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What're the knocks on him? Seems pretty similar to Petracca
OK, so I've just watched all 4 SPP videos on youtube (including the AFL one from a couple of days ago, which I really recommend if you want to learn a bit about him and hear from him- it sounds like Shifter for one is an unabashed fan- http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-01/tomorrows-heroes-sam-powellpepper-bigbodied-mid-ready-for-afl) and I think it's safe to say that I saw what MG was referring to when he said his kicking was terrible in his highlights package/s, as his kicking in two of those 4 is indeed very bloody ordinary. What MG might not have realised though is that those two vids (both WA v Vic Metro) are from last year (2015), so hopefully he's improved it a fair bit since then and I didn't think his kicking was noticeably bad in the two from this year (the AFL one and one v Allies) and he was the only one who got a perfect score in the goalkicking test at the combine, so maybe, like say Jarod Berry, his kicking has improved since last year and may have further improvement in it.
If it hasn't, you wouldn't pick him at 23, based on how he was kicking it last year and on the number of disposals he gets, but you certainly might if it's on the improve and looking like it could improve further.
If it is, I just want him. I'm just in love with his explosive linebreaking run and sidestep and his physicality and want it in our team, ASAP. I was also impressed with how he spoke. He seems like a quality character and I like that one of the things he said he'd bring to the table is leadership. Also said he'd be happy to go anywhere and said his dad is English, so I take it he's probably not from a a remote community, so would hopefully not have any massive issues adjusting to life in say Melbourne.
A couple of years ago I was mega-keen on Petracca, but when we got Paddy it meant that we missed out on all Petracca would have brought to the table, but I feel that if we were to get SPP he would give us at least a couple of the attributes that make CP as good as he is. He's not as good as Petracca- in particular he doesn't find as much of the ball, isn't as super-strong overhead and doesn't hit the scoreboard as heavily- but he's got the big, powerful body like CP, the elite agility, explosiveness and physicality and, like Sam, CP's biggest weakness in the juniors was probably his kicking. (In the U18's, CP had a poor DE and he tested very poorly in both the kicking and goalkicking tests at his combine. Like SPP, he is a powerful and long kick, but can certainly miss short targets in particular). So he could give us a fair bit of what we could have gotten from CP.
Think of how hard to tackle we could be as a team if we had all of Blacres, SPP, Gresham, Steele, Mav, Steven, D-Mac and Armo in our side!
If we were to get him, given that he's already got an AFL sized body (apparently about 187cm and 90kg!) and already has strong endurance, I would actually consider almost taking him out of normal training for the first couple of months of preseason and just get him to work on his kicking day after day, for a couple of months. Or, alternatively, whenever the two from Ireland are working specifically on their kicking, pull Sam out of the regular training group and get him to join them for their kicking sessions.
It might mean he doesn't play quite as much in his first year, but if it made him better in the long run, it could be very well worth it.
OK, so I've just watched all 4 SPP videos on youtube (including the AFL one from a couple of days ago, which I really recommend if you want to learn a bit about him and hear from him- it sounds like Shifter for one is an unabashed fan- http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-01/tomorrows-heroes-sam-powellpepper-bigbodied-mid-ready-for-afl) and I think it's safe to say that I saw what MG was referring to when he said his kicking was terrible in his highlights package/s, as his kicking in two of those 4 is indeed very bloody ordinary. What MG might not have realised though is that those two vids (both WA v Vic Metro) are from last year (2015), so hopefully he's improved it a fair bit since then and I didn't think his kicking was noticeably bad in the two from this year (the AFL one and one v Allies) and he was the only one who got a perfect score in the goalkicking test at the combine, so maybe, like say Jarod Berry, his kicking has improved since last year and may have further improvement in it.
If it hasn't, you wouldn't pick him at 23, based on how he was kicking it last year and on the number of disposals he gets, but you certainly might if it's on the improve and looking like it could improve further.
If it is, I just want him. I'm just in love with his explosive linebreaking run and sidestep and his physicality and want it in our team, ASAP. I was also impressed with how he spoke. He seems like a quality character and I like that one of the things he said he'd bring to the table is leadership. Also said he'd be happy to go anywhere and said his dad is English, so I take it he's probably not from a a remote community, so would hopefully not have any massive issues adjusting to life in say Melbourne.
