List Mgmt. Draft Discussion 2016

[Kildonan]

From Cal Twomey's 20 young guns
My man:

Jarrod Berry
Midfielder/half-back
191cm/80kg
5/2/98
North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country

Berry won All Australian honours last year for his work off half-back for Vic Country, but is likely to be pushed up the ground for this year's carnival. With his height, agility and strength, Berry is best as an inside midfielder who finds the ball and bursts away. He can also push forward to create an awkward match-up near goal or play across centre-half back, and has shown his leadership qualities over the past couple of years. Berry is one of a number of players in the mix as No.1 pick contenders.

 

[Barrels]

From Cal Twomey's 20 young guns
My man:

Jarrod Berry
Midfielder/half-back
191cm/80kg
5/2/98
North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country

Berry won All Australian honours last year for his work off half-back for Vic Country, but is likely to be pushed up the ground for this year's carnival. With his height, agility and strength, Berry is best as an inside midfielder who finds the ball and bursts away. He can also push forward to create an awkward match-up near goal or play across centre-half back, and has shown his leadership qualities over the past couple of years. Berry is one of a number of players in the mix as No.1 pick contenders.

Weird, because I've almost never seen him play as a midfielder.

I bow to Twomey's knowledge though.

 

[Barrels]

MASSIVE day out today for Muhammad Saad, brother of GC's Adam, lifting Calder to a win over the reigning premiers Oakleigh with a 7 goal haul.

Averaging 12 disposals (70% eff.), 2.125 tackles and 1.125 goals per game before today, he's an electric 186cm 80kg half forward.

Good 'value pick' with serious wheels.



EDIT: 14 disposals today (12 contested!) and 7.1 goals.

 

[crasha301]

MASSIVE day out today for Muhammad Saad, brother of GC's Adam, lifting Calder to a win over the reigning premiers Oakleigh with a 7 goal haul.

Averaging 12 disposals (70% eff.), 2.125 tackles and 1.125 goals per game before today, he's an electric 186cm 80kg half forward.

Good 'value pick' with serious wheels.

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Reckon he'd be there at our 3rd rounder?

 

[Barrels]

Reckon he'd be there at our 3rd rounder?

Possible. Having a good year, but not a big possession winner and hasn't caused a lot of chatter before today.

Would be more likely if we could get into the 2nd round.

 

[Kilroy]

Aggregating these 4 draft power rankings ....

· AFL Draft Central - 2016 Top 20 Rankings
· Brett Anderson – SEN Top 20
· Knightmare's AFL Draft Power Rankings: June
· Chris25’s - The Big Board

.... gives you this:

1.Macreadie (GWS Academy)
2.Bowes (Gold Coast Academy)
3.Petrevski-Seton
4.McCluggage
5.Brodie
6.Setterfield (GWS Academy)
7.Rotham
8.Ainsworth
9.Perryman (GWS Academy)
10.Allison (Brisbane Academy)
11.Scheer (Gold Coast Academy)
12.Simpkin
13.Venables
14.Berry
15.Marshall
16.Battle
17.McGrath
18.Mutch (GWS Academy)
19.Scharenberg
20.Parfitt

 

[austinnn]

My boy McCluggage flying high at No. 4 there.

You guys had better hope we don't select him or I won't ever stop with the luggage puns.


I

WILL

NEVER

STOP

 

[Barrels]

Possible. Having a good year, but not a big possession winner and hasn't caused a lot of chatter before today.

Would be more likely if we could get into the 2nd round.

BA says no main draft. Interesting, I would have thought someone would take the punt.

 

[crasha301]

BA says no main draft. Interesting, I would have thought someone would take the punt.

Decent rookie pick up then.

 

[gringo2011]

Aggregating these 4 draft power rankings ....

