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Re: drafting
And the complaining about missing out on Heppel would have been worse. Seriously, this club can't win with our supporters. Surprised there aren't complaints about Martin yet.
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We don't complain about the Martin selection(we are not complaining about Conca or Tambling but the timing of their selection remember) because we se ourselves as objective and fair and the Martin selection at 3 was not a stuff up to be fair IMO even if he goes off the boil and amounts to nothing moving forward!
We don't complain about the Martin selection(we are not complaining about Conca or Tambling but the timing of their selection remember) because we se ourselves as objective and fair and the Martin selection at 3 was not a stuff up to be fair IMO even if he goes off the boil and amounts to nothing moving forward!
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My comments about Martin, FFS, should I have added a
Complaints about the timing, means your saying the player isn't good enough to be taken at that pick. Jimmy clearly said we should have downgraded our first round pick to a later first round or another second round pick and taken Conca. Essentially saying he's not good enough to have been taken at 6.
My comments about Martin, FFS, should I have added a
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Complaints about the timing, means your saying the player isn't good enough to be taken at that pick. Jimmy clearly said we should have downgraded our first round pick to a later first round or another second round pick and taken Conca. Essentially saying he's not good enough to have been taken at 6.
My comments about Martin, FFS, should I have added a
Arhhhh I'm not saying he isn't good enough I'm saying we didn't need to spend pick 6 to get him because he was flying under the radar of most clubs due to injury etc. And hence could have used this knowledge to our advantage. Look just forget it... CBF'D
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Re: drafting
Lets face facts. Doesn't matter anymore. Conca is a tiger. Heppell is a bomber. Move on.
This off season I would look at trading any of the following for 2nd rounders: Edwards (early 2nd), Jackson (mid 2nd), Morton (late 2nd). Delist...Farmer, McGuane, Nason, Graham, Taylor, Webberley. Let's say we trade 1 of them for roughly pick 40. And presuming other teams aren't taking many picks we would have 10, 35,40,52, 60, 65, PSD.
Add to that cleaning out Hislop, Hicks, Contin, Westhoff.
These are the players to go after taken from the Phantom Drafts board.
#9 GWS - Elliot Kavanagh (VIC - Mid)
Height: 187cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 19/05/1993
Recruited from: Western Jets
Style: David Mundy
Player comparison:
Range: 4-15
Profile: Missed the champs with injury but still a standout talent in this years draft and could still be a top 4 choice. Good all rounder. Quick mid who is also a very good ball user and has those footy smarts and cleanness. Solid ball winner. Past performances suggest that he will be a top 10 selection. Will be interesting to see whether he performs well for the rest of the season.
#7 GWS - Elliot Kavanagh (187cm midfielder - Western Jets)
After missing a fair chunk of the year through injury, I'm being conservative here because I simply haven't seen enough of him. Media hype has him pushing top five, but I wont put someone I have seen limited vision of that high. He is the complete midfielder though - reading the play, clean hands, speed and foot skills. AFL Comparison: Colin Sylvia.
#28 GWS – Sam Kerridge (VIC - Mid)
Height: 188cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 26/04/1993
Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
Style: Chris Judd
Player comparison:
Range: 15-45
Profile: Really powerful midfielder. Racks up big numbers in the midfield and this kid is a serious jet. Has an immense burst of speed and was very unlucky not to get games for Vic Country. Has that trademark Judd type explosive speed. Always looks dangerous when he gets near it and gets big clearance numbers. Strong mark overhead. Really great size and can get amongst the goals. Don’t be surprised to see him push into the first round. Maybe I just overrate him, but this guy is a serious talent!
#37 Essendon - Sam Kerridge (188cm midfielder - Bendigo)
Kerridge is a versatile and talented midfielder, who can play both inside and head up forward too. Captain of Bendigo and a member of the AIS Academy, he'll be looking for a strong finish to the season to cement his position in the draft. I imagine he may need a season or two to fully develop and push for selection. AFL Comparison: Michael Rischitelli.
#44 Geelong – Sam Gordon (VIC – KPF/KPD)
Height: 197cm, Weight: 87kg, DOB: 31/03/1993
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Style: Travis Cloke
Player comparison:
Range: 25-late
Profile: Great height for a key position forward and big potential. Big marking forward who has shown great improvement with his marking and it is a real strength to his game now. The other thing that stands out with Gordon is his field kicking. Has a big left foot kick. Set shot kicking on goal still needs some work, can get big hauls but needs to do it more consistently.
