Draft pick 12

[wantfrieswitthat]

draft pick

after tonights disapointing loss we will either get pick 10 or 11, who do you think it will be? i believe swans will go for a ruckman possibly tyrone vickery if he is still around which is unlikely or the next best thing shaun Mckernan who is very similar to tyrone and has beat him on a few occasions, both of which could go forward and develop into a KPP or a ruckman. i dont think the swans will go for a midfielder although i hear they are keen on picking up another fast backflanker. any thoughts?

 

[Hooley McBoob]

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We don't need anybody under 192cm, that's for sure.

 

[RUNVS]

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Next season the Swans will have 4 ruckmen on our list so i will be really annoyed if we recruit another. What the Swans most need is a key position Full Forward.

 

[wantfrieswitthat]

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delist some of them then because this year will be the year to cash in on the rucks or we can have the brilliant master stroke of lrt as a ruck lol and some of these ruckman can go forward and kick many goals i.e tyrone vickery spent a lot of the carnival up front

 

[SOPH_CROSS]

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Give back pick 26 and get Seany and Snides back...good idea Yeah?

Def someone tall

take the pressure of Joll and Currie who will a working progress his 1st few games

A tall hard running forward or back liner

Remember we have a few good kids who will debut from the twos next year

 

[doona]

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I think that the swans have some good players coming through the reserves in most areas of the game.

We have good young onballers, ruckmen and key posi backs.

Therefore i think that drafting a KPF is a must from this draft however i dont necessarily think that it should be with the first pick.

I think that with the first pick the club (and any club for that matter) should pick the best available player regardless of position. And then with the remaining picks in the draft pick players to fill voids in the team.

Remember just because someone is taken with a high pick doesn't mean that they will become a good player.

 

[Costanza_]

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A key forward is a must with our first pick. Hall and O'Loughlin probably have one more year left, and then we'll be left with a gaping hole. I haven't looked closely at the draft prospects yet this year, can anyone throw some potential KPP names around that are likely to be around come pick 10?

 

[BSA1874]

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Paul Roos has got it absolutely right. We need quality midfielders. That is where we are consistently being beaten. Kirk can't carry the midfield forever. Ideally we should look at midfielders that can win their own ball. As Roos has floated the idea of trading, possibly even look at trading for someone like Daniel Harris (NthM). He one of the best at clearances and is reportedly unhappy at the roos.

My personal preference would be to draft young talent. We have Schmidt, Laidlaw and Thornton to return after a full preseason and add Bird, Jack, Barlow, White, Brabazon, Smith, Vezpremi, O'Dwyer and Currie. Then we start to get to see a clear picture of where our club's future lies.

 

[Punchy Demons]

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I am a Melbourne supporter & it is going to be many years before we are ready to challenge for finals and then hopefully a premiership.
Bailey said that he wouldn't give up our first three draft picks that we have but I'm sure he would be open to the idea of trading picks 17 & 19 or one of them along with a player to boost ourselves higher into the first round.

My initial thoughts were to use teams (Bris, Nth, Adel). Now that that the Swans season has also finished you will have either pick 11 or 12.

For example:
We trade pick 17 & Green or Bruce to either Brisbane, North, Adel or Swans.

in return

We gain pick 7(Bris), 9 (North) 10 (Adel) 11 or 12 (Swans) along with a third round selection being 41(Bris), 43 (North) 44 (Adel) 45 or 46 (Swans).

We get an earlier 1st round pick along with a mid range 3rd round pick, to go with our priority of getting young talent

You gain a late 1st round pick, a very good versatile established player in your quest for premiership glory who has at least 3 - 4 years left in them.

Any thoughts??

 

[kira]

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We don't need anybody under 192cm, that's for sure.

i concur

our youngsters in regular senior line-up: bird, jack, moore, veszpremi (let alone schmidt, o'dwyer and meredith).... not one will even be as tall as yao ming's knee

a kpp will be my first choice

 

[kira]

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I am a Melbourne supporter & it is going to be many years before we are ready to challenge for finals and then hopefully a premiership.
Bailey said that he wouldn't give up our first three draft picks that we have but I'm sure he would be open to the idea of trading picks 17 & 19 or one of them along with a player to boost ourselves higher into the first round.

