Draft Camp: Players Invited

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by macca23
Wouldn't Gayfer be our most likely first round target, Stiffy (given that Bradley and Watts are almost certain to be gonne by then. Or would it be Morrison as suggested by Weaver??

To be honest i am not certain that either will be available.

If you look at it there are 5 talls that could go in 1st round Bradley, Watts, Chaplin, Gayfer and Morrison.

Western Bulldogs, Melbourne, Geelong, Richmond, Hawthorn and Kangaroos are all possibly looking for talls. At the end of the day we might miss out on both unless we trade up in the draft.

If both Gayfer and Morrison were available come pick 14, personally I would go for Gayfer. Morrison is good but any KPP who has had a shoulder reconstruction at the age of 18 is a risk IMHO especially when he is expected to take overhead marks.

Before Gayfer was injured prior to championships, he was having a better season than Watts. As I said earlier in 8 games he has taken 49 marks playing at CHF. Not overly athletic but a very smart player who doesn't make mistakes under pressure and is physical. At 192 cm and 92 kg he could play a game or two in 2004 which would no doubt help his development

I would definetly take Gayfer.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I really rate Weaver's judgement. He is not far off the mark with his ratings of Victorian Kids. He likes Gayfer more than Morrison and possibly Watts.

Dasler is the man for the WA draft prospects. A bloke watches a lot of colts games (especially South Fremantle).

He reckons Hall is an early to mid 2nd rounder.

I say get some top 30 draft picks Crows

 

[Jerome]

17
Brad Symes
Central District
Mar 7, 85
185
75
6
Medium defender/midfielder who is strong over the ball. Good hand and foot skills. Member of AIS-AFL Academy in 2002. Named SA’s most valuable player at 2003 National AFL U/18 Championships, and won All-Australian U/18 honours. From Gawler Centrals FC.

21
Sam Butler
Central District
Jan 14, 86
185
75
3
Medium, inside midfielder/foward with clean hands and good foot skills. Rarely goes to ground and reads the play well. AIS-AFL Academy member and SA U/18 representative in 2003. From South Gawler FC.

47
Dylan Pfitzner
Central District
Apr 13, 85
195
80
4
Tall, inside key forward who positions himself well and has strong hands. SA U/18 representative in 2003. From Gawler Centrals FC.

70
Jason Whitehead
Woodville W/T
Aug 28, 85
197
84
55
Tall, outside ruckman with an excellent leap and quick hands. Has good endurance. SA U/18 representatives this year. From Moonta FC.


Had a look at all of these guys in the reserves match today. All of the Centrals guys played fairly solid games.

Whitehead was not much chop. Took a couple of good marks, but his ruckwork was woeful. Damo Arnold beat him every time.

 

[Jerome]

However the one bloke I would love to see at the Crows is Eddie Sansbury!! This guy just keeps getting better, kicked some good goals today.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by Jerome
Whitehead was not much chop. Took a couple of good marks, but his ruckwork was woeful. Damo Arnold beat him every time.

Told ya he was a dud

Symes is pick of that lot.

How old is Sansbury?????? The bloke has some serious speed and is a bit of an excitement machine.

 

[Jerome]

Eddie Sansbury
age 19
height 180
weight 85

I'd love it if we got him!

 

[Stiffy_18]

In that case maybe use a later pick on him or rookie list him. Definetly has come on pretty quickly in the 2nd half of the season.

 

[Jerome]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
In that case maybe use a later pick on him or rookie list him. Definetly has come on pretty quickly in the 2nd half of the season.

Agreed!

GO THE DOGS!

 

[Stiffy_18]

BUMP.

