Draft limbo.

[35Daicos]

I would think that there will be no draft.
How do the clubs make a call on players to be delisted if they haven’t played?
And with the rumour that senior lists may be only 30 to 35, to keep players wages high, then the delisting will not need replacements.

I have no doubt there'll be a draft at the end of the year, even if there's little or no football played over the next six or so months. Lists may well be cut back in size for next year, but clubs will still need to bring in new players from somewhere.

 

[35Daicos]

Mark this down now. When the AFL kicks off the season again - you will see hype like never before, this includes changes to the VFL comp, TAC U18, the draft will be bigger and most of all the game itself will nearly be 24/7. No matter how unfortunate today is, this will make the game bigger & better.

23.03.2020


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The gloom and doom merchants would prefer to think otherwise, but the game/competition will survive, and before we know it will be thriving again! It's too big, too popular, too well run, to go any other way.

 

[TradeDraft]

It’s still a concern but they are improving, the major difference between here and there is the control the government has on the population. Not saying it’s a good thing except maybe under current situation.

That have Total Control over the People are in China

 

[sr36]

Not sure if we can trust statistics from China. They are still having deaths and new cases why would they go back to normal life which is what makes this thing explode. They have 39 new cases and 9 new deaths.

The new cases are either in Hubei or are people returning to China who are all being quarantined. There is no spread in China occuring. They'll go back to normal life, because social distancing and shutting down business is a short term necessity, but not something to live by long time.

 

[sr36]

I have no doubt there'll be a draft at the end of the year, even if there's little or no football played over the next six or so months. Lists may well be cut back in size for next year, but clubs will still need to bring in new players from somewhere.

I think 18 is too young. Personally, I think it's a great opportunity to move the draft age to 19 without any club having cause for complaint.

 

[Jelly Bean]

With less information there's a higher chance of good prospects slipping to later in the draft, so 1st round draft picks are slightly less valuable than previous years.

Yep, exactly. That doesn't sound like a 'massive advantage' to clubs with later picks. It sounds like their late picks are slightly less crap because there is a slightly higher chance a gem gets through. But there is also a slightly higher chance they pick someone who isn't even worthy of being picked.

 

[76woodenspooners]

AFL will be in a dire financial predicament over this (Gil has already signaled that) and clubs will struggle. The salary cap will need to get slashed and list sizes plummet.

Wouldn’t be surprised if total list size went from around 45 to around 35 or even 30 + mid season top-ups for LTI’s.

Clubs may need to close down or merge. The expansion clubs must be in dire straits ATM. Even Collingwood’s position wouldn’t be great given our clubhouse is being sponsored by a company who stopped paying ages ago and is leaving the country, and one of our guernsey sponsors is an airline company, and one of our main sponsors is an investment company. No gate takings, no broadcasting dollars, merchandise sales will have dried up, many members won’t be in a position to continue paying their dues. Tough times.

Hard to imagine that there’ll be any draft of substance under all those conditions.

 

[Mr Magic]

What happens with the draft if no more footy is played this year?

How do you determine a draft order or do they go in the 2021 draft and no one gets drafted in 2020?

 

[Mr Magic]

I would think that there will be no draft.
How do the clubs make a call on players to be delisted if they haven’t played?
And with the rumour that senior lists may be only 30 to 35, to keep players wages high, then the delisting will not need replacements.

this is not good enough from AFL HQ.

its a f...g dog's breakfast and its a bad joke

 

[jackcass]

I would love nothing better but a vaccine looks so far off at the moment, maybe not even this year.

I'm not so sure it'll drag on that long. As I understand it, they've developed what they think is a workable vaccine, they've identified that a pre-existing delivery platform will work, it's now just the testing and the production. Of course if that testing goes all pear shaped....

And then there's the hope offered by the promising use of malaria and HIV drugs as a potential cure. If trials confirm the efficacy of those drugs then having a viable treatment also mitigates the urgency for a vaccine.

 

[caloschwaby]

The simplest draft system for the next National Draft (assuming no more senior and junior football etc) is keeping the same order as per last draft with no priority picks.

Simple and fairest possible way forward.

Tbh if it came to it I wouldn't mind to try our luck with a lottery system. Incredibly unlikely to get a worse pick than we would've probably gotten after winning the flag.

 

[Gone Critical]

I'm not so sure it'll drag on that long. As I understand it, they've developed what they think is a workable vaccine, they've identified that a pre-existing delivery platform will work, it's now just the testing and the production. Of course if that testing goes all pear shaped....

And then there's the hope offered by the promising use of malaria and HIV drugs as a potential cure. If trials confirm the efficacy of those drugs then having a viable treatment also mitigates the urgency for a vaccine.

Without wanting to be too down on this the world has been looking for a drug effective against influenza and other viruses forever without any real success. HIV drug used long term on a much less virulent disease has made great gains but that isn't likely to extrapolate to these acute diseases. The evidence for the malaria drugs is very limited and will probably end up not being beneficial. A vaccine is still likely 12-18 months no matter what the press says

I reckon its almost certain we wont play again this year. The virus is in the community, we cant get rid of it just slow it. Slowing it measures will be in place for 6 months minimum you would think.

 

[Kappa]

Without wanting to be too down on this the world has been looking for a drug effective against influenza and other viruses forever without any real success. HIV drug used long term on a much less virulent disease has made great gains but that isn't likely to extrapolate to these acute diseases. The evidence for the malaria drugs is very limited and will probably end up not being beneficial. A vaccine is still likely 12-18 months no matter what the press says

I reckon its almost certain we wont play again this year. The virus is in the community, we cant get rid of it just slow it. Slowing it measures will be in place for 6 months minimum you would think.

Well, I for one welcome our new virus overlords.

