List Mgmt. Draft Discussion 2016

[SaintRick88]

Fellow Saints boarders... let us pray...

Our Trout in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy draft come, thy will be done, in Sydney as it is at Moorabbin.

Give us our Begley, our yearly gun, and forgive us our melts, as we forgive those who melt against us.

Lead us not into a project player, but deliver us from 9th. For thine is the skill, the power & the glory, now and in 2017.

Amen.

What's your dream result Barrels?

 

[Barrels]

What's your dream result Barrels?

Outside of Beggers, I genuinely don't know.

Ask me at the time depending on who's left.

 

[SaintRick88]

Outside of Beggers, I genuinely don't know.

Ask me at the time depending on who's left.

I fully intent to mate! Begley at 36 then?

 

[Barrels]

I fully intent to mate! Begley at 36 then?

Word I have is he goes earlier than expected. Like mid-20s.

 

[StCicatriz]

Have you ever seen a WA player you don't like?!

Hehehe i do have a soft spot for them having said that heaps of em!!!!! I reckon the worst "footballer" i have ever seen is from WA. The 2nd worst also from WA.

I also think WA prospects are usually under rated

 

[StCicatriz]

View attachment 311872

I woke up this image. Now violently ill

 

[StCicatriz]

Anyone watch the replay of Judd vs O'Loughlin under 18's All Stars?
Powell-Pepper set shot from 60mt. out, definite goal (blind umpire), looks like his kicking is better than expected.

You should have seen the other goals he has kicked this year. Just wow! Were not flukes either

 

[StCicatriz]

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/s...s-tiger-matt-guelfi-made-the-afl-draft-grade/

I really like this kid. Would be an excellent back end pick or rookie selection

 

[Ads734]

alike the look of oscar junker 193 movesvery well has scope to bemassive unit. He kind of plays simmilar to david myers and across half back rminds me of a young tom barras

 

[Yabadoo22]

I have a feeling that someone we all rate highly on here (florent, veneables, etc)
Will get to our pick (every year there is 1 or 2 sliders) and we will overlook them for someone left field that we didn't see coming

 

[StCicatriz]

Spp article
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/s...lded-sam-powell-pepper-into-a-football-beast/

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Want SPP but worried about go home factor.
Agree dream result would be florent or venables.
But reality is I think its between Battle CCox or SPP. Any of those 3 would be fantastic. All highly skilled.
Ameet and co are awesome I have complete faith theyll pick correctly with great analysis. Exciting to see which one of the three has ticked all our boxes.

I'd see the risk of Florent or Venables not making it as an AFL player as higher than the SPP go home risk. I have real problems getting excited about those two.
And unless the "going home" happens in the awkward time between being drafted and making the squad, you'd typically get something for it.
Adelaide got pick 9 and pick 28 for their 2008 pick 20.

Of course the club get to interview him, and if they identify a strong "go home" factor they will likely take it into consideration.

 

[Melksham2Siposs]

Word I have is he goes earlier than expected. Like mid-20s.

Watched his highlights. Think you've got a winner there.

Struggling to think of a comparison, as he looks like a slightly undersized KP match winning, gifted, one-on-one bull forward with the nous of a crumber.

Membrey crossed with Petracca?

You tell me mate.

 

[Quixote]

Outside of Beggers, I genuinely don't know.

Ask me at the time depending on who's left.

Some people on the Bombers board hypothesising Begley is their smokey at 20.

 

[Barrels]

Watched his highlights. Think you've got a winner there.

Struggling to think of a comparison, as he looks like a slightly undersized KP match winning, gifted, one-on-one bull forward with the nous of a crumber.

Membrey crossed with Petracca?

You tell me mate.

Membtracca has been what I've been going with...

Some people on the Bombers board hypothesising Begley is their smokey at 20.

BA said the same... along with Cats, Norf, Port after us...

 

[Joffaboy]

White slipped to 40 last year Gresh to 14.
There are always sliders and we will pick one up at 23 and possibly one @ 36

 

[Quixote]

BA said the same... along with Cats, Norf, Port after us...

Maybe they can all pick him and he swaps teams every fortnight. Could work.

 

[Flandersss]

Membtracca has been what I've been going with...

BA said the same... along with Cats, Norf, Port after us...

Do we pull the trigger at 23?

36 I don't have an issue with..

 

[aussierulesrules]

Not sure where they got this from, but someone posted this on the D&T board, it's the Pelican's top 20:

1. Andrew McGrath
POS: Midfielder, Ht 179cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 2/6/98

From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "To us, he didn't put a foot wrong all year. He played in so many positions – he can be a genuine midfielder, a run-with player and even troubleshoot in defence or push forward and create. His versatility makes him the most valuable player."