Draft Camp starts tommorrow

 

[Stiffy_18]

Draft Camp results
2003 National AFL draft camp results

Agility
Jacob Surjan (South Fremantle) – 8.08
Tom Logan (Waratahs-Darwin) – 8.12
Ricky Dyson (Northern Knights) – 8.14
Alex Gilmour (Tassie Mariners) – 8.16
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 8.23
Callum Burges (West Perth) – 8.24
Colin Sylvia (Bendigo Pioneers) – 8.26
Kane Tenace (Murray Bushrangers) – 8.34
Matthew Moody (South Fremantle) – 8.34
Chad Jones (Claremont) – 8.42

20-metre sprint
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 2.85
Kane Tenace (Murray Bushrangers) – 2.89
Brent Stanton (Northern Knights) – 2.90
Jacob Surjan (South Fremantle) – 2.90
Alex Gilmour (Tassie Mariners) – 2.93
Leigh Ryswyk (Southport) – 2.95
Brett Jones (Claremont) – 2.96
Jed Adcock (North Ballarat Rebels) – 2.96
Ricky Dyson (Northern Knights) – 2.96
Chad Jones (Claremont) – 2.97
Ryley Dunn (Murray Bushrangers) – 2.97

Vertical jump (standing)
Colin Sylvia (Bendigo Pioneers) – 71cm
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 70cm
Jason Whitehead (Woodville West Torrens) – 70cm
Raphael Clarke (St Marys-Darwin) – 66cm
Jed Adcock (North Ballarat Rebels) – 64cm
Luke Buckland (Geelong Falcons) – 63cm
Farren Ray (Peel Thunder) – 63cm
Joel Campbell (Pioneers-Alice Springs) – 62cm
Chris Stewart (Northern Knights) – 62cm
Ricky Dyson (Northern Knights) – 61cm
Ben Clifton (Calder Cannons) – 61cm
Kane Tenace (Murray Bushrangers) – 61cm
Alex Gilmour (Tassie Mariners) – 61cm

Vertical jump (running – right leg)
Tom Logan (Waratahs-Darwin) – 82m
Jake Furfaro (Mt Gravatt) – 82m
Andrew Walker (Bendigo Pioneers) – 82cm
Colin Sylvia (Bendigo Pioneers) – 80cm
Leigh Ryswyk (Southport) – 79cm
Alex Gilmour (Tassie Mariners) – 79cm
Jason Whitehead (Woodville West Torrens) – 78cm
Raphael Clarke (St Marys-Darwin) – 77cm
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 77cm
Farren Ray (Peel Thunder) – 77cm

Vertical jump (running – left leg)
Jason Whitehead (Woodville West Torrens) – 88cm
Colin Sylvia (Bendigo Pioneers) – 88cm
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 86cm
Jacob Surjan (South Fremantle) – 81cm
Brent Stanton (Northern Knights) – 81cm
Luke Buckland (Geelong Falcons) – 80cm
Zac Dawson (Calder Cannons) – 79cm
Callum Burges (West Perth) – 79cm
Brett Jones (Claremont) – 79cm
Josh Bartel (Murray Bushrangers) – 77cm
Jake Furfaro (Mt Gravatt) – 77cm
Farren Ray (Peel Thunder) – 77cm
Darren Brackenridge (North Adelaide) – 77cm

Shuttle Run (beep test)
Farren Ray (Peel Thunder) – Level 15 Shuttle 3
Andrew Walker (Bendigo Pioneers) – 14.11
Ricky Dyson (Northern Knights) – 14.7
Tom Logan (Waratahs-Darwin) – 14.6
Daniel McConnell (Eastern Ranges) – 14.6
Luke Peel (Sandringham Dragons) – 14.5
Luke Buckland (Geelong Falcons) – 14.4
Leigh Ryswyk (Southport) – 14.4
Brock McLean (Calder Cannons) – 14.4
Brent Stanton (Northern Knights) – 14.2
Bill Morrison (Tassie Mariners) – 14.2
Adam Bentick (Calder Cannons) – 14.1
Ryan Murphy (Gippsland Power) – 13.13

I get the feeling a dud like Whitehead will get drafted just because he shows a bit of jumping ability.

 

[Jerome]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18

I get the feeling a dud like Whitehead will get drafted just because he shows a bit of jumping ability.

That's just what I was thinking! As long as we don't get him I will be happy.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I got his snippet from the article from Herald Sun

Adelaide recruiting manager James Fantasia believed Ray had been the outstanding athlete, but said the standard had been high during the three days.

"Farren Ray did a great job with the shuttle run. He progressed to league footy from being an AIS kid so he's had an amazing show of development," Fantasia said.

"I think overall the standards have been pretty reasonable and there's a few taller kids that are quite athletic with some real athletic prowess.

