Mega Thread Draft Talk Part 1

[tigs2010]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

How was it dodgy??? It was smart. They created a draft pick out of thin air...

I agree it was smart. I think u answered why it was dodgy with your last sentence. Brisbane let him go for and end of first round pick? please. they only let him go due to the trade deal arranged. Hence, he was traded and there should have been no compo but they manipulated the rules to do it and the AFL were ok with it. So, what im saying is they would let the deal i proposed go through if GWS really wanted O'Meara.

 

[nut]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

I agree it was smart. I think u answered why it was dodgy with your last sentence. Brisbane let him go for and end of first round pick? please. they only let him go due to the trade deal arranged. Hence, he was traded and there should have been no compo but they manipulated the rules to do it and the AFL were ok with it. So, what im saying is they would let the deal i proposed go through if GWS really wanted O'Meara.

The compo pick didn't cost GC anything. Thats why the was good. Brisbane probably got more than what he was worth and it didn't cost GC too much.
Brisbane also got Rohan Bewick who looks handy also.

That trade is pretty much my reasoning behind doing a deal that involves the under 17 mini draft because we would be potentially getting more than what we hand over because GWS are trading something that they wont have. Basically GWS aren't even in the calculations.... it's an auction against all the other clubs with GWS simply the Vendor.
So everyone will sit back with their cards very close to their chests until the last moment.... like any Auction.

So depending on what else is on offer will determine what we will have to cop up.

 

[tigs2010]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

The compo pick didn't cost GC anything. Thats why the was good. Brisbane probably got more than what he was worth and it didn't cost GC too much.
Brisbane also got Rohan Bewick who looks handy also.

That trade is pretty much my reasoning behind doing a deal that involves the under 17 mini draft because we would be potentially getting more than what we hand over because GWS are trading something that they wont have. Basically GWS aren't even in the calculations.... it's an auction against all the other clubs with GWS simply the Vendor.
So everyone will sit back with their cards very close to their chests until the last moment.... like any Auction.

So depending on what else is on offer will determine what we will have to cop up.

I understand the GC/Bris deal. Bris let him go for end of first round pick knowing full well what else they would get from GC. If it wasn;t for the extra deal Bris wouldn't have agreed to let him go.
I'm saying would GWS accept Foley, Nahas and compo for O'Meara if we traded him back to them for the other 3 picks? DD said once O'Meara is obtained we can't trade him again but i think if GWS wanted him the AFL would allow it. Just like they allowed GC to get the player they wanted.

 

[santa claws]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Nothing is Guaranteed but the idea is trying to turn 1 into 2 elite players and bolster the midfield with 2 potential top 5 picks... I dont see how this is so "laughable".

1/The "real issue" ???? lack of patience. I am suggesting to take 1 step backwards to take two steps forward....


2/ In the hope.... sums up our last 32 years.



3/This I agree with.... except that you haven't factored in the huge carot the under 17 draft is.



4/ This is why I am advocating get 2 elite 17 year olds that would be early picks in the "super" draft next season where we would be able to get a few more good draftees...


5/I hope we do too.... all the talk is though we are chasing every ruckman in the land.


6/Do you really think this club is going to do that.... look how they have used Tuck this season!!!



7/I'm patient but I know that is we want to compete against GWS and the GC in the coming years we will need to compete in the midfield....

1/ you are advocating doing something that is high risk unneccesary and probably very damaging to the fabric of the club. you then want to put all your eggs in the vickery griffiths basket. one a ruckman and the other who has done absolutely nothing and is rated highly solely on his reputation and in peoples imaginings.
you want to trade a long term young key forward who is at least very good. a type that is very hard to find at any time. in the process further weakening what tall kpf stocks we have and they are lmited and an area we still need to build on.
in the process delete a part of the very limited quality we do have. we have spent how long and how many early picks over recent yrs endevouring to find what little quality we have and your willing to chop out that quality in hope with no guarantee that the two we take will be any good or better options than jack. while your dreaming why not offer up martin we have more mids of standard and they are easier to find than kpfs.

you want to go backwards but at what risk. you want to find two quality kids by trading jack, you know what keep jack use pick 10 to find another quality player and you have two very good players one of whom we know is very good.

2/ cmon in hope was talking the rookie draft. you are taking kids with flaws in their game, its why they slip. you are hopeful of turning that around but how often does it happen. take 6 rookies you might find 2 to put on the list proper if lucky. its one argument why taking a 20 23 yr old mature player late or rookie draft is less risk.