· AFL Draft Central - 2016 Top 20 Rankings
· Brett Anderson – SEN Top 20
· Knightmare's AFL Draft Power Rankings: June
· Chris25’s - The Big Board

.... gives you this:

1.Macreadie (GWS Academy)
2.Bowes (Gold Coast Academy)
3.Petrevski-Seton
4.McCluggage
5.Brodie
6.Setterfield (GWS Academy)
7.Rotham
8.Ainsworth
9.Perryman (GWS Academy)
10.Allison (Brisbane Academy)
11.Scheer (Gold Coast Academy)
12.Simpkin
13.Venables
14.Berry
15.Marshall
16.Battle
17.McGrath
18.Mutch (GWS Academy)
19.Scharenberg
20.Parfitt

There are some very nice players right up until 20. Jonty Scharenberg that late is as sweet as pie even with all the academy picks removed

 

[Kilroy]

There are some very nice players right up until 20. Jonty Scharenberg that late is as sweet as pie even with all the academy picks removed

Early days I know but it's interesting that whilst 2 of the players in that top 20 are Gold Coast academy players (potentially around picks 2 & 12), they currently have picks 4, 8, 21, 22, 23 & 27. Nice little block from 21 to 23 but I can't imagine they'd want to give any of that hat-trick away given the depth of the draft.

Here's how it stands right now for the first 2 rounds:

1.Essendon
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Fremantle
4. Gold Coast
5. Richmond
6. St Kilda
7. GWS (received from Collingwood in trade for Adam Treloar)
8. Gold Coast (received from Melbourne in exchange of picks)
9. Port Adelaide
10.Carlton
11. Adelaide
12. GWS
13. Western Bulldogs
14. West Coast
15. Hawthorn
16. GWS (received from Carlton in trade for Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Liam Sumner,originally from Geelong)
17. Sydney
18. North Melbourne

19. Essendon
20. Brisbane Lions
21. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle in a pick exchange)
22. Gold Coast
23. Gold Coast (received from Richmond in trade for Chris Yarran)
24. Brisbane Lions (received from St Kilda via Collingwood in trade for Nathan Freeman)
25. Collingwood
26. Melbourne
27. Gold Coast (received from Port Adelaide in trade for Charlie Dixon)
28. Carlton
29. GWS (received from Adelaide in trade for Curtly Hampton)
30. GWS
31. Western Bulldogs
32. West Coast
33. Hawthorn
34. Geelong
35. Sydney
36. North Melbourne

 

[Hayes4PM]

Aggregating these 4 draft power rankings ....

· AFL Draft Central - 2016 Top 20 Rankings
· Brett Anderson – SEN Top 20
· Knightmare's AFL Draft Power Rankings: June
· Chris25’s - The Big Board

.... gives you this:

1.Macreadie (GWS Academy)
2.Bowes (Gold Coast Academy)
3.Petrevski-Seton
4.McCluggage
5.Brodie
6.Setterfield (GWS Academy)
7.Rotham
8.Ainsworth
9.Perryman (GWS Academy)
10.Allison (Brisbane Academy)
11.Scheer (Gold Coast Academy)
12.Simpkin
13.Venables
14.Berry
15.Marshall
16.Battle
17.McGrath
18.Mutch (GWS Academy)
19.Scharenberg
20.Parfitt

Simpkin 12, Berry 14, Scharenberg 19. Not bad at all!

 

[Kilroy]

Simpkin 12, Berry 14, Scharenberg 19. Not bad at all!

If there's quality late in the first round it might be worth doing what we did last year and trade down if we can find a quality player and a pick from the same club.

 

[Joffaboy]

Aggregating these 4 draft power rankings ....

