Draft Summary!

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not that I know of. If Norman wasn't such a head case I would have a crack at him for depth purposes.

Norman would at least be worth talking to, as he has some decent talent & would offer some KPP depth. I can't think of any better ready made KP available.

 

[outback jack]

When you start telling everyone around you, they don't get it, you need to start to wonder who is not getting it...

if you use that logic not much would happen in the world.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Norman would at least be worth talking to, as he has some decent talent & would offer some KPP depth. I can't think of any better ready made KP available.

The problem is that he is Laurence Angwin the second.

There is more to being on the list than just being a footballer. His character has more holes than swiss cheese.

Carlton are crying out for tall defenders but they are happy to let him go. I wonder why

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

The problem is that he is Laurence Angwin the second.

There is more to being on the list than just being a footballer. His character has more holes than swiss cheese.

Carlton are crying out for tall defenders but they are happy to let him go. I wonder why

Sure, but some players have come good in another environment - eg. Martin Pyke.

 

[outback jack]

The problem is that he is Laurence Angwin the second.

There is more to being on the list than just being a footballer. His character has more holes than swiss cheese.

Carlton are crying out for tall defenders but they are happy to let him go. I wonder why

wasnt he a ruck/ goal kicking forward? Anyway he looked too injury prone with his shoulders and light to be a gun. If he was going to be i'm sure he'd be on a list. Every player has some latitude depending on their talent up to a point i'd think. He either isnt as talented as some ppl say or was a very naughty boy.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

if you use that logic not much would happen in the world.

Using your logic, everything would be out in left field.

 

[outback jack]

Using your logic, everything would be out in left field.

agree the world would be alot better

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

agree the world would be alot better

Definitely needed at times, but like everything, there needs to be a balanced equilibrium.

 

[outback jack]

Definitely needed at times, but like everything, there needs to be a balanced equilibrium.

yes true i was taking the pis$ actually. In terms of realistic theories balance is the key!

 

[Markthirtytwo]

yes true i was taking the pis$ actually. In terms of realistic theories balance is the key!

Getting a bit deep there Jack.

 

[Richard MacSellar]

Just got home from the cricket and I wanted to say that I'm pretty disappointed by the draft results. First of all, another Victorian with our first pick, haven’t we learnt our lesson? Pheiffer I am very pleased with, but then that all we did good in my book.

Bernie Vince? You have got to be joking. He played one good final and that justifies pick 32? I am positive he would have stayed for pick 48 or possibly even 62. What a poor pick. Obst may be alright, but we didn’t even pick Rischbieth? Or what about Sam Elliot, he was available. I rate him very highly.

In my book, another poor draft performance once again.

good post, drummond.

 

[Crow-mo]

Did you even bother to read my initial post? I said I would have been delighted with Rischbieth or Sam Elliot.

love these old threads

 

[Crow-mo]

FACT: Rischbeith and Elliot are much better prospects that Vince.

this has gotta hurt.

all good fun though.

 

[Drummond]

this has gotta hurt.

all good fun though.

Elliot was dumped prematurely IMO. He could be another Porplyzia, so therefore you should have only bumped up this thread when he’s at least 23.

Rischbeith turned out to be nothing more than an athlete with minimal football ability, I was wrong on that one.

I still don’t think Vince will turn into anything substantial though.

 

[Crow-mo]

Elliot was dumped prematurely IMO. He could be another Porplyzia, so therefore you should have only bumped up this thread when he’s at least 23.

I didn't bump it. and if he does a Porplyzia, then you should definitely be the one to bump it next time.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Elliot was dumped prematurely IMO. He could be another Porplyzia, so therefore you should have only bumped up this thread when he’s at least 23.

Rischbeith turned out to be nothing more than an athlete with minimal football ability, I was wrong on that one.

I still don’t think Vince will turn into anything substantial though.

I agree with this. I would be very suprised if Bernie Vince plays more than 50 games. Granted he has some special skills but for a small guy, he has limited leg speed.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I agree with this. I would be very suprised if Bernie Vince plays more than 50 games. Granted he has some special skills but for a small guy, he has limited leg speed.

So does Jason Porplyzia, so did Roger James...

Lack of leg speed can be off-set by pure football talent. A pure footballer with clean hands is always at least half a step ahead of his opponent

 

[macca23]

So does Jason Porplyzia, so did Roger James...

Lack of leg speed can be off-set by pure football talent. A pure footballer with clean hands is always at least half a step ahead of his opponent

Damn good point, Stiffmeister.

Roger James was not quick at all, but he was a class player who was the brains trust of Port's mid-field with his ability to read the play and superb disposal.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

So does Jason Porplyzia, so did Roger James...

Lack of leg speed can be off-set by pure football talent. A pure footballer with clean hands is always at least half a step ahead of his opponent

Fair call but is Vince a genuine midfielder prospect? I see him more as a small forward.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Fair call but is Vince a genuine midfielder prospect? I see him more as a small forward.

I can see him playing in the midfield. He definetly has the right football nous. He just needs to get his fitness up. Vince will be very good player if injuries can stay away.

 

[crowsarethebest]

Next year I want to inject some SPEED into our midfield. Most of our youngsters are pretty average in leg speed. Look at Essendon, They injected Houli, Jetta and Davey who all are speedy. Soon the AFL will be full of athletic type of players.

 

[Dandy_GO]

Elliot was dumped prematurely IMO

I agree with this. I think the kid had talent. Perhaps if last years draft was not so strong he may well have kept his place on the rookie list.
He's still very young though. It wouldn't surprise me if we did give him another chance.

 

[betterthanu]

Elliot was the year below me at school and he got best on ground as a yr 11 in the match between Sacred heart college vs Kilmore college (the 2 best football schools in Australia). Considering Danny Myer, Brad Sugars, Hinge, Tom Redden and Jack juniper (all been on AFL lists or rookie) were all in the same match plus however many kilmore player made it to the afl, it was obvious he could be a very good AFL player. Hopefully he comes on in the SANFL this year and we get him back porps style(also from SHC - no bragging ).

Didnt he get 40 touches in a reserve game just before he got dropped from the rookie list????

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I agree with this. I would be very suprised if Bernie Vince plays more than 50 games. Granted he has some special skills but for a small guy, he has limited leg speed.

SC I suggest you have a look in the NAB cup at players like Willitts, Hurne, and other second year players ......see how much better toned they are and how much quicker in leg speed and thinking than in their first season.

A full PS in their second year makes an enormous difference.

Look at Sugar Kane in his first season was slow and definately not quick enough for AFL ....second season, a different player.

Be patient he'll be a very good player ......when you hear reports of the AFC's future Vince is bracketed with the likes of Douglas, Knight, Maric ....so he has some real supporters within the club.

 

[Crow-mo]

Next year I want to inject some SPEED into our midfield. Most of our youngsters are pretty average in leg speed. Look at Essendon, They injected Houli, Jetta and Davey who all are speedy. Soon the AFL will be full of athletic type of players.

and they just lost to Carlton

Pace is overrated, as a singular attribute.