3/ yes i have looked into the so called carrott of the under 17 draft, and as explained we are not in a position atm to take part. we cant trade out quality players because of risk why trade a long term young quality player that diminishes this stock with no guarantee what you trade for will be better or even work.
and frankly an almost total dearth of quality says we have to build on what we have got not diminish it.you know if you were to offer up a 28 yr old high quality player that would maybe work but we dont have an older quality player to offer up.

4/ doing what you propose still does not address quality or depth with any guarantee. depth can be addressed without giving up quality.
why is it sides never ever let quality young players go willingly. the answer is simple every yr their is only so many and its so damn hard to get your hands on them. when you do you hang on for dear life.

5/ we need to chase a ruckman for me cost atm is the issue, we have many needs a ruckman is just one of them. to me to actually upgrade on the ruckmen we currently have should not be too hard or cost too much. go get one that makes us a bit more competetive and come back to the problem in three yrs time if vickery has not developed. i would also be looking to use a nd pick on a decent young ruckman, scott lycett from last yr comes to mind theres no reason why we cant find a lycett with a pick in the late 20s or 30s.

6/but arent houli and grigg mature types or derickx that came cheap. im not saying any of em are any good but look at the process.and yes older players like tuck who perform a role should be played.

7/ i have no doubt gc and gws will both go past us so many things say it will happen. we dont have to catch up this yr or 3 yrs time but if our window is in 5 or 6 yrs time we will want to have caught up by then.
we can only look after and do do something about i a reasonable time frame what we have control of.

 

[THE_GUN]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

The thing that people should remember when throwing up these suggestions is that 1 bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.

We currently have a gun FF/CHF player in Jack that has proven already at such a young age that he is capable of amazing things & is a loyal clubman which has another 10 years of football in him.

Also remember that Tambling,Fiora,Banik were also all stand out players at the ages of 17-18 and dont always become what people believe they will, I can accept giving up a player like Foley being 26 and richmond still 3-4 years away from serious flag threat but not somebody like jack who is 22.

Crazy thoughts guys ............... Forget about trading Jack
He Bleeds Richmond & You dont find these guys easily.

 

[tigs2010]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

I agree with u Santa on the we can't trade Riewoldt debate. We can't replace him later as KPP take longer as u said. I also think Martin who is a unique talent is untouchable and Cotchin as well with his talent combined with leadership skills will make him our captain and best player in the near future.

However, as good as Deledio is and Foley can be I don't see them as untouchable. Foley is small, skills are average, hasn't got the pace he used to have and in reality he may never get it back. Deledio is a star of our team BUT he can leave in a year if he feels like it and we have to deal with the compo picks we receive. Maybe a mid first rounder at best. He is also IMO an amazingly talented one way player. In a normal year I can't see us getting true value for these 2 players but with GWS mini-draft and excessive first rounders we would be mad not to at least consider an offer from them.

The rumour is we would get O'Meara and pick 5 for Lids. I'd go one step further and get the second pick for Foley plus a second rounder but downgrading pick 5 to 11, 13 or 15. Our recruiting has improved with FJ with our first rounders. Possibly because we use them instead of trading them O'Meara is a quick, damaging two way player, Crouch at pick 2 is a complete midfielder and possibly better than O'Meara. We are overrating Foley if we think he is a complete mid. Throw in another first rounder to go with the one we already have and a 2nd rounder with the one we have means we have 2 elite kids from a super draft. (both tipped to go top 5) plus 4 picks in top 30-odd in a draft with 30 good kids.

Yes, everyone is concerned we will go backwards but in the end we will go forwards. We may end up with a priority in the superdraft as well but so what? That's 4 top 30 picks again. If with 10 top 30 picks we can't replace Lids/Foley and all the duds on our list we should pack up shop. We could load up on mids between 182-190cm and weed out our short people.

If we go the stock standard route of round 1 & 2 pick each year we will be seeing Edwards, Jackson, White etc for quite some time.

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Just thought I should add that I didn't start this Deledio thing for no reason. There are 2 rumours going around. First one is a Victorian club has offered up a superstar in their team for pick 1 (which i presume is mini-draft as GWS won't give up Patton), 5 and GWS 2nd rounder. A week later its mentioned we have offered Deledio for O'Meara, and pick 5.

