List Mgmt. Draft Discussion 2016

[Barrels]

I get he's speedy and can kick very well, but can he find the ball? Or is he just a receiver of the pill like Gaff? He didn't seem to get enough of it to go top 20 for me.

More of a receiver at this stage I think. He's a 20-25 type IMO.

 

[Glen Buterol]

More of a receiver at this stage I think.

So are you

 

[Barrels]

So are you

You said you'd buy me a PlayStation...

 

[Barrels]

First AFL Draft Central PD has gone live. Saints (me) took;

#9: Dan Venables - 186cm mid/fwd
#44: Josh Begley - 187cm fwd/mid
#62: Ari Sakeson - 190cm utility
#80: Taylin Duman - 193cm utility

Have at it troops; destroy.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

First AFL Draft Central PD has gone live. Saints (me) took;

#9: Dan Venables - 186cm mid/fwd
#44: Josh Begley - 187cm fwd/mid
#62: Ari Sakeson - 190cm utility
#80: Taylin Duman - 193cm utility

Have at it troops; destroy.

Any background on your final two boys and draft range?

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Nope.
That was a gaffe.

Takes a whole team to do that.

Zing!

I just think most kids that you would contemplate goving up a top 10 pick, plus extras potentially, would generally make a considerable difference. Shiel, Treloar, Kelly, (Danger!), etc - there's a gap IMO

 

[Barrels]

Any background on your final two boys and draft range?

Sakeson is a 190cm utility who's played FB at APS level, but recently moved up to the wing for Sandy Dragons. Got 22 possies and 4 clearances. Quick and agile but kicking needs some fine tuning.

Duman is a 193cm running utility. Good disposal but quite outside for a tall and needs a few summers in the gym. Takes the game on.

 

[St Pauls]

First AFL Draft Central PD has gone live. Saints (me) took;

#9: Dan Venables - 186cm mid/fwd
#44: Josh Begley - 187cm fwd/mid
#62: Ari Sakeson - 190cm utility
#80: Taylin Duman - 193cm utility

Have at it troops; destroy.

Power Mid/Forwards Boom!!

 

[Barrels]

Power Mid/Forwards Boom!!

Ultimately Venables becomes a dual role mid like Martin, Beggers a fwd/mid ala Crameri, and Duman and Sakeson both Roberton-style HB/wing types.

 

[Barrels]

FWIW, I think we likely trade that first pick the higher it rises...

 

[JG22]

First AFL Draft Central PD has gone live. Saints (me) took;

#9: Dan Venables - 186cm mid/fwd
#44: Josh Begley - 187cm fwd/mid
#62: Ari Sakeson - 190cm utility
#80: Taylin Duman - 193cm utility

Have at it troops; destroy.

Surprised Todd Marshall going #3
McGrath at 4 to the Suns i could see happening

 

[Kilroy]

Sakeson is a 190cm utility who's played FB at APS level, but recently moved up to the wing for Sandy Dragons. Got 22 rounds and 4 clearances. Quick and agile but kicking needs some fine tuning.

Duman is a 193cm running utility. Good disposal but quite outside for a tall and needs a few summers in the gym. Takes the game on.

Boxing or with a shotgun?

 

[Barrels]

Boxing or with a shotgun?

Choral.

 

[crasha301]

First AFL Draft Central PD has gone live. Saints (me) took;

#9: Dan Venables - 186cm mid/fwd
#44: Josh Begley - 187cm fwd/mid
#62: Ari Sakeson - 190cm utility
#80: Taylin Duman - 193cm utility

Have at it troops; destroy.

I like it

 

[saintscott]

Sakeson is a 190cm utility who's played FB at APS level, but recently moved up to the wing for Sandy Dragons. Got 22 possies and 4 clearances. Quick and agile but kicking needs some fine tuning.

why am I not shocked there are no 6 footers there
Duman is a 193cm running utility. Good disposal but quite outside for a tall and needs a few summers in the gym. Takes the game on.

 

[Barrels]

why am I not shocked there are no 6 footers there

Umm....

Venables: 186cm (6'1
Begley: 187cm (6'1)
Sakeson: 190cm (6'2)
Duman: 193cm (6'3)

Average height: 189cm (6'2)
Average weight: 80.75kg (12st 7)

 

[crasha301]

Umm....

Venables: 186cm - 6'1
Begley: 187cm - 6'1
Sakeson: 190cm - 6'2
Duman: 193cm - 6'3

Would definitely add some height to our list.

Saunders into venables
Murdoch into Begley
Fisher into ???
Shenton into ???

 

[Barrels]

Would definitely add some height to our list.

Saunders into venables
Murdoch into Begley
Fisher into ???
Shenton into ???

Delaney into Carlisle
Shenton into Duman
Fisher into Sakeson (more Roberton really)

 

[crasha301]

Delaney into Carlisle
Shenton into Sakeson
Fisher into Duman (more Roberton really)

Curren into ??

 

[Barrels]

Curren into ??

FWIW I changed my mind above, but Curren into O'Kearney.

[That draft] would leave the U23s;

FB: Rice - Goddard - McKenzie
HB: Sakeson - Coughlan (r) - White
RK: Pierce - Gresham - Dunstan
CR: Freeman - Acres - Billings
HF: Begley - Membrey - Sinclair
FF: Lonie - McCartin - Venables
IC: Minchington Templeton Wright Duman
EM: O'Kearney (r) Payne (r) Murdoch Saunders (r)

That's a pretty dangerous forward line IMO.

 

[Glen Buterol]

Barrels, what's the tarantula's stats like & has he been playing many mid minutes in the TAC?

 

[crasha301]

FWIW I changed my mind above, but Curren into O'Kearney.

[That draft] would leave the U23s;

FB: Rice - Goddard - McKenzie
HB: Sakeson - Coughlan (r) - White
RK: Pierce - Gresham - Dunstan
CR: Freeman - Acres - Billings
HF: Begley - Membrey - Sinclair
FF: Lonie - McCartin - Venables
IC: Minchington Templeton Wright Duman
EM: O'Kearney (r) Payne (r) Murdoch Saunders (r)

That's a pretty dangerous forward line IMO.

That bad at all.

 

[Ads734]

Worried that Venables cannot win enough ball..

 

[Barrels]

Barrels, what's the tarantula's stats like & has he been playing many mid minutes in the TAC?

If you go back a few pages he's the 'Option 2' of my little nameless hypothetical, and yes he has.

If I had my time over again, I may well have taken Taranto, but Venables' 'big moment' ability swayed it. As an example, VM would not have beaten VC at Geelong without the chase, multiple tackles and strong-bodied 1%ers he committed to get the ball to Brown for the goal.

Not everything is about stats.

 

[Glen Buterol]

If you go back a few pages he's the 'Option 2' of my little nameless hypothetical, and yes he has.

If I had my time over again, I may well have taken Taranto, but Venables' 'big moment' ability swayed it. As an example, VM would not have beaten VC at Geelong without the chase, multiple tackles and strong-bodied 1%ers he committed to get the ball to Brown for the goal.

Not everything is about stats.

Cheers. Agree not everything is about stats however it's a strong part of decision making especially when investing a top 10 pick.

Tananto averaging 26 touches & a goal a game is far superior to Vennables output. I realise there's a few factors you've mentioned here & on Twitter. But still, picking Taranto ahead of Vennables is a no-brainer for me.