"There's probably half a dozen that have put their hand up to confirm where they are in the draft. Adam Cooney's not here but he would have been exciting to have a look at as well."

Looks like Fanto has been keeping an eye on a few talls..

Way to go Fanto. Make those picks count

I would really like us to pick sup Chris Stewart as a project player. The bloke has got so much upside and potetential. He could be anything, from Chris Tarrant to Daniel Schell but never the less worth a punt.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Another one from the Herald Sun about top 10 prospects


1. Adam Cooney
Club: West Adelaide
Age: 18
Height: 186cm Weight: 81kg
"All indications are that Adam Cooney will be No. 1, that's what we're hearing. He's more developed than a lot of the boys in terms of his body and his size. He's played league football against men, he's footy smart, he's got a good turn of speed. He's a good package." Richmond recruiting manager, Greg Beck.

2. Kane Tenace
Club: Murray Bushrangers
Age: 18
Height: 181cm Weight: 80kg
"Absolute super pace. Breaks up the play with his pace. He's played some terrific footy with the Bushrangers and played very well for Vic Country." St Kilda recruiting manager, John Beveridge.

3. Ryley Dunn
Club: Murray Bushrangers
Age: 17
Height: 182cm Weight: 80kg
"He's really competitive, he's got a good strong body. He's played at an elite level for two years now and has handled it really well. He's got leadership capabilities and he's really determined. But it's mainly his competitive nature which will help him get through." Melbourne recruiting manager, Craig Cameron.

4. Colin Sylvia
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Age: 17
Height: 183cm Weight: 82kg
"He's super competitive, an extremely good mark, kicks the ball really well and really applies himself with great determination every time he plays. He's had to overcome a bit of injury to do as well as he has." John Beveridge.

5. Andrew Walker
Club: Bendigo Pioneers
Age: 17
Height: 186cm Weight: 83kg
"Walker's camp results have been terrific. His last six months of footy have been fantastic. He's come from an AIS background and he's bottom-age." Adelaide recruiting manager, James Fantasia.

6. Raphael Clarke
Club: St Marys-Darwin
Age: 18
Height: 189cm Weight: 78kg
"Raph's a great kid and he's got a lot to offer. He's been in the system for a little while now through the AIS program last year. His national championships weren't as good as he probably would have liked, but a lot of his lead-up stuff was very good. I suspect he'll be a first-round draft pick." James Fantasia.

7. Farren Ray
Club: Peel Thunder
Age: 17
Height: 181cm Weight: 73kg
"Farren's really quick, he's got cat-like movements. He played soccer until he was about 14 and I think that's helped his balance. He's got good hands and doesn't fumble at all. Farren's a good player, he'll go pretty early." Craig Cameron.

8. Kepler Bradley
Club: West Perth
Age: 17
Height: 198cm Weight: 88kg
"He has enormous endurance and probably plays a bit more like a 6ft 5in midfield type rather than a ruckman/key-position player at this stage. He's genuine size, finds the footy a lot and he's done quite well with West Perth in the seniors late in the season." John Beveridge.

9. Brock McLean
Club: Calder Cannons
Age: 17
Height: 182cm Weight: 86kg
"McLean's really come through in the finals. He's cleary demonstrated that he'd be an excellent inside midfielder. He's a powerful leader and plays well when it counts. He's one that's gone up during the finals." Hawthorn recruiting manager, John Turnbull.

10. Troy Chaplin
Club: North Ballarat Rebels
Age: 17
Height: 193cm Weight: 85kg
"Troy Chaplin's had a fantastic year, winning the Barrassi Medal over in Ireland. Troy's also a bottom-age tall, which makes it harder to see where he's going to go because talls take a bit longer. But he'll come through and play AFL footy and he'll be a good AFL player." Kangaroos recruiting manager, Neville Stibbard.


I like the sound of Brock McLean. Just what the doctor ordered for the miidfield stocks.

Bit surprised that Fergus Watts is not rated up there. I would have him before Chaplin.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Jerome
Eddie Sansbury
age 19
height 180
weight 85

I'd love it if we got him!