That's 2 seperate rumours that fit together. Not to mention GWS are after Deledio confirmed by management. Where there's smoke? I've thrown the Foley one in as someone suggested if we get rid of Deledio we may as well do Foley as well and start from 2006 with Riewoldt. We would effectively trade down from 5 to 15 but gain a 2nd pick. By sounds of it, after the first 3 it evens out. So quality of 5 and 15 may be similar.

Crouch will be better than Foley and will fit our age group nicely. He's quick has fantastic skills and can win his own ball and is bigger than Foley. For those saying Foley is 24 he's actually 26 in a month.

Deledio also available for FA next year and has wanted out before (2009) due to lack of success. Since then we have been 15th, most likely 14th and probably fairly similar next year. What's going to keep him here next year?

I also know we were exploring O'Meara as a possibility.

They would want Lids, Jack, Dusty or Cotch.

I am not sure what you are saying with Foley but I agree if we trade Lids we may as well trade Foley and he would be good for GWS as he is experienced polish in the middle with experience they need. Foley would be wanted by GWS and very useful for their development even though he is not and out and out superstar. What are you suggesting we would get for Foley??

Regarding Lids, to me the draft drops away from 3 and more so after 5 so that is why we would need pick 5 IMO

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Im not saying thats the whole deal. I said package him and Deledio for first 2 picks plus pick 15 and 28. They would want Deledio and DO want Deledio. Lids manager has said so.

I wouldn't do this for the following reason . This draft appears to be weak and at the end of the day we want something for what we give up and cannot be cutting our throuts.

In this regard picks 15 and 28 could be worth nothing so they have little value.

A better deal would be trading Foley/Lids and other lessor player(s) for pick 5 draft pick and top 2 mini draft picks. It is just a question of what GWS want for the lessor players of possible

 

[tigs2010]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

I wouldn't do this for the following reason . This draft appears to be weak and at the end of the day we want something for what we give up and cannot be cutting our throughts.

In this regard picks 15 and 28 could be worth nothing so they have little value.

A better deal would be trading Foley/Lids and other lessor player(s) for pick 5 draft pick and top 2 mini draft picks. It is just a question of what GWS want for the lessor players of possible

I was saying give Foley up for second mini draft pick. I'd be happy with either deal. Could end up with 4 guns this draft (could have O'Meara, Tyson, Kavanagh and Crouch) for 1 gun and a solid player. Add our picks from next draft and i think we will find we won't miss them in 2/3 years time. The rumour mentioned that GWS were pushing for a lower pick while we wanted 5. If we got 28 as well as 5 even better Even an upgrade of our pick would be a win.

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

The thing that people should remember when throwing up these suggestions is that 1 bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.

We currently have a gun FF/CHF player in Jack that has proven already at such a young age that he is capable of amazing things & is a loyal clubman which has another 10 years of football in him.

Also remember that Tambling,Fiora,Banik were also all stand out players at the ages of 17-18 and dont always become what people believe they will, I can accept giving up a player like Foley being 26 and richmond still 3-4 years away from serious flag threat but not somebody like jack who is 22.

Crazy thoughts guys ............... Forget about trading Jack
He Bleeds Richmond & You dont find these guys easily.

Okay, JR is tradable but like a lot are saying he is integral to RFC,.

For one forget this culture BS because it is what it is BS but I understand we all like the players and having them around bleeding for us etc...

In terms of culture and fabric it is not nothing but people also need to see longer term Omeara may be the ticket to Scully if suits with RFC Scully, WC Omeara and Melb some Gaff/Shuey combo. Probably will not happen but not inconceivable for those worrying about fabric.

The other thing is trading a number of players to GWS will help them in the move if they are happy to go on the good money and prospects(they are only a few hours away on a plane and will be playing in Melbourne with Sheedy running the show ex-Rich so it is not like they are visiting Mars).

The bird in the hand statement is wrong. Normally, you are right in life, but in AFL due to the AFL draft you are better with 2 in the bush than a bird in the hand and it is this principle you are doing the trades in the first place apart from increasing you premiership window possiblilities by getting the better players closer to the Martin Cotches ages and making the list younger.

Having said that JR is a rare breed and of extremely high value and I assume GWS knows this partcularly as he should fit with Patton and Folau(possibly) extremely well with western Sydney calling Sheedy god if it happened. So as important as JR is the only time I would consider trading JR would be next year where you could get the no. 1 draft pick for 2012 plus top mini draft pick and whatever else from GWS and it would ultimately increase RFC's absolute premiership prospects despite losing the likes of JR. GWS having a lot of younger star recruits etc.. so due to the different list compositions and what they need such a trade would be a win win for both clubs. Having said this , probably won't happen and we will be happy JR stays a happy tiger!!