· AFL Draft Central - 2016 Top 20 Rankings
· Brett Anderson – SEN Top 20
· Knightmare's AFL Draft Power Rankings: June
· Chris25’s - The Big Board

.... gives you this:

1.Macreadie (GWS Academy)
2.Bowes (Gold Coast Academy)
3.Petrevski-Seton
4.McCluggage
5.Brodie
6.Setterfield (GWS Academy)
7.Rotham
8.Ainsworth
9.Perryman (GWS Academy)
10.Allison (Brisbane Academy)
11.Scheer (Gold Coast Academy)
12.Simpkin
13.Venables
14.Berry
15.Marshall
16.Battle
17.McGrath
18.Mutch (GWS Academy)
19.Scharenberg
20.Parfitt

I think it is disgusting and nearly corrupt how many academy players in the top 20 are available only to the plastic teams ( I know bids etc).
Its disgraceful and is making a mockery of the draft.

 

[Roadto2018]

Battle 4 goals early for VC, good for us if he continues to rise so a mid slips

 

[gringo2011]

I think it is disgusting and nearly corrupt how many academy players in the top 20 are available only to the plastic teams ( I know bids etc).
Its disgraceful and is making a mockery of the draft.

Even before the freebies they two have 5 picks in the top 16 picks. They then can trade out picks for academy kids to clubs for players and later draft picks. For example if they wanted a top player they could come with 2 first round picks for a player and three later picks back which can then be used as points to get a top 2 pick anyway. They actually benefit from raiding rather than taking picks on face value. It's a shame we don't have anything to trade out.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Geez if one of Marshall or Battle sneak in to the top 5 (or some other bolter, which usually happens) and we stay where we are, then we're a good chance to snag one of SPS, Brodie or McLuggage. That'd be a super result in my opinion. If we can't see one of these three slipping to us, I'd love for us to trade down (I'm looking at you, Caleb Marchbank) to that 15-20 range and pick up a Simpkin or Venables, maybe even a Rotham. Good year to finish outside the bottom three, not so good a year to not have a second rounder.

 

[Defacto]

Berry strong intercept mark. Plays on gets caught holding the ball. No talk.
Poor exit out of the backline. Farrell caught holding the ball.
Shai bolton good goal from pocket near 50. Has speed
Guelfi good clearance
Narkle sloppy ground ball pick up
Guelfi nice roving goal
Guelfi seriously cracks in
Strand good mark shit turn over
Waterman is a solid size hits it hard
Jok has good closing speed. Disposal better than expected
Battle two goals in two mins. Stood up in tackle for a snapping one
Battle soccers it through from the pocket. Unbelievable

2nd
Jok good read of the ball
Battle with a leading mark. 4th goal. Unbelievable
Narkle struggles inside
Bolton has some serious speed and agility. Reads it well. Natural footballer
Strand is tapping them well. Good set play for a goal. Piper? Poor defence
Williamson squibbed it
Strand marks and goals from set shot dead in front 40m put
Young selfish play on and tackled for holding by jok. 50m
Blair good contested mark
Powell pepper poor tackle
Logue good contested intercept mark in d50
English great kick
Bolton again with a good goal 40m in front on the run
Strand is troubling vic countries defence
Logue another good cont int mark
Blake poor turn over kicking out in defence
Fowler good crumbing goal
Vic country poor defence and reading of ball. Costs them a good to PP
Vic country just not tackling or cracking in with the intensity of WA
Jok good pick up and disposal
Good lunging defencive pressure tackle from kirby
Baker good clearance. Bad disposal
Clarke 3 on 1 and gets the ball up
Worpel bad kick
Blair reported for late hit and 50
Russell poor miss 40m in front
Guelfi poor high hit in marking contest. Smothers set shot from berry. Well done.
Narkle poor kick


Wa 8.4.52
Vic country 7.1.43

 

[Defacto]

Bolton battle and strand the stand outs

 

[Defacto]

3rd
Mckay spilled easy mark
Levein bad kick out turn over to battle. Set shot. 50m pocket. Behind
Jake waterman bad kick
Meek good mark
Poh good crumbing goal
Brodie pushed off it far too easily
Fisher amazing kick sets up play that results in a goal
PP amazing snap goal from the pocket
Wright great running goal from 50
Wa 12.8 80
Vic 9.4 58