#41 Carlton - Sam Gordon (197cm forward - Geelong)
There is a lot to like with Gordon, he will likely push the 200cm mark and his attack on the ball is really good. More importantly though, is his marking and work in one-on-one situations which is improving with every game. Kicking on goal can still be hit and miss, one day will kick 5.0 then the next will kick 1.4. AFL Comparison: Kurt Tippett.
#50 Adelaide – Josh Tynan (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 184cm, Weight: 72kg, DOB: 06/11/1993
Recruited from: Gippsland Power
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 35-rookie
Profile: Really good reader of the play. Strong overhead. Gives great effort around the ground and works really hard. Speedy. Very good 1v1. Good ball user. Quality outside type player.
#52 Melbourne - Josh Tynan (184cm defender - Gippsland)
Really strong and composed player, Tynan made the half back line his home during the Championships. Tynan could become a solid small defender, and his contested ball work is up there with the best in the draft. But he is also a strong mark, and wont back down from a contest. Whether he develops into anything more than a solid defender is the question. AFL Comparison: Jacob Surjan.
#60 Carlton – Tom Sundberg (VIC - Util)
Height: 183cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 22/12/1988
Recruited from: Collingwood VFL
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 35-rookie
Profile: One of the best players going around in the VFL. Has had a seriously good year for the Collingwood VFL side. Really versatile player who can play midfield, back or forward and play to a high level. Uses it so well on his left and rarely misses a target. Immediate player who is ready to play senior footy now.
#73 Essendon – Tyson Thomas (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 181cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 24/01/1990
Recruited from: Northern Bullants
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 45-rookie
Profile: Son of Grant Thomas but don’t let that put you off. Has great pace. Is a really good user of the footy and has that x-factor. Clean ball winning midfielder. Really good reader of the play. Has shown that he can have an impact up forward as well as through the midfield. Incredibly draftable!
Push either Alipate Carlile or John Butcher to the PSD as the 1st Vic club with a pick. Offer them big contract for 1 year then small money next 2 years after.
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#68 Adelaide – Dayne Zorko (QLD – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 176cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB:
Recruited from: Broadbeach
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 45-rookie
Profile: On the short side which is why he has been overlooked in the past, but really like this kids game. Has dominated in the QLD league for a while now. Versatile type player who can play forward, midfield or even back if necessary. Really like him as a small forward who can be part of a midfield rotation though. In QLD he is so dominant that he gets tagged and still will receive B.O.G honours with regularity. Really good user of the footy. Big time stoppage player. Wins his own ball. Tackles like a machine and can hit the scoreboard with regularity. Is those few years older, but he can play now.
#66 Brisbane - Dayne Zorko (176cm forward - Broadbeach)
22 year old small forward/midfielder from Queensland, and I think he would make both Queensland sides at the moment. Height is the only thing holding him back, but in the state game against WA this year he had 23 touches and kicked four goals. At AFL level, he'll play as a small forward and he kicked 12 goals in a game playing that role last season for Broadbeach. AFL Comparison: Ian Callinan.
#86 Richmond – Jay Lever (VIC - Ruck)
Height: 200cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 15/06/1993
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: late-rookie
Profile: Outside of Longer and Bolger is probably the next best ruck prospect. Can play some forward and get amongst the goals. Project.
#67 Richmond - Jay Lever (200cm ruckman - Geelong)
Not a great draft for ruckmen this one. There are the gun ruck prospects, and some mature aged types around the country too. While of the 18 year olds, Lever would be my #3. Has been one of Geelong's better and more consistent players, and has shown signs of being able to go forward too. AFL Comparison: Ivan Maric.
#96 Carlton – Ben Duscher (VIC - Mid/Fwd)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 83kg
Recruited from: Bendigo Bombers
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: late-undrafted
Profile: Long kicking midfielder. Duel sided. Good vision. Strong overhead. Another of those really draftable mature agers.
#97 Hawthorn – Sam Gibson (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 184cm, Weight: 81kg, 27/5/1986
Recruited from: Box Hill (VFL)
Style: Chris Knights
Player comparison:
Range: late-undrafted
Profile: Captain of the Box Hill Hawks. Is that goal kicking type midfielder with the powerful left boot.
Other rookie options: Nathan Batsanis/Malcolm Lynch/Callum Sinclair
Kavanagh-Taylor
Kerridge-Jackson
Gordon-Graham
Tynan-Farmer
Sundberg-Nason
Thomas-Webberley
Butcher/Carlile-McGuane
Zorko/Lynch-Hicks
Lever/Sinclair-Westhoff
2 of Duscher/Gibson/Batsanis-Contin/Hislop
Lets face facts. Doesn't matter anymore. Conca is a tiger. Heppell is a bomber. Move on.