That cocky little sh|t was fantastic today. He needs to develop a bit more but I would definetly look at him in the rookie draft

 

[Stiffy_18]

I got this snippet from The Age. Its god to see that Fanto has got our priorities right


James Fantasia
(Adelaide)

In the job: for nine years at the Crows

Football background: played SANFL football for Norwood (under Neil Balme) and Woodville (under Malcolm Blight). State development manager for the SANFL.

Prized picks: "In my first year we drafted Kane Johnson at No. 27 and got Simon Goodwin in the pre-season draft, so they stand out a bit. I was always surprised that Brett Burton got through to No. 16 and we got Graham Johncock at No. 64."

This year: "I just think we've got to improve in all areas. Hopefully we don't go to the draft with excessive picks. It would be good to get some tall players on to the list to support our rucking division and our key-position division at both ends."

The pool: "The draft is always exciting. People can talk it up or down but there's a group of kids who will come through and play and become household AFL names."

All I can say is use them wisely Fanto

 

[naughty monkey]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Draft Camp results
2003 National AFL draft camp results

Agility
...
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 8.23
...

20-metre sprint
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 2.85
...

Vertical jump (standing)
Colin Sylvia (Bendigo Pioneers) – 71cm
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 70cm
...

Vertical jump (running – right leg)
...
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 77cm
...

Vertical jump (running – left leg)
...
Michael Pettigrew (West Perth) – 86cm
...

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Michael Pettigrew
West Perth
Mar 16, 85
192
80
28
Tall, outside defender or forward who has good agility and speed for his size. Has excellent recovery and great below the knees. AIS-AFL Academy member in 2002. From Whitford FC.

is this bloke any good?

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by naughty monkey
is this bloke any good?

I have no idea but by hell he is a fantastic athlete.

I have a feeling he would be more of a project player. A bit like Jericho with the Crows. Good athlete but needs do develop his footy skills

 

[naughty monkey]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I have no idea but by hell he is a fantastic athlete.

I have a feeling he would be more of a project player. A bit like Jericho with the Crows. Good athlete but needs do develop his footy skills

hmmm...

the athletic ability is what made me notice him (a quick check had him feature in all areas 'cept the beep test), but the part that caught my eye was the "...and great below the knees". That is always a sign of a player with good hands, and that's the sign of a bloody good player, imo.

 

[RaDaR ReiLLy]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
14
Josh Moore
Eastern Ranges
Sep 7, 85
190
77
23
Medium, outside utility and a good overhead mark who reads the game well. Good defensive skills. From Scoresby FC.

Just thought i'd bring this up and mention that Josh Moore is actually a cousin of Reilly's.

Stiffy, your probably the man to ask about this: Would we at all be interested in him?

I doubt we would because he's a midfielder and we have stacks of them.

Wouldnt have to worry about him getting homesick if he has his cousin around the club!!

 

[DaveW]

Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by RaDaR ReiLLy
Wouldnt have to worry about him getting homesick if he has his cousin around the club!!

Didn't we draft Handby for a similar reason?

 

[RaDaR ReiLLy]

Re: Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by DaveW
Didn't we draft Handby for a similar reason?

who was he related to?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by RaDaR ReiLLy
who was he related to?

No one that I am aware of, but was best mates with Angwin (they played together in the U/18's).

 

[RaDaR ReiLLy]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
No one that I am aware of, but was best mates with Angwin (they played together in the U/18's).

pfft! Angwin
What a great role model he was for young Handby

 

[Stiffy_18]

Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by RaDaR ReiLLy
Just thought i'd bring this up and mention that Josh Moore is actually a cousin of Reilly's.

Stiffy, your probably the man to ask about this: Would we at all be interested in him?

I doubt we would because he's a midfielder and we have stacks of them.

Wouldnt have to worry about him getting homesick if he has his cousin around the club!!

To be honest, I have no idea. I think you might be better off checking the profiles of Eastern Rangers player likely to be drafted on Draft Board. GOALden Hawk has watched a lot of TAC Cup games and he does those profiles.

I doubt we would be interested in a midfielder and if we are it would likely be one of the SA boys with our 2nd pick. If we are after a midfielder I would love Willoughby. That boy can play.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Draft Camp: Players Invited

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
No one that I am aware of, but was best mates with Angwin (they played together in the U/18's).

Correct.

What a waste of pick both of those boys were.