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

1/ you are advocating doing something that is high risk unneccesary and probably very damaging to the fabric of the club. you then want to put all your eggs in the vickery griffiths basket. one a ruckman and the other who has done absolutely nothing and is rated highly solely on his reputation and in peoples imaginings.
you want to trade a long term young key forward who is at least very good. a type that is very hard to find at any time. in the process further weakening what tall kpf stocks we have and they are lmited and an area we still need to build on.
in the process delete a part of the very limited quality we do have. we have spent how long and how many early picks over recent yrs endevouring to find what little quality we have and your willing to chop out that quality in hope with no guarantee that the two we take will be any good or better options than jack. while your dreaming why not offer up martin we have more mids of standard and they are easier to find than kpfs.

you want to go backwards but at what risk. you want to find two quality kids by trading jack, you know what keep jack use pick 10 to find another quality player and you have two very good players one of whom we know is very good.

2/ cmon in hope was talking the rookie draft. you are taking kids with flaws in their game, its why they slip. you are hopeful of turning that around but how often does it happen. take 6 rookies you might find 2 to put on the list proper if lucky. its one argument why taking a 20 23 yr old mature player late or rookie draft is less risk.

3/ yes i have looked into the so called carrott of the under 17 draft, and as explained we are not in a position atm to take part. we cant trade out quality players because of risk why trade a long term young quality player that diminishes this stock with no guarantee what you trade for will be better or even work.
and frankly an almost total dearth of quality says we have to build on what we have got not diminish it.you know if you were to offer up a 28 yr old high quality player that would maybe work but we dont have an older quality player to offer up.

4/ doing what you propose still does not address quality or depth with any guarantee. depth can be addressed without giving up quality.
why is it sides never ever let quality young players go willingly. the answer is simple every yr their is only so many and its so damn hard to get your hands on them. when you do you hang on for dear life.

5/ we need to chase a ruckman for me cost atm is the issue, we have many needs a ruckman is just one of them. to me to actually upgrade on the ruckmen we currently have should not be too hard or cost too much. go get one that makes us a bit more competetive and come back to the problem in three yrs time if vickery has not developed. i would also be looking to use a nd pick on a decent young ruckman, scott lycett from last yr comes to mind theres no reason why we cant find a lycett with a pick in the late 20s or 30s.

6/but arent houli and grigg mature types or derickx that came cheap. im not saying any of em are any good but look at the process.and yes older players like tuck who perform a role should be played.

7/ i have no doubt gc and gws will both go past us so many things say it will happen. we dont have to catch up this yr or 3 yrs time but if our window is in 5 or 6 yrs time we will want to have caught up by then.
we can only look after and do do something about i a reasonable time frame what we have control of.

Santa, just a counter argument.

7. You say GC and GWS have gone past us, If this is the case don't we have to out youth GC and GWS by rising when GC and GWS are slipping under the leadership of Cotch and Marin. Also a good case Lids and Co may be better off traded to GWS to get a premiership before RFC a few years later.

6. You promote Houli and Grigg and then say they are not any good possibly. The point is fans are searching for a more robust clear definitive direction to a premiership that brings confidence IMO.

5. The Ruckman argument, has been done to death , and reeks of media manipulation and imbalance.Truth is with pick 5 we could get Longer and we have plenty of years ahead to make a Ruck adjustment if needed before our team gets in the premiership window which every observant follow must acknowledge is a few years away at earliest!!

4. Trading for youth increases the quality opportunity and quantity by getting younger quality youngsters with greater upside and opening up the opportunity to access higher draft picks in the short term future without tanking. It also makes the list younger allowing the premiership window to be extended and gives us more time to get more players of quality to play in our premiership team increasing the number of players we can get before we play in the big one.

3. We actually are in a position to take part. We have quality youngish players in Lids/Foley and JR that GWS would pay a premium for. Compare these to the likes of Davis , with respect, and you know these players, apart from other players we might have , are in demand. On top of that we have high end players that are very young in Cotch and Martin that can lead the cubs through the tougher times. We also have solid support in Vickery , Grimes and Rance apart from others. Making our list younger only boosts the lists prospects for a premiership for the ikes of Cotch and co making them happier and more sure RFC is the place to be for them to win a premiership.