2. Hugh McCluggage
POS: Midfielder, Ht 185cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/3/1998
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "What's ideal about Hugh is that he's a goalkicking midfielder and they are few and far between. He can go inside and outside and things seem to happen after he's had the ball."

3. Jack Bowes
POS: Midfielder, Ht 187cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 26/1/98
From Gold Coast Academy/Queensland
Pelchen says: "Jack is such a smooth mover. Everything he does is normally right and we've looked at him closely this year and he's rarely played a bad game. He's a modern day midfielder and for that reason we've got him rated higher than many people have."

4. Will Setterfield
POS: Midfielder, Ht 190cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "While he had his injury interruptions, we believe he can play any role through the midfield and he can go forward or back if need be. He's got outstanding character and we've got no doubt GWS are going to end up with a fantastic player."

5. Jack Scrimshaw
POS: Defender/midfielder, Ht 194cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 4/9/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Jack is an incredibly talented and creative player who can play at half-back and may push into the midfield at some stage. We have him rated this highly because of the way he uses the ball and controls the game from defence."

6. Tim Taranto
POS: Midfielder, Ht 186cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 28/1/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Tim has really shot up the calculations and it's not hard to see why. He can play in the midfield or up forward. He's hard at the footy and makes things happen. He's good above his head and he's going to be a really impressive AFL footballer."

7. Sam Petrevski-Seton
POS: Midfield/half-forward, Ht 181cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 19/2/98
From Claremont/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "He's a Rolls Royce and a player who's easy to watch. He's a smooth performer and uses the ball well. He'll need to keep his work rate up and I'm sure clubs will stress that to him, hence why he's a better player under pressure."

8. Ben Ainsworth
POS: Small forward, Ht 179cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 10/2/98
From Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "Ben's a player who has been a solid performer over the last three years. He's hard at the footy, he can play inside midfield and he can play as a talented, dynamic small forward. He's a very hard player to match up on."

9. Harry Perryman
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 184cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 19/12/98
From Collingullie-GP/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "He's not as pretty to watch as others but he's just so efficient in what he gets done. He uses the ball extremely well and he's exactly what the Giants need – guys who can play one-on-one football."

10. Will Brodie
POS: Midfielder, Ht 189cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 23/8/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a very competitive kid and he's someone we rate highly as a person. Will's a very safe selection. He's very disciplined in the way he approaches his game and he's meticulous in the way he prepares for his football."

11. Jy Simpkin
POS: Half-forward/midfielder, Ht 181cm, Wt 71kg, DOB 5/3/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's dynamic and he does catch your eye. Despite breaking his leg early in the season, he plays his footy with real spirit and he's a guy that doesn't get caught often because he uses the footy so quickly and efficiently."

12. Tim English
POS: Ruckman/tall forward, Ht 204cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 10/8/97
From South Fremantle/Western Australia
Pelchen says: He's a difficult one to place because he's such a raw talent. At 204cm, to have that sort of agility and ground coverage means he's a very attractive option for clubs. Not many clubs choose ruckmen in the first round of the draft, but I think English will buck that trend."

13. Alex Witherden
POS: Half-back, Ht 189cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 10/9/98
From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "The best is yet to be seen out of Alex and we've had to take his injury into account (a broken leg that wiped out his 2016 season). If he'd played the whole year he would have been even higher – he's just got such composure with the footy."

14. Jarrod Berry
POS: Midfield/half-back, Ht 191cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a tough, rebounding defender and gets the footy and goes. To have the endurance level he's got means he's going to be able to play on talls and smalls. We really like the run and risk he plays with."

15. Oliver Florent
POS: Midfielder/Half-forward, Ht 183cm, WT 74kg, DOB 22/7/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "A player who came up the order later in the year, like he did for most clubs. He can play in so many spots forward of centre, he's a very attractive option. It's getting more difficult to pick midfielders who can rest up forward and kick goals, but this guy can."

16. Griffin Logue
POS: Key defender, Ht 194cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 13/4/98
From Swan Districts/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "This is one lad, because he isn't a midfielder, who will attract a lot of interest. He's got such good athleticism. To run with the endurance at 194cm that he has, means that he'll be able to play on those modern day AFL star forwards."