This off season I would look at trading any of the following for 2nd rounders: Edwards (early 2nd), Jackson (mid 2nd), Morton (late 2nd). Delist...Farmer, McGuane, Nason, Graham, Taylor, Webberley. Let's say we trade 1 of them for roughly pick 40. And presuming other teams aren't taking many picks we would have 10, 35,40,52, 60, 65, PSD.
Add to that cleaning out Hislop, Hicks, Contin, Westhoff.
These are the players to go after taken from the Phantom Drafts board.
#9 GWS - Elliot Kavanagh (VIC - Mid)
Height: 187cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB: 19/05/1993
Recruited from: Western Jets
Style: David Mundy
Player comparison:
Range: 4-15
Profile: Missed the champs with injury but still a standout talent in this years draft and could still be a top 4 choice. Good all rounder. Quick mid who is also a very good ball user and has those footy smarts and cleanness. Solid ball winner. Past performances suggest that he will be a top 10 selection. Will be interesting to see whether he performs well for the rest of the season.
#7 GWS - Elliot Kavanagh (187cm midfielder - Western Jets)
After missing a fair chunk of the year through injury, I'm being conservative here because I simply haven't seen enough of him. Media hype has him pushing top five, but I wont put someone I have seen limited vision of that high. He is the complete midfielder though - reading the play, clean hands, speed and foot skills. AFL Comparison: Colin Sylvia.
#28 GWS – Sam Kerridge (VIC - Mid)
Height: 188cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 26/04/1993
Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
Style: Chris Judd
Player comparison:
Range: 15-45
Profile: Really powerful midfielder. Racks up big numbers in the midfield and this kid is a serious jet. Has an immense burst of speed and was very unlucky not to get games for Vic Country. Has that trademark Judd type explosive speed. Always looks dangerous when he gets near it and gets big clearance numbers. Strong mark overhead. Really great size and can get amongst the goals. Don’t be surprised to see him push into the first round. Maybe I just overrate him, but this guy is a serious talent!
#37 Essendon - Sam Kerridge (188cm midfielder - Bendigo)
Kerridge is a versatile and talented midfielder, who can play both inside and head up forward too. Captain of Bendigo and a member of the AIS Academy, he'll be looking for a strong finish to the season to cement his position in the draft. I imagine he may need a season or two to fully develop and push for selection. AFL Comparison: Michael Rischitelli.
#44 Geelong – Sam Gordon (VIC – KPF/KPD)
Height: 197cm, Weight: 87kg, DOB: 31/03/1993
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Style: Travis Cloke
Player comparison:
Range: 25-late
Profile: Great height for a key position forward and big potential. Big marking forward who has shown great improvement with his marking and it is a real strength to his game now. The other thing that stands out with Gordon is his field kicking. Has a big left foot kick. Set shot kicking on goal still needs some work, can get big hauls but needs to do it more consistently.
#41 Carlton - Sam Gordon (197cm forward - Geelong)
There is a lot to like with Gordon, he will likely push the 200cm mark and his attack on the ball is really good. More importantly though, is his marking and work in one-on-one situations which is improving with every game. Kicking on goal can still be hit and miss, one day will kick 5.0 then the next will kick 1.4. AFL Comparison: Kurt Tippett.
#50 Adelaide – Josh Tynan (VIC – Mid/Def)
Height: 184cm, Weight: 72kg, DOB: 06/11/1993
Recruited from: Gippsland Power
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 35-rookie
Profile: Really good reader of the play. Strong overhead. Gives great effort around the ground and works really hard. Speedy. Very good 1v1. Good ball user. Quality outside type player.
#52 Melbourne - Josh Tynan (184cm defender - Gippsland)
Really strong and composed player, Tynan made the half back line his home during the Championships. Tynan could become a solid small defender, and his contested ball work is up there with the best in the draft. But he is also a strong mark, and wont back down from a contest. Whether he develops into anything more than a solid defender is the question. AFL Comparison: Jacob Surjan.
#60 Carlton – Tom Sundberg (VIC - Util)
Height: 183cm, Weight: 84kg, DOB: 22/12/1988
Recruited from: Collingwood VFL
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 35-rookie
Profile: One of the best players going around in the VFL. Has had a seriously good year for the Collingwood VFL side. Really versatile player who can play midfield, back or forward and play to a high level. Uses it so well on his left and rarely misses a target. Immediate player who is ready to play senior footy now.