4th
PP great goal on the run from just inside 50 slight angle
Fisher good clearance and pass
Baker good mark
Strand great goal
Guelfi reported for high tackle
PP great smother
English miss from 50 on pocket
Baker goals on the run slight angle from 50
Baker great pass
Young poor kick
Mccluggage poor kick
Guelfi is fearless
Fullgrabe great mark
Baker reliable set shot goal
WA 105 vs 58
Narkle plays smaller than he is
Great mark bolton. Poor kick. Good defencive punch as ball rebounds. Creates a goal. Plays taller than he is with a leap. Very quick
Zurhaar great set shot goal
Patmore good run through traffic
Jok great mark. Stand out for a badly beaten VC. Set shot slight angle 40m. Goal
Clarke great kick in 50
Waterman set shot 30m in front. Misses. Doesnt work hard enough
Guelfi massive tackle. Stands up tackled by 3.
PP drops easy mark
Waterman drinking his own bath water after a raffled goal under no pressure
Kirby just murdered baker in a massive hit. Down for a long time checking neck and skull. He's up but concussed. Credit to him didnt take his eye off the ball
Waterman misses 10m out on an angle
Great clearance narkle
Great mark strand and goal
Waterman good running mark
Massive WA win

 

[Defacto]

Missed a fair chunk of the 3rd due to the coffee line. Looked like all of the main saints recruiters were there. Ive come away feeling really good about this draft. Going to be some guys that will really suit us at our pick

Def deeper than last year

 

[St Pauls]

Early days I know but it's interesting that whilst 2 of the players in that top 20 are Gold Coast academy players (potentially around picks 2 & 12), they currently have picks 4, 8, 21, 22, 23 & 27. Nice little block from 21 to 23 but I can't imagine they'd want to give any of that hat-trick away given the depth of the draft.

Here's how it stands right now for the first 2 rounds:

1.Essendon
2. Brisbane Lions
3. Fremantle
4. Gold Coast
5. Richmond
6. St Kilda
7. GWS (received from Collingwood in trade for Adam Treloar)
8. Gold Coast (received from Melbourne in exchange of picks)
9. Port Adelaide
10.Carlton
11. Adelaide
12. GWS
13. Western Bulldogs
14. West Coast
15. Hawthorn
16. GWS (received from Carlton in trade for Lachie Plowman, Jed Lamb, Andrew Phillips, Liam Sumner,originally from Geelong)
17. Sydney
18. North Melbourne

19. Essendon
20. Brisbane Lions
21. Gold Coast (received from Fremantle in a pick exchange)
22. Gold Coast
23. Gold Coast (received from Richmond in trade for Chris Yarran)
24. Brisbane Lions (received from St Kilda via Collingwood in trade for Nathan Freeman)
25. Collingwood
26. Melbourne
27. Gold Coast (received from Port Adelaide in trade for Charlie Dixon)
28. Carlton
29. GWS (received from Adelaide in trade for Curtly Hampton)
30. GWS
31. Western Bulldogs
32. West Coast
33. Hawthorn
34. Geelong
35. Sydney
36. North Melbourne

Would love to get that pick 16 from GWS!

 

[Barrels]

2017 1st for Marchbank and Pick 16 this year?

Spend Pick 6 on Will Brodie and Pick 16 on best mid available (Gallucci, Simpkin, Poholke etc).

 

[_Maximus_12]

I don't care what we do with our first rounder as long as it nets us a premium midfielder.

 

[Roadto2018]

Taranto would be useful for our contested ball problem, saw him on the weekend and he's bulked up a lot since I last saw him, doesn't get brought to ground a trusted advisor commented to me from watching him all season, works his way out of traffic well and has good disposal while not being a super polished kick or anything, hits the scoreboard as well, probably isn't in our range though unless he shoots up drastically or we manage to get a pick in between our current ones