17. Jordan Gallucci
POS: Midfielder, Ht 183cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/5/98
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He gets varying opinions across clubs, but for us his athleticism means that you're really going to be able to mould this player into what you want. He can jump and he can run – he's a true athlete – and he'll be able to go forward, after stints in the midfield, and be a marking option."

18. Daniel Venables
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 81kg, DOB 19/11/98
From Western Jets/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a player who's polarised opinions a little. His natural aggression is something that appeals to AFL clubs and his championships form was excellent. But he's had injuries so there is a little risk there. That ferocity at the footy won't leave you wondering what he's going to do."

19. Will Hayward
POS: Half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 26/10/98

From North Adelaide/South Australia
Pelchen says: "He is exciting because he can kick goals. As a forward, he's dangerous in the air and he's dangerous on the ground. He can rush his disposal a little bit but we wouldn't be surprised at all if someone picked him earlier because of his talent."

20. Jordan Ridley
POS: Tall defender, Ht 192cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 20/10/98
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a bit higher than some clubs may have had him but he's a player who has real upside. Anyone who can kick the ball as well as Jordan, at his height, deserves this standing. He can play as a third tall defender or even on the wing if need be."

 

[StCicatriz]

New road to the draft podcast with gold coasts list manager:
Check this out on audioBoom: Road to the 2016 Draft - Ep. 31: Scott Clayton -

listen to this on Audioboo

 

[SaintRick88]

Not sure where they got this from, but someone posted this on the D&T board, it's the Pelican's top 20:

1. Andrew McGrath
POS: Midfielder, Ht 179cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 2/6/98

From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "To us, he didn't put a foot wrong all year. He played in so many positions – he can be a genuine midfielder, a run-with player and even troubleshoot in defence or push forward and create. His versatility makes him the most valuable player."

2. Hugh McCluggage
POS: Midfielder, Ht 185cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/3/1998
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "What's ideal about Hugh is that he's a goalkicking midfielder and they are few and far between. He can go inside and outside and things seem to happen after he's had the ball."

3. Jack Bowes
POS: Midfielder, Ht 187cm, Wt 78kg, DOB 26/1/98
From Gold Coast Academy/Queensland
Pelchen says: "Jack is such a smooth mover. Everything he does is normally right and we've looked at him closely this year and he's rarely played a bad game. He's a modern day midfielder and for that reason we've got him rated higher than many people have."

4. Will Setterfield
POS: Midfielder, Ht 190cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From Sandringham Dragons/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "While he had his injury interruptions, we believe he can play any role through the midfield and he can go forward or back if need be. He's got outstanding character and we've got no doubt GWS are going to end up with a fantastic player."

5. Jack Scrimshaw
POS: Defender/midfielder, Ht 194cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 4/9/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Jack is an incredibly talented and creative player who can play at half-back and may push into the midfield at some stage. We have him rated this highly because of the way he uses the ball and controls the game from defence."

6. Tim Taranto
POS: Midfielder, Ht 186cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 28/1/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "Tim has really shot up the calculations and it's not hard to see why. He can play in the midfield or up forward. He's hard at the footy and makes things happen. He's good above his head and he's going to be a really impressive AFL footballer."

7. Sam Petrevski-Seton
POS: Midfield/half-forward, Ht 181cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 19/2/98
From Claremont/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "He's a Rolls Royce and a player who's easy to watch. He's a smooth performer and uses the ball well. He'll need to keep his work rate up and I'm sure clubs will stress that to him, hence why he's a better player under pressure."

8. Ben Ainsworth
POS: Small forward, Ht 179cm, Wt 74kg, DOB 10/2/98
From Gippsland Power/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "Ben's a player who has been a solid performer over the last three years. He's hard at the footy, he can play inside midfield and he can play as a talented, dynamic small forward. He's a very hard player to match up on."

9. Harry Perryman
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 184cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 19/12/98
From Collingullie-GP/GWS Academy/NSW-ACT
Pelchen says: "He's not as pretty to watch as others but he's just so efficient in what he gets done. He uses the ball extremely well and he's exactly what the Giants need – guys who can play one-on-one football."

10. Will Brodie
POS: Midfielder, Ht 189cm, Wt 82kg, DOB 23/8/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a very competitive kid and he's someone we rate highly as a person. Will's a very safe selection. He's very disciplined in the way he approaches his game and he's meticulous in the way he prepares for his football."

11. Jy Simpkin
POS: Half-forward/midfielder, Ht 181cm, Wt 71kg, DOB 5/3/98
From Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's dynamic and he does catch your eye. Despite breaking his leg early in the season, he plays his footy with real spirit and he's a guy that doesn't get caught often because he uses the footy so quickly and efficiently."

