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Brisbane got Ashcroft x 2 and Fletcher under different rules. That was a farce. Doesn't mean the current rules are.

Also in general am struggling to feel sorry for you.

Tigers have won 3 flags in the last 8 years. Free agency rules helped you add Lynch after winning your 1st. Pinched Prestia from a struggling Goldcoast.

Then last year after finally falling down the ladder you clean up trading Bolton and Rioli. Got overs for Rioli mainly on the basis of GC having so much academy talent, they didnt need to play hard ball with picks. So indirectly benefited from the system.

There are clubs who have been hard done by. The Tigers arent one of those clubs.
This isn't about feeling sorry for Richmond, take off your blue glasses. Very AFL mentality to consider the outcome rather than the process. Essendon's in the same boat - finished bottom four and their first pick won't be until ~9-10.

AFL claims to care about equalisation but make the most short-term knee-jerk decisions that avoid doing the hard work of making a system that works.
 
Darcy Moore was crap early and has come good now

You speaking of a past system

Will be different this year and potentially harder again next year
lol Sam Darcy, not Darcy Moore...

Different this year is more than a third of the first ~35 picks being tied to clubs?

Next year you have the clear number one pick probably tied to Port Adelaide. I say probably only because the AFL have been putting off making a decision on Port's application for most of the year. Why? Because even they are starting to realise it's a farce when the top two picks are likely to be not on the free market
 

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I'm interested in those trades but I do wonder how the club sees things. I feel like 7 as our second pick is little lower than where we want to be but from a value perspective, it's on the money.
Yes it could be too late for Sharp or Cumming but would get you Farrow.
 
lol Sam Darcy, not Darcy Moore...

Different this year is more than a third of the first ~35 picks being tied to clubs?

Next year you have the clear number one pick probably tied to Port Adelaide. I say probably only because the AFL have been putting off making a decision on Port's application for most of the year. Why? Because even they are starting to realise it's a farce when the top two picks are likely to be not on the free market
If you get rid of F/S and NGA full stop, then I think the AFL should also allow immediate trading of drafted players

Its a risk for the drafting club that they end up with a disgruntled player on their list, so wouldnt it be better for that club to then be able to on trade the player to their desired location? Also means that the club gets the benefit of additional draft picks etc, as opposed to draft picks being swallowed up for points etc
 
So Richmond end up second last and end up with the 7th and 8th best players in the draft ?

If there was ever a situation perfect for Richmond to completely blow up this draft and force everyone to pay the maximum for all their NGA and father son players, this is it

Bidmond is gunna go CoCo bananas on draft night, and the draft is going to be exposed for the farce that it is
People say this every year, and it never happens.
 
WC and Richmond are struggling to find anyone to take pick 2/4 for a F1, you’ll struggle to find anyone who would take pick 11
Very different first round picks.

Sounds like we're only talking to teams who think they can finish high like Saints and Adelaide.

You're right though, getting an early pick next year will be tough.
 
Very different first round picks.

Sounds like we're only talking to teams who think they can finish high like Saints and Adelaide.

You're right though, getting an early pick next year will be tough.
The only way for a club to get an early pick next year is to do it themselves :p
 
WC and Richmond are struggling to find anyone to take pick 2/4 for a F1, you’ll struggle to find anyone who would take pick 11
I think they'd get plenty of takers for 2/4 for an F1 straight swap. But theyd want more then that. Another first this year most likely. Effectively getting an F1 to just slide down the order.

They want a good F1 too. They arent all equal.
 
Yes it could be too late for Sharp or Cumming but would get you Farrow.

Do WCE need someone albeit good, it more than likely another half back? Surely lets assume they take the ultime utility in Duursma, their midfield is a shambles, they HAVE to take some absolute midfielders to help Harley Reid etc otherwise they are running the risk of butchering this up. it's also why I don't see why you trade to 7 (which becomes lets say 10 ish) and trade out of the real top end.

I personally feel it's more likely they try and move 13 up without touching picks 1 and 2. Can they put their f2 with it and get up to a range to get a Dyson Sharp for instance, so they could get Duursma, take Robey or CDT and then the slider in Sharp. It's just an example, but for me it's a smarter play.
 
Do WCE need someone albeit good, it more than likely another half back? Surely lets assume they take the ultime utility in Duursma, their midfield is a shambles, they HAVE to take some absolute midfielders to help Harley Reid etc otherwise they are running the risk of butchering this up. it's also why I don't see why you trade to 7 (which becomes lets say 10 ish) and trade out of the real top end.

I personally feel it's more likely they try and move 13 up without touching picks 1 and 2. Can they put their f2 with it and get up to a range to get a Dyson Sharp for instance, so they could get Duursma, take Robey or CDT and then the slider in Sharp. It's just an example, but for me it's a smarter play.
I'd be down for giving Essendon 13 + Saints F2 for 6 if Cumming is still on the board there but I can't imagine Essendon would be terribly keen about that. Melbourne looms as a more realistic trading partner and there's a chance that someone other than Grlj slips through to 7.
 