 

[Copeland]

The new cases are either in Hubei or are people returning to China who are all being quarantined. There is no spread in China occuring. They'll go back to normal life, because social distancing and shutting down business is a short term necessity, but not something to live by long time.

Hubei because its neighbors Wuhan?

 

[sr36]

Hubei because its neighbors Wuhan?

Hubei is the province and Wuhan the city. Basically Melbourne vs Victoria. Hubei's borders are still closed and I expect will remain so for a fair while longer.

 

[MagpieJoel]

I'm not so sure it'll drag on that long. As I understand it, they've developed what they think is a workable vaccine, they've identified that a pre-existing delivery platform will work, it's now just the testing and the production. Of course if that testing goes all pear shaped....

And then there's the hope offered by the promising use of malaria and HIV drugs as a potential cure. If trials confirm the efficacy of those drugs then having a viable treatment also mitigates the urgency for a vaccine.

I heard an Australian lady on the radio a couple of weeks back (ABC), bad memory, but she was important in terms of the Australian response to this sort of thing.

She said a vaccine for the "Coronavirus family" has been in development for two years in the US. It was put at the top of the list due to SARS, and MERS. She was indicating that it should work for COVID-19, but obviously testing on humans is required. The testing on humans in the US has started.

The first study of a potential coronavirus vaccine will soon start recruiting healthy volunteers in Georgia at Emory University

The NIH, which is running this first study of a coronavirus vaccine candidate, will recruit volunteers in Georgia as well as Washington state.

www.businessinsider.com.au

As First COVID-19 Vaccine Starts Human Testing, Company Prepares to Make More Doses

Even as human trials for Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine just begin, the drug maker is preparing for massive demand in the near future.

time.com

 

[TradeDraft]

AFL will be in a dire financial predicament over this (Gil has already signaled that) and clubs will struggle. The salary cap will need to get slashed and list sizes plummet.

Wouldn’t be surprised if total list size went from around 45 to around 35 or even 30 + mid season top-ups for LTI’s.

Clubs may need to close down or merge. The expansion clubs must be in dire straits ATM. Even Collingwood’s position wouldn’t be great given our clubhouse is being sponsored by a company who stopped paying ages ago and is leaving the country, and one of our guernsey sponsors is an airline company, and one of our main sponsors is an investment company. No gate takings, no broadcasting dollars, merchandise sales will have dried up, many members won’t be in a position to continue paying their dues. Tough times.

Hard to imagine that there’ll be any draft of substance under all those conditions.

IF there be a AFL at all

 

[JOELY]

Melbourne would be pretty happy to keep last years draft order.

 

[35Daicos]

I think 18 is too young. Personally, I think it's a great opportunity to move the draft age to 19 without any club having cause for complaint.

Plenty of people would agree with you, but I hope they don't ever change it, unless it's just for a year or so until the dust settles after the virus disaster. I doubt they'd want to put the age up because the fact that talented young players can go straight from school onto an AFL list and earn excellent money from the first year onwards has to be a real lure for our game. Also, players don't have to nominate at 18 if they don't think they're ready, so I just don't see why it needs to be changed.

The likes of Tim Watson and Albert Collier were just 15 when they debuted at senior level. Perhaps Nick Daicos might even be good enough to play for us this year, but (as things stand) he'll be at least 19 by the time he gets to debut (I'm pretty sure that's correct). Would you really have him (and us) wait another year to see that happen?!

 

[sr36]

Plenty of people would agree with you, but I hope they don't ever change it, unless it's just for a year or so until the dust settles after the virus disaster. I doubt they'd want to put the age up because the fact that talented young players can go straight from school onto an AFL list and earn excellent money from the first year onwards has to be a real lure for our game. Also, players don't have to nominate at 18 if they don't think they're ready, so I just don't see why it needs to be changed.

The likes of Tim Watson and Albert Collier were just 15 when they debuted at senior level. Perhaps Nick Daicos might even be good enough to play for us this year, but (as things stand) he'll be at least 19 by the time he gets to debut (I'm pretty sure that's correct). Would you really have him (and us) wait another year to see that happen?!

Whilst it would be a shame to miss out on the occasional year like Stephos first, but the way I see it, for every Stepho there 20 guys who are drafted, chewed up and spat out of the system before they are mentally, physically and emotionally ready. Even Stepho last year put up a pretty good case for being too immature.

Plus, I think it will help lower leagues as it will keep kids in state leagues for a year or two longer.

Ideally, I wouldn't mind keeping it open to 18 years but with a restriction on numbers that clubs could take - like they used to have with 17 year olds.

None of what I'd like matters thought, because it's been pretty obvious for a while that the AFL are pretty happy with the current system and are just looking to tweak it for academies.

 

[whiskeytown]

If, as predicted, the NAB league doesn’t run... it probably guarantees the pies will take Reef McInnes with our first pick. Unless Ugle-Hagan is somehow available

Hard to spend a 1st rd pick on a player that hasn’t played NAB league, but the pies have had a close look at McInnes for a while now so they know a bit about him already

 

[TradeDraft]

If, as predicted, the NAB league doesn’t run... it probably guarantees the pies will take Reef McInnes with our first pick. Unless Ugle-Hagan is somehow available

Hard to spend a 1st rd pick on a player that hasn’t played NAB league, but the pies have had a close look at McInnes for a while now so they know a bit about him already

Then queston is will a team before our 1st Pick Big on Reef?

 

[Jen2310]

Oh, we're taking Reef. Probably has been with us since he was 12 or 13.. Just a matter of which pick. He is projected to go first round.

If they do Dave, we'll have the points for it.

 

[Jen2310]

Speaking of Reef..

 

[MyManLynch]

If there was no draft this year...then all of the 2020 crop would be available for the 2021 mid season draft.
They would have to incorporate bidding system as well, with more than 1 pick per team?