#73 Essendon – Tyson Thomas (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 181cm, Weight: 79kg, DOB: 24/01/1990
Recruited from: Northern Bullants
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 45-rookie
Profile: Son of Grant Thomas but don’t let that put you off. Has great pace. Is a really good user of the footy and has that x-factor. Clean ball winning midfielder. Really good reader of the play. Has shown that he can have an impact up forward as well as through the midfield. Incredibly draftable!
Push either Alipate Carlile or John Butcher to the PSD as the 1st Vic club with a pick. Offer them big contract for 1 year then small money next 2 years after.
ROOKIES
#68 Adelaide – Dayne Zorko (QLD – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 176cm, Weight: 78kg, DOB:
Recruited from: Broadbeach
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: 45-rookie
Profile: On the short side which is why he has been overlooked in the past, but really like this kids game. Has dominated in the QLD league for a while now. Versatile type player who can play forward, midfield or even back if necessary. Really like him as a small forward who can be part of a midfield rotation though. In QLD he is so dominant that he gets tagged and still will receive B.O.G honours with regularity. Really good user of the footy. Big time stoppage player. Wins his own ball. Tackles like a machine and can hit the scoreboard with regularity. Is those few years older, but he can play now.
#66 Brisbane - Dayne Zorko (176cm forward - Broadbeach)
22 year old small forward/midfielder from Queensland, and I think he would make both Queensland sides at the moment. Height is the only thing holding him back, but in the state game against WA this year he had 23 touches and kicked four goals. At AFL level, he'll play as a small forward and he kicked 12 goals in a game playing that role last season for Broadbeach. AFL Comparison: Ian Callinan.
#86 Richmond – Jay Lever (VIC - Ruck)
Height: 200cm, Weight: 86kg, DOB: 15/06/1993
Recruited from: Geelong Falcons
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: late-rookie
Profile: Outside of Longer and Bolger is probably the next best ruck prospect. Can play some forward and get amongst the goals. Project.
#67 Richmond - Jay Lever (200cm ruckman - Geelong)
Not a great draft for ruckmen this one. There are the gun ruck prospects, and some mature aged types around the country too. While of the 18 year olds, Lever would be my #3. Has been one of Geelong's better and more consistent players, and has shown signs of being able to go forward too. AFL Comparison: Ivan Maric.
#96 Carlton – Ben Duscher (VIC - Mid/Fwd)
Height: 186cm, Weight: 83kg
Recruited from: Bendigo Bombers
Style:
Player comparison:
Range: late-undrafted
Profile: Long kicking midfielder. Duel sided. Good vision. Strong overhead. Another of those really draftable mature agers.
#97 Hawthorn – Sam Gibson (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 184cm, Weight: 81kg, 27/5/1986
Recruited from: Box Hill (VFL)
Style: Chris Knights
Player comparison:
Range: late-undrafted
Profile: Captain of the Box Hill Hawks. Is that goal kicking type midfielder with the powerful left boot.
Other rookie options: Nathan Batsanis/Malcolm Lynch/Callum Sinclair
Kavanagh-Taylor
Kerridge-Jackson
Gordon-Graham
Tynan-Farmer
Sundberg-Nason
Thomas-Webberley
Butcher/Carlile-McGuane
Zorko/Lynch-Hicks
Lever/Sinclair-Westhoff
2 of Duscher/Gibson/Batsanis-Contin/Hislop
Re: drafting
Hope we give Wheeler a rookie spot if he's still available.
Hope we give Wheeler a rookie spot if he's still available.
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Re: drafting
Spot on... if this is a weak draft then clubs will turn to the VFL to strengthen their list. i hope the Tigers go for Ahmed Saad. Could be the Jeff Garlett type we have been screaming for. Rumour has it though that GWS are interested in the kid. He has kicked a lot of goals this season (in a good team) but looks very dangerous at ground level. Would love to have him at Jack and Ty's feet
Spot on... if this is a weak draft then clubs will turn to the VFL to strengthen their list. i hope the Tigers go for Ahmed Saad. Could be the Jeff Garlett type we have been screaming for. Rumour has it though that GWS are interested in the kid. He has kicked a lot of goals this season (in a good team) but looks very dangerous at ground level. Would love to have him at Jack and Ty's feet
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Re: drafting
Saad might be a good player (haven't really seen much of him), but a few years ago Nahas was tearing it up in the VFL, and we drafted him. I think he's earnt his spot on the list, and in the side, yet people are calling for him to be delisted.... maybe you're not one of them, but I don't understand the logic of delisting/trading Nahas, and then bringing in another small forward type in his place and start the process over again, and I can't see there's a spot for another of that type player if we're hanging onto King and Nahas. If we're drafting from the VFL (and other state leagues), I think it should be for a midfielder that can step straight in at AFL level. Or a ruck, of course!