You mention risk but are you really talking about fear?? What risk, there is no risk with Cotch and Co, don't you believe in them?? I do and I think they will stand up like they will have to in the GF. On top of that it will help our debt management increasing our room for player salaries, allow us to front load more, sures up Cotch and Martin to stay forever at Tigerland as well as Grimes etc..The direction is clearer and everybody at RFC will know what we need to do and the projected time frames as the age profiles are a lot more similar with similar goal aspirations as will the fans be clearer where we are going. The other thing it is not just about Omeara and co but the other recruits we can get in the next 5 years which wipes out any risk you fear. What is really going on here is turning over the Wallace era, so in terms of list time frames Martin is the new Lids and we are trying to build the list from him where we failed to do with Lids. We need to do this to get a premiership team together and the GWS opportunity de-risks us from the poor recruiting we had after Lids!!!

1. The risks are necesary Santa because we are looking at a premiership maybe in 6 years time when Lids is 30 and Foley older. So in effect there is no risk of losing a premiership opportunity. The fabric concept is another immeasurable concept to promote an argument without substance IMO. If anything RFC has nothing to lose!!!

We are not putting the basket on Vick and Griff because we will be chasing forwards for the next 8 years with high draft opportunities that will eventuate as our higher profile players initially depart. Anyway we can trade Lids and Foley etc... without JR. Don't worry I rate them all and JR high as well, if Tigerland does not get the high fair value he is worth such a trade would not eventuate nor would it if JR and Lids/Foley wants to stay. The other thing is JR could come back after 6 years or so because GWS, GC and RFC will have the players to trade amongst themselves as it suits them for the next decade!!

Santa you talk about Fabric and you say GC and GWS have gone past us. If Lids stays with RFC and Foley what about the natural discontent about longing for a premiership they may just miss out on due to the list not coming of age fast enough with enough quality?? With respect we don't want a Melbourne scenario! On top of that there is the risk of free agency and Carlton for example chasing Lids or whoever at the back end when Judd retires so we might not have him anyway. The other thing is when Lids and Foley might get an opportunity for the premiership it will be bang on when GWS and GC are very strong. This being the case their is a risk we actually keep them, no disrespect, because we all have a lot of man love for them as Tiger players!!

The point is as traders say, with players as commodities/assets, you 'buy straw hats in winter' and 'buy umbrellas in summer' to get value and advantage over your competitors!! The fact is if we are at least 4 years away it is a risk not to trade Lids and Foley etc... and not get the likes of O'meara who will be just entering their prime. If GWS look more like of a premiership before us, particularly if JR goes to them in 2012, these players are worth more to GWS than RFC as well apart from marketing and putting bums on seats, leadership, direction, and belief . And if GWS can win a premiership in 6 years don't tell me AFL HQ will not be over the moon penetrating the Sydney scene with all the money it brings. IF AFL HQ can get something to help the comp they will fall over themselves to do it as they have shown and RFC are in the box seat to help them out for our benefit to help us in turn win the holy grail in our time!!!

 

[nut]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

We will need a second rebuild... may as well do it sooner rather than later..

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

We will need a second rebuild... may as well do it sooner rather than later..

I agree but more because of Cotch, Martin and the youngsters we already have to grow!

 

[Bird Man]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

I agree but more because of Cotch, Martin and the youngsters we already have to grow!

I'm really sick of this we need to win soon

I'm tired of being sh!t so I would be willing to do what ever is possible to win a flag in the next three years.

WE WILL NOT TRADE LIDS FOLEY OR JACK SOOO STOP SUGGESTING IT

Use what we have, not get rid of it

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

I'm really sick of this we need to win soon

I'm tired of being sh!t so I would be willing to do what ever is possible to win a flag in the next three years.

WE WILL NOT TRADE LIDS FOLEY OR JACK SOOO STOP SUGGESTING IT

Use what we have, not get rid of it

This is what Santa talks about when he refers to patience. THERE IS NO WAY WE WILL WIN A PREMIERSHIP IN 3 YEARS SO STOP SUGGESTING IT!!

The RFC promote this line to get bums on seats not realising what the fans want is hope, belief and a journey, not a piped up dream. I think some need to do a survey!

It is high time some thought about what is best for the club, the players and supporters long term and not themselves and the required decisions should become clearer!!

 

[Bird Man]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

This is what Santa talks about when he refers to patience. THERE IS NO WAY WE WILL WIN A PREMIERSHIP IN 3 YEARS SO STOP SUGGESTING IT!!

