Prediction Draft rumours

[captainMyCaptain]

I just put an eg out there , some people just don't rate the kings highly , that including me , how many players (KPP) actually become real star around 2m and above , compare to 194-198 .
Just personal preference , I prefer mixture of tall between 190-198 mix with one 2M and above .
Peter Wright ( 2 meter ) , Jack Leslie ( 1.98) ,Sam Day ( 1.97) .

I doubt St Kilda have many players near 2 meter and above as pure Kpp.

Would suggest that most 200cm+ guys don't have the natural speed the King boys have and worth remembering that Ben King finished in the top 10 in the 20 meter sprint at the draft combine

 

[Peel67skin]

Would suggest that most 200cm+ guys don't have the natural speed the King boys have and worth remembering that Ben King finished in the top 10 in the 20 meter sprint at the draft combine

There is no muscle definition in Ben king body when he run those 20meter sprint . Can he retain his speed when he add muscle on .
Even daniher take some time to adjust his mature body.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

On SEN breakfast this morning, Cal Twomey said Walsh to Carlton isn't 100%, they're considering Rankine.

 

[Thetrader15]

As much as I’d be over the moon if Jack Lukosius number was called out first, having already snared McGovern he’ll strengthen our forward line.
It’s either Sammy Walsh an elite workhorse, future leader an outstanding young lad that any team would want or Rankine ( mr Magic) tonhelp in the middle and further reinforce our forward. Also we get to irritate the Crows to boot.
Either way we just cant lose.

Great...another crows/carlton trade period coming up!

 

[Taylor]

On SEN breakfast this morning, Cal Twomey said Walsh to Carlton isn't 100%, they're considering Rankine.

They should. I think Walsh is the safe bet, vanilla that they can build their team off. Rankine will win games off his own boot, make everyone around him look better and will be a more damaging player in my opinion.

Five years from now I don't think Sam Walsh is the best player from his draft class. I think Rankine is in the conversation but he is also riskier and that stigma of a #1 pick going poorly in a rebuild could cost people their jobs.

 

[Crazy Tails]

On SEN breakfast this morning, Cal Twomey said Walsh to Carlton isn't 100%, they're considering Rankine.

I wonder if that also means that the Blues are looking to maybe off load pick 1 for Suns 3 and 6? By pass Walsh and take 2 top 6 prospects over just the one.

Suns take Walsh (safe bet for them - which they need) and Lukosious and then Blues take Rankine at 3 and maybe Rozee at 6.

 

[Peel67skin]

I wonder if that also means that the Blues are looking to maybe off load pick 1 for Suns 3 and 6? By pass Walsh and take 2 top 6 prospects over just the one.

Suns take Walsh (safe bet for them - which they need) and Lukosious and then Blues take Rankine at 3 and maybe Rozee at 6.

If you are GC basically you just sit and do nothing .
If Blues pick Rankine
GC pick Lukosius , Walsh at 2,3
And 6 Caldwell / Smith / Rozee / B King /M king .

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I wonder if that also means that the Blues are looking to maybe off load pick 1 for Suns 3 and 6? By pass Walsh and take 2 top 6 prospects over just the one.

Suns take Walsh (safe bet for them - which they need) and Lukosious and then Blues take Rankine at 3 and maybe Rozee at 6.

If I'm GC no way would I do that. 3 picks in the top 6 is better than 2. GC need more elite talents, not less.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

On SEN breakfast this morning, Cal Twomey said Walsh to Carlton isn't 100%, they're considering Rankine.

Rightly so. Rankine is the highest risk, highest reward pick though. Personally I expect Carlton to take the sure thing in Walsh, but if they took Rankine you'd understand why.

 

[Socrates2]

I wonder if that also means that the Blues are looking to maybe off load pick 1 for Suns 3 and 6? By pass Walsh and take 2 top 6 prospects over just the one.

Suns take Walsh (safe bet for them - which they need) and Lukosious and then Blues take Rankine at 3 and maybe Rozee at 6.

According to the AFL draft calculator, pick 1 is equivalent to pick 3 and pick 22 ,so no way GC trade 3 and 6 for pick 1. https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#3,6|

 

[LukeParkerno1]

According to the AFL draft calculator, pick 1 is equivalent to pick 3 and pick 22 ,so no way GC trade 3 and 6 for pick 1. https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#3,6|

Also is a useless waste of time. If Carlton don't want Walsh, GC will pick him at 2 or 3. If they want Walsh they will pick Rozee or Rankine.

 

[Socrates2]

Also is a useless waste of time. If Carlton don't want Walsh, GC will pick him at 2 or 3. If they want Walsh they will pick Rozee or Rankine.