I'd be down for giving Essendon 13 + Saints F2 for 6 if Cumming is still on the board there but I can't imagine Essendon would be terribly keen about that. Melbourne looms as a more realistic trading partner and there's a chance that someone other than Grlj slips through to 7.

Agree for me the Farrow selection is such a 'lazy' selection for fans/supporters, just because the bloke is from WA. You literally took Bo Allen, is he that much of an upgrade (if any) than him.

Yeah I'd be looking at the mids on the table, even if it's Carltons pick 9/11. Saints F2 would help them next season too. There is always a mid that slips.
 

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Agree for me the Farrow selection is such a 'lazy' selection for fans/supporters, just because the bloke is from WA. You literally took Bo Allen, is he that much of an upgrade (if any) than him.

Yeah I'd be looking at the mids on the table, even if it's Carltons pick 9/11. Saints F2 would help them next season too. There is always a mid that slips.
I think the problem for us is that we need to be in that top echelon of players. Once we get down to Melbourne's picks, you're not really getting anyone projected to be better than what you would get at 13. There have been reports of West Coast wanting a third top 10 pick though so I wonder who we're looking at.
 
I think the problem for us is that we need to be in that top echelon of players. Once we get down to Melbourne's picks, you're not really getting anyone projected to be better than what you would get at 13. There have been reports of West Coast wanting a third top 10 pick though so I wonder who we're looking at.

Who knows, if it is surely it can't be for Farrar who you'd easily get in the mid teens. Have a feeling and this may be wrong okay...but taking Sharp at 2, and then trade up for Sam Cumming (pairing the SA boys together). This means you leave CDT go but you do actually have some talls. The issue is how far do you have to go up to get Cumming? Can't see how he gets past Essendon surely?
 
Different pick in a different range.

Clubs confident of finishing top 6 would have a look if they didnt need the points.

Saints might roll the dice again.

Collingwood always seems to bring picks forward.

Cats are probably fine trading out too, even a club like the Crows where sides may gamble on last year being an outlier rather than where their list is.
 

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Who knows, if it is surely it can't be for Farrar who you'd easily get in the mid teens. Have a feeling and this may be wrong okay...but taking Sharp at 2, and then trade up for Sam Cumming (pairing the SA boys together). This means you leave CDT go but you do actually have some talls. The issue is how far do you have to go up to get Cumming? Can't see how he gets past Essendon surely?
Cumming won't get past Essendon. He might not even get past Richmond, though that would require them passing on one of CDT and Robey.
 
Cumming won't get past Essendon. He might not even get past Richmond, though that would require them passing on one of CDT and Robey.

I can see Richmond passing on CDT, they did take a few talls last year. Have a feeling if WCE don't take him, could be the weird slider no one expected. Richmond to take Robey and then one of Taylor/Grij/Sharp/Cumming, not sure on the Sharp to Rich though have a few sort of similar types however might just be so far ahead in 'best available' you just take him
 
I can see Richmond passing on CDT, they did take a few talls last year. Have a feeling if WCE don't take him, could be the weird slider no one expected. Richmond to take Robey and then one of Taylor/Grij/Sharp/Cumming, not sure on the Sharp to Rich though have a few sort of similar types however might just be so far ahead in 'best available' you just take him
He won't slide, WC or Essendon will take him with pick 2. Imo
 
Who knows, if it is surely it can't be for Farrar who you'd easily get in the mid teens. Have a feeling and this may be wrong okay...but taking Sharp at 2, and then trade up for Sam Cumming (pairing the SA boys together). This means you leave CDT go but you do actually have some talls. The issue is how far do you have to go up to get Cumming? Can't see how he gets past Essendon surely?
Cumming isn't really a Croweater but, his hometown is Wentworth on the NSW border just schooled in Adelaide while playing for North Adelaide.
 
He won't slide, WC or Essendon will take him with pick 2. Imo

Maybe, only question is from a wce position are you neglecting the main issue- the midfield. Duursma is great so he has to go 1, but taking the tall over a mid when your midfield is being belted? It's why I can see you keeping 2 but going Sharp. He'd suit your side to a tee. Get Reid some help in there, I know Hewett is there, but surely you need a prime mid in the top tier, unless you are planning on trading that 13 up the order, but where? Surely it's for a Cumming, or someone like that.
 
I think Westcoast have needs everywhere and primarily just need top talent. They can use 13 which might get upgraded to 9 or 11 via trade to grab a mid.

For all the talk of Duursma being a utility Westcoast will absolutely try develop him as a mid. If they didn't see him as a capable fulltime onballer at afl level, they probably don't pick him 1.
 

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