go tall.

 

[eagles rule]

Pick 32 : Maynard ,Rainbow or McKenzie

Pick 51:Miller ,Oleg ,Smith ,Lonie

Pick 69 : Lucas ,MaGovern ,Anderson

 

[Prem87]

Surely we have to take Mitch McGovern with one of our later picks - we'd be crazy not to.

Although he is 191 cm - I think height is overrated these days for forwards. It helps but players like Fev, Bradshaw we're shorter and had great careers. Mitch is one to replace Kennedy in a few years time.

 

[dajesmac]

He only rates players he has seen play in the Colts. If they play in the WAFL seniors he doesn't rate them - see Blakely as well.

Weird attempt at a dig...

I've read ER talking Blakely up before so not sure what you're talking about. Also, plenty of posters think Smith is shite.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Poll added

 

[paran]

He only rates players he has seen play in the Colts. If they play in the WAFL seniors he doesn't rate them - see Blakely as well.

What he's said is that we have Sheed and Waterman who he (and I) rate as similar but better, so why go with the more of that?

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Surely we have to take Mitch McGovern with one of our later picks - we'd be crazy not to.

Although he is 191 cm - I think height is overrated these days for forwards. It helps but players like Fev, Bradshaw we're shorter and had great careers. Mitch is one to replace Kennedy in a few years time.

There is no way Gov Jnr replaces Kennedy unless he grows another 5cm. You bring up Fev and Bradshaw but what you don't mention is that defenders are getting taller and more agile. It's not uncommon to see 196 to 200cm defenders now who run a 20m sprint under 3 seconds. I have no doubt that if Fev and Bradshaw were playing these days, they'd be nowhere near as affective as they were.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

He only rates players he has seen play in the Colts. If they play in the WAFL seniors he doesn't rate them - see Blakely as well.

I rate Blakely, see my comments on him. I also got to see him play Colts. He's not who id be picking at 11 at any case. Not on best available and not on needs.

Also Blakely's performance at League level isn't what will get him drafted. It was merely adequate for his age and profile.

I've seen Clem play well over a dozen times across different levels nothing he did at league level was note worthy. Thus he was dropped. He also didn't deserve to be elevated in the first place.

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[Suma Magic]

I voted for Miller as who I think we will pick.

I really want Rainbow though.

 

[Chris_6678]

For me:

2nd round - Rainbow if not Miller or Gore

3rd - Smith

4th - Mcgovern

I have read that Hawks and Freo into Miller.

 

[SpaceClef]

I voted for Miller as who I think we will pick.

I really want Rainbow though.

Miller looks like a little gun IMO. Would be stoked with him at 32

 

[Masto]

Weird attempt at a dig...

I've read ER talking Blakely up before so not sure what you're talking about. Also, plenty of posters think Smith is shite.

That's pretty funny since you already queried EH yourself about this very issue.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-long-offseason.1075571/page-86#post-35361768

Blakely i'd pass on, more vanilla.

Very similar to Waterman in that regard, just less explosive in stoppage scenarios and less likely to exit congestion on his own terms.

Goes on to say Waterman is a better prospect (absurd).

Connor Blakely would be the most over rated WA player of the lot. Can find the ball at stoppages but isn't the most intelligent user going forward in traffic, needs to take the first option more often.

Also some quotes from a thread I can't quote because its locked.

Can't kick.

Runs like a mule. Short stride length.

So nothing weird about it. Although your attempt to protect his rep is a bit weird. You really need to take EH down off that pedestal you have him on. He is just another observer who is quite often wrong.

 

[bluengold89]

I voted for Miller as who I think we will pick.

I really want Rainbow though.

I'd be stoked with either of those 2.

 

[maxrm]

Surely we have to take Mitch McGovern with one of our later picks - we'd be crazy not to.

Although he is 191 cm - I think height is overrated these days for forwards. It helps but players like Fev, Bradshaw we're shorter and had great careers. Mitch is one to replace Kennedy in a few years time.

"McGovern is projecting as a first or second rounder pick."
Big news if true! Most of us have been expecting that he'll be around at #69 or even as a rookie but perhaps that isn't the case. Interesting to see if he's contention for West Coast and Fremantle's 2nd rounders.

 

[dajesmac]

That's pretty funny since you already queried EH yourself about this very issue.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-long-offseason.1075571/page-86#post-35361768





Goes on to say Waterman is a better prospect (absurd).



Also some quotes from a thread I can't quote because its locked.

Can't kick.

Runs like a mule. Short stride length.

So nothing weird about it. Although your attempt to protect his rep is a bit weird. You really need to take EH down off that pedestal you have him on. He is just another observer who is quite often wrong.

Fair enough. But he's talked him up since then and said he would be a very good selection at 32 (which is the consensus) and had gone cold on him as a first rounder. Every player has his knocks.

Haha there's no pedestal. You suggested he has a bias against kids who play league which is just plain stupid, and worth calling out. I think you're still a bit burnt from the McGovern thing.

 

[Adzam]

I think I would be happy with Rainbow or Miller. If they are both gone I would want Gore.

 

[mattyc75]

i don't think Menadue will be available but if by some chance he is there is no way we should pass on him.just what we need,speed and skill but probably going closer to our first than second.whoever we get at our second should be good.there will be some talent there for sure.
I want abbott too at some stage.powerful and skillful

 

[Prem87]

Markov looks exciting as well with a 3rd

 

[Dark Sharks]

Mitch Mcgov as a first or second rounder? What the shit.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Mitch Mcgov as a first or second rounder? What the shit.

Yeah. I rate him. But a big pass, not something we're in dire need of.

I suspect clubs have him lined up as a third tall type defender, who can push forward.

 

[WCE1698]

Yeah. I rate him. But a big pass, not something we're in dire need of.

I suspect clubs have him lined up as a third tall type defender, who can push forward.

wouldnt be bad if we snared him with 51 or 69 though.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

"McGovern is projecting as a first or second rounder pick."
Big news if true! Most of us have been expecting that he'll be around at #69 or even as a rookie but perhaps that isn't the case. Interesting to see if he's contention for West Coast and Fremantle's 2nd rounders.

Would be a big shock if true, wouldn't really want to use pick 32 on him, especially if Menadue, Miller, Vlojo-Rainbow, etc, are still available. No doubt Jeremy's season has thrust him into the spotlight. We should only take him once we've addressed our main needs.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

That's pretty funny since you already queried EH yourself about this very issue.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...-long-offseason.1075571/page-86#post-35361768

Goes on to say Waterman is a better prospect (absurd).

Also some quotes from a thread I can't quote because its locked.

Can't kick.

Runs like a mule. Short stride length.

So nothing weird about it. Although your attempt to protect his rep is a bit weird. You really need to take EH down off that pedestal you have him on. He is just another observer who is quite often wrong.

Way to prove my point. He's got positives and negatives, like every player.

He's a slow kick and has average projection on it. As for his running, he's got a short stride length, it's what hampers his top end pace and helps a little on his agility. Neither are outrageous.

You've overlooked some areas of weakness in Blakely's game or simply not articulated them. His inability to project up field or kick goals is a big problem. His clearance work is top notch and he's capable of some really nice touches on the spread. However his work around the ground is sub par in terms of his capacity to find space, and as a result he's not proven capable of finding the ball in dangerous areas. When he does going forward he's not the most damaging player with ball in hand.

But you can't really know the above from watching a few minutes of highlights.