A couple of years ago I was mega-keen on Petracca, but when we got Paddy it meant that we missed out on all Petracca would have brought to the table, but I feel that if we were to get SPP he would give us at least a couple of the attributes that make CP as good as he is. He's not as good as Petracca- in particular he doesn't find as much of the ball, isn't as super-strong overhead and doesn't hit the scoreboard as heavily- but he's got the big, powerful body like CP, the elite agility, explosiveness and physicality and, like Sam, CP's biggest weakness in the juniors was probably his kicking. (In the U18's, CP had a poor DE and he tested very poorly in both the kicking and goalkicking tests at his combine. Like SPP, he is a powerful and long kick, but can certainly miss short targets in particular). So he could give us a fair bit of what we could have gotten from CP.
Think of how hard to tackle we could be as a team if we had all of Blacres, SPP, Gresham, Steele, Mav, Steven, D-Mac and Armo in our side!
If we were to get him, given that he's already got an AFL sized body (apparently about 187cm and 90kg!) and already has strong endurance, I would actually consider almost taking him out of normal training for the first couple of months of preseason and just get him to work on his kicking day after day, for a couple of months. Or, alternatively, whenever the two from Ireland are working specifically on their kicking, pull Sam out of the regular training group and get him to join them for their kicking sessions.
It might mean he doesn't play quite as much in his first year, but if it made him better in the long run, it could be very well worth it.
Begs Begs Beggitty Begs...
Or you could just ask a guy that covered the Ranges all season...
I thought his pace, or at least acceleration, was a strength?
Really good post. Ive been saying for a long time now that people are still thinking of SPPs disposal from last year which was horrid but so was the entire WA sideOK, so I've just watched all 4 SPP videos on youtube (including the AFL one from a couple of days ago, which I really recommend if you want to learn a bit about him and hear from him- it sounds like Shifter for one is an unabashed fan- http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-01/tomorrows-heroes-sam-powellpepper-bigbodied-mid-ready-for-afl) and I think it's safe to say that I saw what MG was referring to when he said his kicking was terrible in his highlights package/s, as his kicking in two of those 4 is indeed very bloody ordinary. What MG might not have realised though is that those two vids (both WA v Vic Metro) are from last year (2015), so hopefully he's improved it a fair bit since then and I didn't think his kicking was noticeably bad in the two from this year (the AFL one and one v Allies) and he was the only one who got a perfect score in the goalkicking test at the combine, so maybe, like say Jarod Berry, his kicking has improved since last year and may have further improvement in it.
If it hasn't, you wouldn't pick him at 23, based on how he was kicking it last year and on the number of disposals he gets, but you certainly might if it's on the improve and looking like it could improve further.
If it is, I just want him. I'm just in love with his explosive linebreaking run and sidestep and his physicality and want it in our team, ASAP. I was also impressed with how he spoke. He seems like a quality character and I like that one of the things he said he'd bring to the table is leadership. Also said he'd be happy to go anywhere and said his dad is English, so I take it he's probably not from a a remote community, so would hopefully not have any massive issues adjusting to life in say Melbourne.
A couple of years ago I was mega-keen on Petracca, but when we got Paddy it meant that we missed out on all Petracca would have brought to the table, but I feel that if we were to get SPP he would give us at least a couple of the attributes that make CP as good as he is. He's not as good as Petracca- in particular he doesn't find as much of the ball, isn't as super-strong overhead and doesn't hit the scoreboard as heavily- but he's got the big, powerful body like CP, the elite agility, explosiveness and physicality and, like Sam, CP's biggest weakness in the juniors was probably his kicking. (In the U18's, CP had a poor DE and he tested very poorly in both the kicking and goalkicking tests at his combine. Like SPP, he is a powerful and long kick, but can certainly miss short targets in particular). So he could give us a fair bit of what we could have gotten from CP.
Think of how hard to tackle we could be as a team if we had all of Blacres, SPP, Gresham, Steele, Mav, Steven, D-Mac and Armo in our side!
If we were to get him, given that he's already got an AFL sized body (apparently about 187cm and 90kg!) and already has strong endurance, I would actually consider almost taking him out of normal training for the first couple of months of preseason and just get him to work on his kicking day after day, for a couple of months. Or, alternatively, whenever the two from Ireland are working specifically on their kicking, pull Sam out of the regular training group and get him to join them for their kicking sessions.
It might mean he doesn't play quite as much in his first year, but if it made him better in the long run, it could be very well worth it.
So have you seen much of him and has it improved considerably since last year?
So have you seen much of him and has it improved considerably since last year?
What's the talk about him over there? West Coast are meant to be pretty keen.
It was interesting that he was taking the kicking-in duties in one of those games v VM last year. It certainly doesn't say much for the rest of the team's kicking if that was the case. Be like Wrighty or Gears kicking in for us!
We've also got Bruce.
