Prediction Draft rumours

[HARKER]

You pick the best players and find a place to put them...that or trade out McKay

I think Curnow might end up being a mid anyway

No you don't. If you have to find new roles for someone you had faith in but have now relegated for the shiny new toy you've brought in, you're doing it wrong.
Sum of the parts game. Sometimes you have to trust the parts you're already investing in and fill the gaps elsewhere.

 

[DangerSloane]

Rankine is the better player long-term and Cripps needs a mature body, they should draft Rankine and rookie list Barlow. Problem solved.

Carlton aren't winning the flag next season.

I see what you're saying but does bringing in Barlow just waste your time at this point when you know its a few years away.

Better off leaving the load to the young midfielders arent you?

 

[SumTingWong]

Richmond will select Mav Weller in the rookie draft.


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Finally a rumour. The rest of this page is full of s###!!

 

[Thetrader15]

No you don't. If you have to find new roles for someone you had faith in but have now relegated for the shiny new toy you've brought in, you're doing it wrong.
Sum of the parts game. Sometimes you have to trust the parts you're already investing in and fill the gaps elsewhere.

Depends hiw many gaps you have...Collingwood didn't need Beams
Geelong didn't need Ablett, but they're great players so you take them

 

[HARKER]

Depends hiw many gaps you have...Collingwood didn't need Beams
Geelong didn't need Ablett, but they're great players so you take them

They're hardly first year draftees though and even then....how did Ablett ultimately help Geelong?

Don't just seek for talent for talents sake and then have to think about who you're going to have to re-invent and why? Doesn't make for good List Management.

 

[Taylor]

I see what you're saying but does bringing in Barlow just waste your time at this point when you know its a few years away.

Better off leaving the load to the young midfielders arent you?

Paddy Dow was absolutely gassed by half time most games last year, he is going to develop and work on his tank but it's not there yet.

Structurally I'd play a mature ruck, mature bodied stoppage group, mature bodied key backs and mature bodied key forwards.

Everyone else can be a junior with the most junior in the forward pockets and that team can be competitive.

You take out the first steps, a ruck and a mature bodied stoppage group and you're involvement in play will start at the halfback line.

So I wouldn't play junior midfielders like that.

 

[Thetrader15]

They're hardly first year draftees though and even then....how did Ablett ultimately help Geelong?

Don't just seek for talent for talents sake and then have to think about who you're going to have to re-invent and why? Doesn't make for good List Management.

So if the top 4 best players were mids, you had pick 1 and had Collingwood depth mids, would you take the 5th best player who is the kpf you desperately needed at 1?

I know, you trade down for pick 5...but what if no one pays your price and you are left with 1?

 

[HARKER]

So if the top 4 best players were mids, you had pick 1 and had Collingwood depth mids, would you take the 5th best player who is the kpf you desperately needed at 1?

I know, you trade down for pick 5...but what if no one pays your price and you are left with 1?

Good question. If the gap was say a 15 of 100 for the type I wanted, then yes, I'd take the talent first.
It's all somewhat subjective but as we continually see, clubs somehow magically get the player they want with the right 'needs' attached.

No magical formula and your point is perfectly relevant, but when there is a gap and it's filled, the opportunity presents earlier and the talent gets the premium development. Happens all the time. No surprise that generally speaking, the top 10 each year seem to get the earliest runs/chances.

 

[Arr0w]

Draft best available, trade for needs

 

[HARKER]

Draft best available, trade for needs

Easily said yet doesn't always play out that way, no matter how many times it possibly should have.
Look at recent history and you'll find the answer.

ADDITION: Just to prove this point, was Brayshaw the second best talent from last year?

 

[Arr0w]

Easily said yet doesn't always play out that way, no matter how many times it possibly should have.
Look at recent history and you'll find the answer.

Recent history shows that the players taken in the top 10, rarely feature again when revisiting that same draft

 

[Thetrader15]

Draft best available, trade for needs

Drafting is an art for so there is no precise answer. It's all a balance - needs, local v interstate, temprement, injury history, etc etc

Early in the draft I'm going talent, but would shift to needs later in the draft

 

[HARKER]

Recent history shows that the players taken in the top 10, rarely feature again when revisiting that same draft

I think clubs have to be smarter than to just be doubling up on talent, against finding the right fitting talent.
That's been my contention for some time and won't change any time soon. Opportunity makes for a wonderful product.

 

[Arr0w]

Drafting is an art for so there is no precise answer. It's all a balance - needs, local v interstate, temprement, injury history, etc etc

Early in the draft I'm going talent, but would shift to needs later in the draft

Draft best available with all picks

Sides that have the best spread of talent, have sustained success

 

[Arr0w]

I think clubs have to be smarter than to just be doubling up on talent, against finding the right fitting talent.
That's been my contention for some time and won't change any time soon. Opportunity makes for a wonderful product.

Kids have minimal input to a side in the first couple of years.

You don't pass up a kid at say pick 20, because you "need" a certain type and is ranked 5 places later in your rankings

You make allowances of course, for mature age types, such as a Kelly, Ryan

 

[eastfreo75]

 

[exxcessivve]

If they are taking best available, they should take Lukosius imo, Sam Walsh could easily end up being another Murphy or Gibbs

Is this implying having a Murphy or Gibbs in your team is undesirable, or am I misreading your comment???

 

[Socrates2]

Is this implying having a Murphy of Gibbs in your team is undesirable, or am I misreading your comment???

I think in this so called 'superdraft', whoever has pick 1, will be expected to draft a superstar.Murphy and Gibbs are quality players, but they're not in the best 20 players in the league.Sam Walsh might be same level as them whilst Rankin and Loukakius could be special apparantly.

 

[exxcessivve]

I think in this so called 'superdraft', whoever has pick 1, will be expected to draft a superstar.Murphy and Gibbs are quality players, but they're not in the best 20 players in the league.Sam Walsh might be same level as them whilst Rankin and Loukakius could be special apparantly.

Ahh alright I agree with that.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Why is some guy just casually getting a juice at Freo club headquarters on a Monday evening?

 

[Suma Magic]

Why is some guy just casually getting a juice at Freo club headquarters on a Monday evening?

It’s a shared facility with the public.

 

[Thetrader15]

With 13 and 31, they might need to upgrade on the night

Wouldn't the afl love that!

 

[juddy_Like]

Hypothetical: would you rather have the first pick of Day 2 or the last pick of day 1?

My thinking is, wouldn’t the eagles just spend all night Thursday whore-ing that pick out to the highest bidder since there is always someone that slides out of R1?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Hypothetical: would you rather have the first pick of Day 2 or the last pick of day 1?

My thinking is, wouldn’t the eagles just spend all night Thursday whore-ing that pick out to the highest bidder since there is always someone that slides out of R1?

They have to stop day 1 somewhere, the plan isn't too bad.

 

[AFLOnline]

I think in this so called 'superdraft', whoever has pick 1, will be expected to draft a superstar.Murphy and Gibbs are quality players, but they're not in the best 20 players in the league.Sam Walsh might be same level as them whilst Rankin and Loukakius could be special apparantly.

Seen some horrible ways of butchering the kids name but that is easily the worst yet