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Watched a You Tube package of his highlights.

He has some exciting attributes

- a spring heeled jack
- sticky hands
- pace
- fierce attack on the ball.

I could definitely see him filling a role as a key back.

Needs to improve his kicking and build up muscle.
 
You can find it on a thread in the Drafts and Trading Board.

I would guess that he would go 3rd or 4th round.

What is your opinion Ant555 ?
 

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I suspect thrid round maybe early fourth.
Had a great game in the Jets losing final. Took a heap of contested marks.
He reads the ball in flight really well. He has played some shockers this year as well but his best is very good. Has had to ruck a bit for the Jets this year but his spot will be KP most likely defence.
 
Should definately draft him 4th round if avaliable.
However i think pick 39 (which we just traded) will be around the mark he goes.
I played with Postie this year and can't find a weakness, tested very well; beep of around 14.02 and 3.02 20m.
Arguably the best hands in the TAC cup, very versatile and can literally play anywhere.
Recently took out the Jets B+F, very good leader and communicator on the field.
Disagree with a previous poster who suggested he needed to work on his kicking, it is superb on either foot.
We would be crazy to pass him up if still availaible.
 
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He'll be long gone by then. I expect him to be a top 40 selection.
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Agree , if he is to be with the Bombers then will will have to use pick 23 which may not be as much of a reach as you would think.
 

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well i'm sold...a year learning from Fletcher and he could turn out to be a very classy back come 2010
perhaps:cool:
 
not bad id be happy with him looks good and loves to run he would made a good AFL player , we have Hooker who is same looking player (well what ive seen) so would it be worth it to draft him if we have hooker
 
a bit too much jarrod waite for my liking. looks good in patches. not sure if he could hold down a key position. besides, with ryder and pears on our list we are looking for a full back rather than another CHB
 
hulld said:
a bit too much jarrod waite for my liking. looks good in patches. not sure if he could hold down a key position. besides, with ryder and pears on our list we are looking for a full back rather than another CHB
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Why do people keep saying we are looking for a FB anyway ?
In todays footy it is rare that the FF plants himself in the goal square for the whole game. Ryder will basicly be our FB becasue he will be the bloke taking the best forward each week next year.
We are really just looking for tall defenders.
 
ant555 said:
Why do people keep saying we are looking for a FB anyway ?
In todays footy it is rare that the FF plants himself in the goal square for the whole game. Ryder will basicly be our FB becasue he will be the bloke taking the best forward each week next year.
We are really just looking for tall defenders.
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While that is true if you have a defender that is a bit slow or doesn't read the play well the first thing an opposition coach will do is send the FF deep and clear the 50.

This usually means switching your defenders, sometimes resulting in mismatches or even just upsetting your balance.

I don't agree on the Paddy at FB scenario and believe he is more suited to playing a mobile CHB.

His reading of the play and what i believe is a lack of a real defensive mindset doesn't suit him playing deep as he gets exposed on the lead way to easily.

Of course he will improve but i see him as a CHB who can set up attacks and deliver with precision, in 2-3 years.
 

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Merv said:
While that is true if you have a defender that is a bit slow or doesn't read the play well the first thing an opposition coach will do is send the FF deep and clear the 50.

This usually means switching your defenders, sometimes resulting in mismatches or even just upsetting your balance.

I don't agree on the Paddy at FB scenario and believe he is more suited to playing a mobile CHB.

His reading of the play and what i believe is a lack of a real defensive mindset doesn't suit him playing deep as he gets exposed on the lead way to easily.

Of course he will improve but i see him as a CHB who can set up attacks and deliver with precision, in 2-3 years.
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I'm not having a go at you Merv but I find that a lot of posters (I've been guilty myself) expect too much of Ryder at such a young age.

It's easy to forget he is still only 20 years of age, he is at least another three years away (IMO) firstly from having the body to compete with the biggest and best forwards, and secondly learning all the tricks of the trade from a key defender's perspective.
 
Merv said:
While that is true if you have a defender that is a bit slow or doesn't read the play well the first thing an opposition coach will do is send the FF deep and clear the 50.