12. Tim English
POS: Ruckman/tall forward, Ht 204cm, Wt 86kg, DOB 10/8/97
From South Fremantle/Western Australia
Pelchen says: He's a difficult one to place because he's such a raw talent. At 204cm, to have that sort of agility and ground coverage means he's a very attractive option for clubs. Not many clubs choose ruckmen in the first round of the draft, but I think English will buck that trend."

13. Alex Witherden
POS: Half-back, Ht 189cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 10/9/98
From Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "The best is yet to be seen out of Alex and we've had to take his injury into account (a broken leg that wiped out his 2016 season). If he'd played the whole year he would have been even higher – he's just got such composure with the footy."

14. Jarrod Berry
POS: Midfield/half-back, Ht 191cm, Wt 80kg, DOB 5/2/98
From North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country
Pelchen says: "He's a tough, rebounding defender and gets the footy and goes. To have the endurance level he's got means he's going to be able to play on talls and smalls. We really like the run and risk he plays with."

15. Oliver Florent
POS: Midfielder/Half-forward, Ht 183cm, WT 74kg, DOB 22/7/98
From Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "A player who came up the order later in the year, like he did for most clubs. He can play in so many spots forward of centre, he's a very attractive option. It's getting more difficult to pick midfielders who can rest up forward and kick goals, but this guy can."

16. Griffin Logue
POS: Key defender, Ht 194cm, Wt 92kg, DOB 13/4/98
From Swan Districts/Western Australia
Pelchen says: "This is one lad, because he isn't a midfielder, who will attract a lot of interest. He's got such good athleticism. To run with the endurance at 194cm that he has, means that he'll be able to play on those modern day AFL star forwards."

17. Jordan Gallucci
POS: Midfielder, Ht 183cm, Wt 75kg, DOB 3/5/98
From Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He gets varying opinions across clubs, but for us his athleticism means that you're really going to be able to mould this player into what you want. He can jump and he can run – he's a true athlete – and he'll be able to go forward, after stints in the midfield, and be a marking option."

18. Daniel Venables
POS: Midfielder/half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 81kg, DOB 19/11/98
From Western Jets/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a player who's polarised opinions a little. His natural aggression is something that appeals to AFL clubs and his championships form was excellent. But he's had injuries so there is a little risk there. That ferocity at the footy won't leave you wondering what he's going to do."

19. Will Hayward
POS: Half-forward, Ht 186cm, Wt 76kg, DOB 26/10/98

From North Adelaide/South Australia
Pelchen says: "He is exciting because he can kick goals. As a forward, he's dangerous in the air and he's dangerous on the ground. He can rush his disposal a little bit but we wouldn't be surprised at all if someone picked him earlier because of his talent."

20. Jordan Ridley
POS: Tall defender, Ht 192cm, Wt 79kg, DOB 20/10/98
From Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
Pelchen says: "He's a bit higher than some clubs may have had him but he's a player who has real upside. Anyone who can kick the ball as well as Jordan, at his height, deserves this standing. He can play as a third tall defender or even on the wing if need be."

They got it from here: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-20/new-model-to-boost-future-recruiting-strategies

 

[StCicatriz]

Did scott clayton just let the cat out of the bag with pick 4? "Its only human nature you second guess yourself then you can come back to where you were at the start of the year no UH UH!"

2 mins in. I reckon he didnt mean to give that up.

Lock in SPS and Brodie i reckon

 

[Flandersss]

New road to the draft podcast with gold coasts list manager:
Check this out on audioBoom: Road to the 2016 Draft - Ep. 31: Scott Clayton -

listen to this on Audioboo

Anything noteworthy?

 

[ChrisRyanSaints]

I'd see the risk of Florent or Venables not making it as an AFL player as higher than the SPP go home risk. I have real problems getting excited about those two.
And unless the "going home" happens in the awkward time between being drafted and making the squad, you'd typically get something for it.
Adelaide got pick 9 and pick 28 for their 2008 pick 20.

Of course the club get to interview him, and if they identify a strong "go home" factor they will likely take it into consideration.

Wow. YeahI trust ameets theyve been awesome theyll know and ill be excited whoever we pick.

 

[Grav]

alike the look of oscar junker 193 movesvery well has scope to bemassive unit. He kind of plays simmilar to david myers and across half back rminds me of a young tom barras

I think they only played him across the backline in the Judd vs O'Loughlin game, would have liked to see him have a run on the ball. Reckon he might just be the smokey in the field.