My initial thoughts were to use teams (Bris, Nth, Adel). Now that that the Swans season has also finished you will have either pick 11 or 12.

For example:
We trade pick 17 & Green or Bruce to either Brisbane, North, Adel or Swans.

in return

We gain pick 7(Bris), 9 (North) 10 (Adel) 11 or 12 (Swans) along with a third round selection being 41(Bris), 43 (North) 44 (Adel) 45 or 46 (Swans).

We get an earlier 1st round pick along with a mid range 3rd round pick, to go with our priority of getting young talent

You gain a late 1st round pick, a very good versatile established player in your quest for premiership glory who has at least 3 - 4 years left in them.

Any thoughts??

tough sale

with ws and gc coming in... the first round pick is like the golden ticket

anyway those players are in their later 20s... better off trading them to a team that is going up rather than down

 

[EatBig Australia]

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Key forward to replace Magic/Hall should be number one priority.

Also, (please take note that this is in no way racist) I would be really excited to get a young aboriginal on our list. A flashy, really pacey mid sized forward would be a great inclusion I reckon.

If the Swans want another ruck on the list that is fine but I would rather take one late (similar to what we did with Currie a few years back) then spend a top pick on one.

 

[Jaymeee]

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We don't need anybody under 192cm, that's for sure.

some of the best players in the AFL are under 192 cm

eg ablett, bartel, judd, kerr, selwood, harvey

 

[Punchy Demons]

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tough sale

with ws and gc coming in... the first round pick is like the golden ticket

anyway those players are in their later 30s... better off trading them to a team that is going up rather than down

I agree that they are valuable, but you effectively get Bruce or Green for a 3rd round selection and downgraded 1st round selection. (5 selections later to be precise.)

 

[kira]

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I agree that they are valuable, but you effectively get Bruce or Green for a 3rd round selection and downgraded 1st round selection. (5 selections later to be precise.)

yeah but with a team going down hill... you don't expect those players to figure in your next premiership side... and a slightly earlier pick would be greater than a few good players to fill in the gaps imo

but we're sydney... so we may still figure in the draft

other probable targets:
- freo (always in draft mode)
- brisbane and port (if they reckon they're on the way up instaed of down)
- carlton (most likely)
- richmoad and essendon (wildcard targets)

those are probably your best options... but like i said... tough sale

 

[TheMase]

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Any thoughts??

No, but thank you for posting.

 

[MF]

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I am a Melbourne supporter & it is going to be many years before we are ready to challenge for finals and then hopefully a premiership.
Bailey said that he wouldn't give up our first three draft picks that we have but I'm sure he would be open to the idea of trading picks 17 & 19 or one of them along with a player to boost ourselves higher into the first round.

My initial thoughts were to use teams (Bris, Nth, Adel). Now that that the Swans season has also finished you will have either pick 11 or 12.

For example:
We trade pick 17 & Green or Bruce to either Brisbane, North, Adel or Swans.

in return

We gain pick 7(Bris), 9 (North) 10 (Adel) 11 or 12 (Swans) along with a third round selection being 41(Bris), 43 (North) 44 (Adel) 45 or 46 (Swans).

We get an earlier 1st round pick along with a mid range 3rd round pick, to go with our priority of getting young talent

You gain a late 1st round pick, a very good versatile established player in your quest for premiership glory who has at least 3 - 4 years left in them.

Any thoughts??

While I think some of our senior players still have a bit left in the tank they aren't going to be challenging for a premiership in the next season or two so I don't think we should be looking to top up with players 26 years+. I have no problem with us trading for established players just so long as we can get at least 6 or 7 years out of them.

 

[disgruntled goat]

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Key forward to replace Magic/Hall should be number one priority.

Also, (please take note that this is in no way racist) I would be really excited to get a young aboriginal on our list. A flashy, really pacey mid sized forward would be a great inclusion I reckon.