The RFC promote this line to get bums on seats not realising what the fans want is hope, belief and a journey, not a piped up dream. I think some need to do a survey!

It is high time some thought about what is best for the club, the players and supporters long term and not themselves and the required decisions should become clearer!!

Guarantee you that the RFC will not give up any stars in our list for draft picks. Constancy is our problem and we lack leadership and a few key position players which we need to find with our draft picks not another stupid rebuild

Clubs thrive on members give up jack lids and others we will loose 10000 to 15000 members putting us into the dark years that we have been through

So just forget trading these players because you so valiantly stated this club needs hope and you ironically want to trade that hope for draftees that MAY be as good or better

 

[LuKe2428]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

First pick (10) + Second pick (30) For Zac Clarke and First pick (16)
Surely we can get that across the line. Freo get an upgrade on thier first pick and gain a second.
Richmond downgrade's thier first pick (not by much though) and get a quality ruckman who will be top 5-10 rucks in the next year or 2.

 

[THE_GUN]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

First pick (10) + Second pick (30) For Zac Clarke and First pick (16)
Surely we can get that across the line. Freo get an upgrade on thier first pick and gain a second.
Richmond downgrade's thier first pick (not by much though) and get a quality ruckman who will be top 5-10 rucks in the next year or 2.

Thursfield + pick 30 would be my preffered option,Im all for getting the kid but still not a superstar to warrant downgrading our first pick yet.

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Guarantee you that the RFC will not give up any stars in our list for draft picks. Constancy is our problem and we lack leadership and a few key position players which we need to find with our draft picks not another stupid rebuild

Clubs thrive on members give up jack lids and others we will loose 10000 to 15000 members putting us into the dark years that we have been through

So just forget trading these players because you so valiantly stated this club needs hope and you ironically want to trade that hope for draftees that MAY be as good or better

Listen here!!!! Don't tell me what to do!!!!

The last thing RFC needs is control freaks and maybe that is the problem, is there too much empire building and not enough respect for others????

If we lost so many members for trading Lids and JR who would want to go and it is in the clubs and their benefits any members that depart are not worth it anyway!! You can promote the fear argument all you want , what isn't being promoted it solutions for the clubs success!!!

Hope does not rest with one or to players, and if it does there will be know premiership to win with such a belief system!

 

[LuKe2428]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Thursfield + pick 30 would be my preffered option,Im all for getting the kid but still not a superstar to warrant downgrading our first pick yet.

Who the hell would want Thursfield? I'd rather a whitches hat...
We are only trading down 6 pick's....

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

I'm really sick of this we need to win soon

I'm tired of being sh!t so I would be willing to do what ever is possible to win a flag in the next three years.

WE WILL NOT TRADE LIDS FOLEY OR JACK SOOO STOP SUGGESTING IT

Use what we have, not get rid of it

Since you are so adamant what RFC will be doing,you must be running the show. So how are we going with the debt and when do you think RFC will be debt free??? What does the budget forecast regarding our debt elimination regarding timelines??

 

[Damo80]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Thursfield + pick 30 would be my preffered option,Im all for getting the kid but still not a superstar to warrant downgrading our first pick yet.

I agree. 2nd rounder + any one of our tall defenders, with the exception of Rance. Gourdis is a WA boy, but probably done his dash after his VFL incident.

 

[Damo80]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Who the hell would want Thursfield? I'd rather a whitches hat...
We are only trading down 6 pick's....

Looking at the phantom draft, that could be significant. There's some promising sounding kids that should be available in the first 10 to 15 picks.

 

[Bird Man]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Since you are so adamant what RFC will be doing,you must be running the show. So how are we going with the debt and when do you think RFC will be debt free??? What does the budget forecast regarding our debt elimination regarding timelines??

Haha I wish I was running the show but sadly I'm not.. But mate I just use logic do you really think the club will trade 3of it's best 6 players ? I don't think so and especially of they want to stay rather than go.

Lids and jack bleed black and yellow

 

[Mr Magic]

Re: What will we do with our 1st round draft pick?

Haha I wish I was running the show but sadly I'm not.. But mate I just use logic do you really think the club will trade 3of it's best 6 players ? I don't think so and especially of they want to stay rather than go.

Lids and jack bleed black and yellow

if that is the case they stay. end of story.

It is just options to help people get what they want and the most for themselves!!