If Carlton genuinely can't split Walsh, Rankine and Lukosious, they should trade pick 1 , for pick 3 and pick 22.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If Carlton genuinely can't split Walsh, Rankine and Lukosious, they should trade pick 1 , for pick 3 and pick 22.

I'd say they want one of the mids, so maybe 2 and 22, but honestly what is the point from GC's point of view? I still maintain that Carlton could trade 1 for 5 and 10 (with a future selection back to Port) and make out like bandits. Both clubs win. Port get a local SA lad, and Carlton get two top 10 picks, whilst losing say a future second (pick say 21-25 in 2019). Whether Port will do it is another thing though.

 

[Crazy Tails]

According to the AFL draft calculator, pick 1 is equivalent to pick 3 and pick 22 ,so no way GC trade 3 and 6 for pick 1. https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator#3,6|

I understand what you are saying but IMO points are irrelevant to this trade. Comes down to whether the Suns want the best two players in the draft or three of the top 6 and/or whether the Blues want one top 6 pick or two. Suns probably take 3 in top 6 as you could build a case for any of the mooted top 4 going at pick 1 but still worth the question being asked of SOS.

If the Suns really want Walsh the only way they can guarantee that happens is if they get pick 1. Carlton may or may not take him but the Suns make it failsafe if they get pick 1.

 

[Two Planks]

A more realistic trade would see Carlton trade pick 1 and a future 1st for picks 2, 3 and a future 2nd.

Gold Coast can then pick Walsh at 1 and Caldwell at 6 and have 3 early 1st rounders next year with their own and Brisbane and Carlton's as well.

Blues pick Lukoscius and Rankine this year which is an easy sell to members.

 

[Toadvine]

Rumours around that Geelong are right into Butters with their 1st pick.

 

[Wayne Swan]

If I'm GC no way would I do that. 3 picks in the top 6 is better than 2. GC need more elite talents, not less.

Gold Coast can't lose no matter who Carlton pick at 1. No way they dilute their current hand. 2 & 3 get two of Walsh, Lukocious, Rankine whilst at 6 they are also on a winner with one of Smith, King or Rozee available. Massive hand Gold Coast take to the draft, let Carlton wallow in their pick 1 indecision.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Rumours around that Geelong are right into Butters with their 1st pick.

A few draft watchers have discussed Fremantle being interested in him too. I wonder if they trade up ahead of Geelong or just take someone else.

 

[Peel67skin]

A more realistic trade would see Carlton trade pick 1 and a future 1st for picks 2, 3 and a future 2nd.

Gold Coast can then pick Walsh at 1 and Caldwell at 6 and have 3 early 1st rounders next year with their own and Brisbane and Carlton's as well.

Blues pick Lukoscius and Rankine this year which is an easy sell to members.

Gold Coast not desperate enough and find future 2nd pick . ( Part of Brisbane future first round pick swap )

 

[Peel67skin]

I understand what you are saying but IMO points are irrelevant to this trade. Comes down to whether the Suns want the best two players in the draft or three of the top 6 and/or whether the Blues want one top 6 pick or two. Suns probably take 3 in top 6 as you could build a case for any of the mooted top 4 going at pick 1 but still worth the question being asked of SOS.

If the Suns really want Walsh the only way they can guarantee that happens is if they get pick 1. Carlton may or may not take him but the Suns make it failsafe if they get pick 1.

Question need to be ask is Sam Walsh no go home factor worth 2 top 6 pick .

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Yep, is quoted as having said would rather leave Perth and live on his own two feet.

I thought he said he would rather play against his cousins, not that he would rather move interstate.

 

[JUSTWORK]

I thought he said he would ratger play against hid cousins, not that he would rather move interstate.

Google it, it’s pretty easy to find, might have been a fox article. He defiantly said his preference was to move interstate and live in his own two feet.

He did say he wanted to play against his cousins in the tomorrows hero’s interview.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Question need to be ask is Sam Walsh no go home factor worth 2 top 6 pick .

No, Especially with this years top 6.

 

[yyou]

Anymore news on the stkilda/GC pick swap ?

Makes a lot of sense for both clubs, Saints still get a very good player at 6, presumably M.King or Smith (who ever port don't take at 5) and gain a pick in the 20s and GC can get the three SA lads Luko, Rankine and Rozee (pairing all three would further improve retention) and don't have to worry about port taking either Rankine or Rozee before GCs third pick.

and then get them to line up for some circle work?

 

[Thetrader15]

I wonder if that also means that the Blues are looking to maybe off load pick 1 for Suns 3 and 6? By pass Walsh and take 2 top 6 prospects over just the one.

Suns take Walsh (safe bet for them - which they need) and Lukosious and then Blues take Rankine at 3 and maybe Rozee at 6.

They might be looking but GC wpuld need to sign off on that...tell him he's dreaming