Analysis Draft Hindsight Heroes v1 (2017)

[Pulsedriver]

A West Coast recruiter with a 2nd round pick is like a mule with a spinning wheel...

Head recruiter, John Burgess, with fellow recruitment staff, Technotronic, prefer the tried and true method of spin that wheel to select all of WC's 2nd rounders.

 

[Evil Eagle]

13 Brander very happy with this pick.

21 Allen. Not happy doesn’t fill a need and I don’t rate him.
I would have taken Tim Kelly.

26 Ryan. Happy maybe taken early.

32. Ainsworth. I would have drafted Worpel.

38 Petrucelli. Ok with me.

68 Brayshaw. Good selection.

 

[Milenko]

13 Brander very happy with this pick.

21 Allen. Not happy doesn’t fill a need and I don’t rate him.
I would have taken Tim Kelly.

26 Ryan. Happy maybe taken early.

32. Ainsworth. I would have drafted Worpel.

38 Petrucelli. Ok with me.

68 Brayshaw. Good selection.

Brander
Kelly
Ryan
Worpel
Petrucelle
Brayshaw

Would have been a pretty darn good outcome, with the only grievance the Ryan reach.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Head recruiter, John Burgess, with fellow recruitment staff, Technotronic, prefer the tried and true method of spin that wheel to select all of WC's 2nd rounders.

Impressive that a 20 year old is familiar with such an iconic group as Technotronic

 

[Pulsedriver]

Impressive that a 20 year old is familiar with such an iconic group as Technotronic

I love electronic music. Hence the name Pulsedriver. I'm currently listening to some DC Breaks from 2010.

 

[buddymania]

My selections if picking:

13 Jarrod Brander
21 Oscar Allen
26 James Worpel
32 Joel Garner
38 Mitchell Crowden
68 Jack Petrucelle
78 Ethan Floyd


Overall happy that we went for best available with Brander and Allen instead of needs. No mids slid to pick 13 apart from Higgins who I see more as a small pressure fwd at AFL level. Only one of Fogarty which would have been nice. Liam Ryan we should’ve rookied last year if we were interested...

 

[Carbine Chaos]

See it’s very easy to say we should have rookied Ryan last year, but all 18 clubs agreed that he wasn’t mentally nor physically ready for AFL. There were questions if he ever would be.

While we may have overpaid, Ryan not being picked up last year may end up a major factor in him becoming a better player than he would have otherwise. Perhaps it will all be worth it.

 

[LordHaart]

Did anyone else watch the draft live? Was interesting to see the discussions, especially during extra time. Looked like Rawlings might not have been all that happy about a few of our selections, gives me hope that we at least have a good mix of perspectives in there.

Overall, not really disappointed in the draft, but I feel like it indicates that we're really going for a post-JK, post-EMac build, I don't think we'll be going too deep into finals next year (if we make them at all), but on the flip side I think this might be the start of a good backbone for the 2020's and after seeing us try to sell the bank to get some short term needs filled (Wellingham, Redden, Jetta), I can live with missing Kelly and taking a longer view of things.

Lots of other teams passed on Worpel and Constable repeatedly so I'm not really upset about that. Can't say I would have done all that much differently in hindsight.

B from me, forward looking picks, we probably would have needed different draft picks to do much better over the long run.

 

[Suma Magic]

13. Higgins
21. Allen
26. Ryan
32. Constable
37. Petrucelle
68. Brayshaw

 

[darksquare]

I'm happy with Allen and Ryan, and would have wanted both. I might not have picked Brayshaw, but I like the selection.

I can see three decisions the club made that I would have made differently.

1. Brander over Higgins.
2. Ainsworth over Constable.
3. Petruccelle over Miers/Moore.
There is also a hypothetical - having passed on Higgins, maybe take Spargo and hope that Ryan is available later instead of Petruccelle.

But I have no reason to believe that my picks would be any better. Every player we chose has a plausible justification, so I won't be whining in future years.



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[ArdentEagle]

This is what I would have done with who was left on the board with each pick.
Really looking forward to looking back on this thread in 3-4 years to see how well/bad I would have done

13 Higgins
21 Allen
26 Ryan
32 Ballard
38 Worpel
68 Krueger
77 Schloithe

 

[archiemoses]

See it’s very easy to say we should have rookied Ryan last year, but all 18 clubs agreed that he wasn’t mentally nor physically ready for AFL. There were questions if he ever would be.

While we may have overpaid, Ryan not being picked up last year may end up a major factor in him becoming a better player than he would have otherwise. Perhaps it will all be worth it.

