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the Ziebull

Brownlow Medallist
Nov 14, 2010
22,377
18,661
AFL Club
North Melbourne
If we finish on the bottom we 100% should at the very least get an end of first round pick

and if we go winless that should be a priority pick at the start of the firstround
 

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Only Forwards

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 14, 2008
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At some point later in the year I'll do a comparison to those clubs that have recently got one and where we sit comparatively.

This thread has gone early on the back of the forst 3 rounds


If we were the Gold Coast we'd probably get additional first, additional end of first, and first access to any kid who's club side has the letter S or T in it.
 

Passmore

Brownlow Medallist
May 22, 2001
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I used to be proud of our non PP status. It doesn’t work, means nothing.

Everyone else takes advantage of the system, time for us to get with the program.
Yeah, I was proud of our years without a spoon. And PP. If we win a flag in 5 years, will anyone give a sh*t of we got a spoon and a PP back in 2021?

Milk the ******* system.

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utility

Norm Smith Medallist
Sep 26, 2003
9,722
6,345
Melbourne
AFL Club
North Melbourne
It'll be a miracle if we win a game this year, so I'd bank a PP. Though it'd be end of first round and not the start because leopards don't change their spots.
 

the Ziebull

Brownlow Medallist
Nov 14, 2010
22,377
18,661
AFL Club
North Melbourne
It'll be a miracle if we win a game this year, so I'd bank a PP. Though it'd be end of first round and not the start because leopards don't change their spots.
Nah if we don’t win a game it should be start of first round or at the very least it should be middle of first round
 

RooDave

Debutant
Jul 9, 2007
62
28
Melbourne
AFL Club
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It'll be a miracle if we win a game this year, so I'd bank a PP. Though it'd be end of first round and not the start because leopards don't change their spots.
Definitely this. We will probably fluke a win once or twice this year but we wont be competitive in a lot of games. Irrespecitve of the AFL not liking us, what they really don't like is upsetting their sponsors, broadcasters and betting partners. Teams that are a walkover aren't good for the game and the look of the competition. Expect us to apply early and get an end of first round PP.
 

ChoppyGun

Premium Platinum
Jul 19, 2020
5,447
9,680
AFL Club
North Melbourne
More likely the AFL will try and push our picks back in the order through some bullshit compensation than give us a Priority Pick.
 

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archereleven

Brownlow Medallist
Apr 7, 2013
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Only Forwards

Brownlow Medallist
Aug 14, 2008
20,223
49,917
Melbourne
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North Melbourne
I fail to see how we get less the Gold Coast if we perform worse?

How does the AFL bat that away?
Performing worse that the Gold Coast would in all likelihood kill us. We don't have the league funding 5k crowds and AFL media calling them great turnouts.

I know I said I would do it later but here is the comparative stuff of PPs that are relevant. The make up was changed in 2012 because Melbourne tanked. Meaning Melbourne, Carlton, And anyone else who got one before them are meaningless to the current day.

Criteria the judge on:
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This is Gold Coast ladder positions since their inception:
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This is ours -2 years from the great exodus of 2016:
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Gold Coast were given half the world in draft concession in 2019:
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This would be based on the fact that all bar 2 years (2013 & 2014) they were bottom 4.

We would need to be sh*t for probably another 3 years meaning bottom 2 until 2023 in order to get anything resembling what they did. Fact is that would kill us. We would be pretty dire if we were uncompetitive for that long. Its been too long already TBH.

We are not even really on par with Brisbane of 2016 who received a end of first round priority pick:
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If we win the spoon this year and ask for a priority pick I'd be astounded if we were to get more than an end of first round pick as a best case scenario.

If we don't win the spoon then pretty much forget about it.

The failure to pick a direction and stick to it in 2018, coupled with the rally for Rhyce in 2019 would mean plumbing the depths for my time than we are feasible able in order to attain this sort of help.

So by all means if we are sh*t enough we should ask. But don't expect much or be angry when we don't get much.
 

Sphynx

Team Captain
Jul 10, 2011
537
789
AFL Club
North Melbourne
Lets see where we finish on this graph at the end of the year.

This is after Rnd 3 in which you can see scoring has increased.

If we are anywhere near the GC or GWS bottoms, we 100% will be inline for one.




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Kangaroos techno

Debutant
Feb 4, 2021
57
139
AFL Club
North Melbourne
I can see us fitting the same criteria as GC only to have the AFL rub it in by giving us pick 20. They'll make it seem like we were lucky to get that and the AFL media will make it seem that way too.

I'd give them my left nut to get pick 1 and 2 this year.
 

King Corey

Moderator
Jun 9, 2001
28,274
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North Melbourne
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I can see us fitting the same criteria as GC only to have the AFL rub it in by giving us pick 20. They'll make it seem like we were lucky to get that and the AFL media will make it seem that way too.

I'd give them my left nut to get pick 1 and 2 this year.
There is no way to get past the human nature aspect of it. I don't have immediate concerns about our leadership but if you have a figurehead publicly known as aggressive and intimidating there is little doubt that'll stop them taking the piss like that.

Collingwood got a Sunday twilight vs dogs few years ago, pulled less than WE did for the timeslot, complained and were no longer scheduled for that slot.
 

Sphynx

Team Captain
Jul 10, 2011
537
789
AFL Club
North Melbourne
There is no way to get past the human nature aspect of it. I don't have immediate concerns about our leadership but if you have a figurehead publicly known as aggressive and intimidating there is little doubt that'll stop them taking the piss like that.

Collingwood got a Sunday twilight vs dogs few years ago, pulled less than WE did for the timeslot, complained and were no longer scheduled for that slot.

Yeah, but when it's laid out on a graph like that, if this was to remain, we'd be clearly the worst side of the last 30 years, the gap between second last and us this year is almost 100% greater than any other year in that period.

That is damning.
 

King Corey

Moderator
Jun 9, 2001
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Yeah, but when it's laid out on a graph like that, if this was to remain, we'd be clearly the worst side of the last 30 years, the gap between second last and us this year is almost 100% greater than any other year in that period.

That is damning.
Shock horror though, I'm guessing the AFL priority pick special sauce uses none of the criteria they publicly list and all of the criteria listed under the heading "Franchises and Favourite Clubs".
 

Roman Roy

I’m dumb, but I’m smart.
Oct 3, 2017
1,886
6,061
AFL Club
North Melbourne
He got pinged twice mate.


The ironing.

The best handballer in the league getting frees against for throwing against f*n Western!

You can't make that sh*t up...

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Clear fist to the ball on at least one of those as well. Meanwhile the Bont was giving lessons to the boundary umpires.
 

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