This usually means switching your defenders, sometimes resulting in mismatches or even just upsetting your balance.
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This is why i said we are not really looking for a full back. We are looking for tall defenders. Basicly you need three tallish mobile defenders in this day and age. The exact reason why Mal retired. He was no longer suited to the role defenders now have to play.


Merv said:
I don't agree on the Paddy at FB scenario and believe he is more suited to playing a mobile CHB.

His reading of the play and what i believe is a lack of a real defensive mindset doesn't suit him playing deep as he gets exposed on the lead way to easily.

Of course he will improve but i see him as a CHB who can set up attacks and deliver with precision, in 2-3 years.
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I don't really see him as a set up player at all. One of his biggest problems as far as the ruck goes is he is not all that good at the around the ground stuff or general play. It does not look natural to him.
What makes him good as a defender is his read of the ball coming towards him, his good leap and a bit of coolness under pressure when he has the ball. The lack of defensive mindset comes from the fact that it was not a position he has played a lot before the last few seasons.
The reason i called Ryder our FB is becasue he will get the best forwards next year. With the way teams set up FB is only really a name on a page. I am not saying for a minute that Ryder will simply play deep all game. He will follow the player he is on to where ever they go.
The attacking CHB is more likely to be Pears who played a lot of midfield before he got to under 18 ranks.
 
Thanks for posting the video, Merv. Post looks like he can read the play well and has good pace. As others have suggested he is probably not worth pick 23, but if we take a mid at 5 he may be our best bet at 23.
 
ant555 said:
This is why i said we are not really looking for a full back. We are looking for tall defenders. Basicly you need three tallish mobile defenders in this day and age. The exact reason why Mal retired. He was no longer suited to the role defenders now have to play.
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I agree with you and the Mal type of FB is gone until the game evolves again, if at all.

The thing is you need to have at least 1 player who can play deep because as soon as you don't the opposition coaches will push their guns deep and expose you.

I know you believe that Ryder can play that role but i don't.
My opinion of Ryder isn't as high as many others of him and although i think he will be a good player at CHB i don't think he has the mindset or the attitude to play as a deep defender.

IMO unless you are an out and out gun, like Scarlett, to succeed playing on the gun FF's at FB you need a negative mindset, along with the obvious physical attributes.

Many will howl me down for this but this is why Fletcher has never been able to stop the guns from kicking bags on him time after time.
It isn't all his fault as our gamestyle doesn't suit that plus he has been expected to set up attacks or at the very least hit up a target 50-60 mtrs away once he has beaten his man.

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I don't really see him as a set up player at all. One of his biggest problems as far as the ruck goes is he is not all that good at the around the ground stuff or general play. It does not look natural to him.
What makes him good as a defender is his read of the ball coming towards him, his good leap and a bit of coolness under pressure when he has the ball. The lack of defensive mindset comes from the fact that it was not a position he has played a lot before the last few seasons.
The reason i called Ryder our FB is becasue he will get the best forwards next year. With the way teams set up FB is only really a name on a page. I am not saying for a minute that Ryder will simply play deep all game. He will follow the player he is on to where ever they go.
The attacking CHB is more likely to be Pears who played a lot of midfield before he got to under 18 ranks.
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When i mentioned him as a set up player, i was talking about him playing CHB and using his precision kicking to hurt the opposition. I certainly don't see him as a ruckman.

I see him as a player that at CHB once he has spoilt his opponent he can mop up the loose ball and hit a target much in the way that Fletch has been expected to do for most of career, only usually from FB.
Don't forget that Knighter has stated that Paddy will be our CHB for the next 10 years.

I totally agree with your assessment of defenders and the way that in modern football forwards are virtually a forward rotation but my point is if you don't have a guy that can play a lockdown role on the likes of Franklin and fevola etc then these guys won't be getting rotated or running up the wings to get kicks, open up the space, set up attacks etc they will be plonked in the square by thier coaches and they will clear the 50 to exploit the player you have on them.

IMO you have to have one guy that is a traditional FB, that can pinch hit at FP/CHB if needed.
Hurley looked every bit this type of player except he lacks speed but i'm sure he would make a good CHB.
 
The guy is an absolute freak, ive seen a few games of his and i was very impressed.. he can play CHB, Ruck and is a very exiting full forward when he goes down there, ABSOLUTE FREAK!!
 

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