If the Swans want another ruck on the list that is fine but I would rather take one late (similar to what we did with Currie a few years back) then spend a top pick on one.

I yearn to see Jesse White picked as a key marking forward and left to play there for several games on end. Just leave him to learn and gain confidence.

He WILL be a star, given time in seniors to develop.

 

[BarneyBent]

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Chris Yarran anyone?

 

[RUNVS]

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Chris Yarran anyone?

From what ive heard Chris Yarren will be gone by pick 11.

 

[Hooley McBoob]

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some of the best players in the AFL are under 192 cm

eg ablett, bartel, judd, kerr, selwood, harvey

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Hopelesslyaddicted]

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I confer with Eat Big Australia,


With out being racist and or the opposite, I'd certainly have a good look at who the best available indigenous talent was.

A bit of flair, speed and that elusive intangible 7th sense, could be what we need whether it be on our half back line, mid field or centreline.

 

[RUNVS]

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Everitt calls time, and may not be last

PETER EVERITT'S career ended last night - and so did Sydney's season.

Paul Roos was reluctant to forecast whether that meant the end of the Swans' good times, but it was an issue the coach raised after a listless performance against Collingwood in round 21. After the Bulldogs steamrolled their opposition last night, the question is unavoidable.

Ruckman Everitt, a three-time All Australian and a best and fairest champion at the two clubs he played for before joining the Swans in 2007 - St Kilda and Hawthorn - announced his decision to his teammates in the dressing rooms as soon as they left the MCG after what was the 34-year-old's 291st career game. Veteran Ben Mathews pulled the pin some weeks earlier, but with several other 30-something veterans still on the list, Sydney, in weeks to come, will carefully consider the make-up of their roster.

"You've got to decide how you get back to winning a premiership, which is obviously very, very hard to do," Roos said after the match that ended Sydney's sixth successive finals campaign.

"We generally like to have the players determine their own futures and generally they make the right decisions. So in terms of the rest of the list we'll assess that over the next three or four weeks.

"I think we've improved on last year, which is really something we tried to
do in the off-season. We tried to address some of the things that we knew we weren't quite as good at last year. We made a few trades and played some young kids this year, so I think we have improved as a team, but I think everyone's a fair way behind Geelong."

It was a midfield of Cortinas and Ferraris that contested the 2005 grand final - the colourful description coming out of Sydney ahead of that most memorable of September battles between them and the West Coast Eagles.

Three years on and the semi-final played between the Swans and the Western Bulldogs was a face-off between a unit of hardened professionals and a troupe that had previously foundered on the big stage.

The difference at half-time last night was four points, and while the Dogs had finished the second term with tails in the air after stringing consecutive goals together, the margin suggested this was going to be Sydney's kind of game. But within minutes of the third quarter's commencement, everything suggested that assessment was wrong, and suddenly the team that has played the past six Septembers - and made grand finals in two of those - looked a side that was in need of a makeover.

"We'll continue that formula of taking young kids," Roos promised. "We took three last year in [Craig] Bird, [Patrick] Veszpremi and [Brett] Meredith. It's really important to go to the draft as well. But equally I think we've done a really good job of getting players from other clubs that have contributed significantly to our team, so it'll be a combination of that again," Roos added of the club's proposed off-season dealings. "It's probably a little bit harder to assess this year compared to this time last year because last year we went out [of the finals] pretty easily … but I thought we were really competitive for a lot of the game today against a team that's been very good all year.

"Everyone talks about power forwards and we've got 'Hally', [Barry Hall] but I think, midfield talent, the way the game's played now is probably a little bit more important than your forward talent. That's probably an area we still have to look at."

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/ne...may-not-be-last/2008/09/13/1220857846592.html

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Is anyone else worried about the final quote from Paul Roos. Even though we have a million young midfielders and practically no young forwards i get the impression that Roos is going to draft more midfielders

 

[grimlock]

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I say we trade for a first round pick for a change. I remember when we managed to off load Brett O'Farrell to Hawthorn for a first round pick. I haven't laughed that hard since.

 

[SM]

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So we get what, pick 11 now?