I don't get this logic, that is what the rookie list is for so he can develop and mature in the system. It's a free hit.

I can do the recruiters job if I don't have to project talent, I'll just wait until they prove themselves and recruit on exposed form. That's easy.

 

[ziad]

I don't get this logic, that is what the rookie list is for so he can develop and mature in the system. It's a free hit.

I can do the recruiters job if I don't have to project talent, I'll just wait until they prove themselves and recruit on exposed form. That's easy.

Thats says a lot when 18 clubs avoid a player

 

[archiemoses]

Thats says a lot when 18 clubs avoid a player

Says a lot when supporters on BigFooty can see what's AFL recruiters can't

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I don't get this logic, that is what the rookie list is for so he can develop and mature in the system. It's a free hit.

I can do the recruiters job if I don't have to project talent, I'll just wait until they prove themselves and recruit on exposed form. That's easy.

I am just musing that, perhaps, being looked over last year may have done Ryan more good than harm in the long run. It gave him the kick in the backside he needed that he may not have received had he been selected.

It’s a more positive way to look at things rather than the moaning over overlooking him.

 

[buddymania]

See it’s very easy to say we should have rookied Ryan last year, but all 18 clubs agreed that he wasn’t mentally nor physically ready for AFL. There were questions if he ever would be.

While we may have overpaid, Ryan not being picked up last year may end up a major factor in him becoming a better player than he would have otherwise. Perhaps it will all be worth it.

Literally the point of the rookie draft. Could have rookied him last year and he wouldn't have had any pressure on him and could've learned the game plans/level of training required from him at AFL level.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Literally the point of the rookie draft. Could have rookied him last year and he wouldn't have had any pressure on him and could've learned the game plans/level of training required from him at AFL level.

It’s not about pressure on him. It’s about his mental approach to his game.

Anyway, I see the merit of having taking him ahead of Gorter, but moaning about it won’t change anything now.

 

[Obeanie1]

13 Allen instead of Brander
21 L Fogarty
26 Worpel assuming Kelly gone
32 Ainsworth
38 Ryan
68 Brayshaw

Rookie Grigg, Kreuger and Orlando

Expect Worpel, Fogerty and Ryan to play games in 2018.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

13 Allen instead of Brander
21 L Fogarty
26 Worpel assuming Kelly gone
32 Ainsworth
38 Ryan
68 Brayshaw

Rookie Grigg, Kreuger and Orlando

I think there were lots of indications Ryan wouldn’t have lasted to 38.

 

[Obeanie1]

I think there were lots of indications Ryan wouldn’t have lasted to 38.

Swap him and Worpel then just think 26 was a reach and a bit oaf panic after Kelly was gone.

 

[MrKK]

Thats says a lot when 18 clubs avoid a player

In Ryan's case, the risk/reward model was totally different for the 16 non-WA clubs. It's understandable they would look elsewhere.

 

[tigger_ferret]

13. Brander: Neutral. I'm not especially sure he fills a need long-term, but I don't hate it. Personally I'd have opted for Higgins who appears to have plenty of footy smarts.

21. Allen: Very positive. We got a slider here and I think the only reason people are looking sideways at this pick is because we didn't have a bona fide mid in the preceding pick. Would have picked Allen.

26. Ryan: Negative by virtue of value. Constable here was a no-brainer for me.

32. Ainsworth: Neutral. I think we could have waited to 38 and I'd have been quite happy. I actually quite liked the look of Ballard and would have entertained him here. Worpel also would have been in my thinking.

38. Pettrucelle: Neutral. I don't have a problem with this pick per se, but - working on the assumption I had made the previous picks - I'd have felt okay about developing a ruck via Ben Miller. Maybe, maybe I could have lived with Ryan here.

68. Brayshaw: Great pick. Brayshaw.

Overall:

- Higgins
- Allen
- Constable
- Ballard
- Miller
- Brayshaw

Pretty much agree on everything, so saves me writing too much.

I’m more positive on Brander and hope he will be good, but wasn’t my first choice.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Swap him and Worpel then just think 26 was a reach and a bit oaf panic after Kelly was gone.

So take him at 32 and Ainsworth at 38

Net result = da same

 

[ArdentEagle]

ROYAL EAGLE Barney44 Monocle - Eastern Rangers And any one else who has seen a lot of WAFL footy.

Can you please give me your views on Ainsworth?
I know he was the leading U/18 player at clearances...Apart from this, do I have any reason to get excited.
Why he'd be a better choice than Worpel or Constable for that matter.

 

[footballfreak]

Will be interesting to see who has the better career, Brander or Higgins. I have a feeling it will be higgins