So, he's like Nahas less a coupla years AFL experience?
Saad might be a good player (haven't really seen much of him), but a few years ago Nahas was tearing it up in the VFL, and we drafted him. I think he's earnt his spot on the list, and in the side, yet people are calling for him to be delisted.... maybe you're not one of them, but I don't understand the logic of delisting/trading Nahas, and then bringing in another small forward type in his place and start the process over again, and I can't see there's a spot for another of that type player if we're hanging onto King and Nahas. If we're drafting from the VFL (and other state leagues), I think it should be for a midfielder that can step straight in at AFL level. Or a ruck, of course!
Re: drafting
I Really dont want anymore short people in the team !
Nahas,Nason,Webberly,King,White,Edwards,FoleyFarmer,Houli all under 182cm.
Shouldnt have anymore than 5 i believe & The 5 would need to be special.
I Really dont want anymore short people in the team !
Nahas,Nason,Webberly,King,White,Edwards,FoleyFarmer,Houli all under 182cm.
Shouldnt have anymore than 5 i believe & The 5 would need to be special.
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Agree we don't need any more short people.
We can only get players this size only if exceptional. Can't flirt with small forwards either, they gotta be good
Thats why with someone like omeara 182 we know he is high quality
Agree we don't need any more short people.
We can only get players this size only if exceptional. Can't flirt with small forwards either, they gotta be good
Thats why with someone like omeara 182 we know he is high quality
Re: drafting
quality smalls are ok , but must be top tier quality which O'Meara is touted to be.
But really believe that 3 of my list above will need to be gone.
quality smalls are ok , but must be top tier quality which O'Meara is touted to be.
But really believe that 3 of my list above will need to be gone.
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I agree some on the list should be delisted, some could be traded and others keep as just depth players short term
I agree some on the list should be delisted, some could be traded and others keep as just depth players short term
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Do those Frances Jackson baggers still want him sacked?
Here is a team he has assembled since arriving.
B: Grimes (20) Rance (21) Helbig (19)
HB: Batchelor (19) Astbury (20) Houli (23)
C: Grigg (23) Cotchin (21) Edwards (22)
HF: Connors (22) Griffiths (19) Nahas (23)
F: King (27) Riewoldt (22) Post (21)
FOLL: Vickery (21) Martin (20) Conca (19)
INTER: Browne (21) Dea (19) Hicks (19) MacDonald (19)
Most players don’t peak until 24/25 and 18 of these players are 22 or Under!
Do those Frances Jackson baggers still want him sacked?
Here is a team he has assembled since arriving.
B: Grimes (20) Rance (21) Helbig (19)
HB: Batchelor (19) Astbury (20) Houli (23)
C: Grigg (23) Cotchin (21) Edwards (22)
HF: Connors (22) Griffiths (19) Nahas (23)
F: King (27) Riewoldt (22) Post (21)
FOLL: Vickery (21) Martin (20) Conca (19)
INTER: Browne (21) Dea (19) Hicks (19) MacDonald (19)
Most players don’t peak until 24/25 and 18 of these players are 22 or Under!
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Says you?????
That team can peak and we will not be near a premiership!! Does that answer your question???
Says you?????
That team can peak and we will not be near a premiership!! Does that answer your question???
Re: drafting
Hahaha.
Average age of some recent Premiership Teams -
Collingwood - 24
Geelong - 26
Hawthorn - 24
Geelong - 25
West Coast - 25
Sydney -25
Port Adelaide - 27
Brisbane - 26
Says you?????
That team can peak and we will not be near a premiership!! Does that answer your question???
Hahaha.
Average age of some recent Premiership Teams -
Collingwood - 24
Geelong - 26
Hawthorn - 24
Geelong - 25
West Coast - 25
Sydney -25
Port Adelaide - 27
Brisbane - 26
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Our list isnt near as good as those even for young ones????
Hahaha.
Average age of some recent Premiership Teams -
Collingwood - 24
Geelong - 26
Hawthorn - 24
Geelong - 25
West Coast - 25
Sydney -25
Port Adelaide - 27
Brisbane - 26
Our list isnt near as good as those even for young ones????
Re: drafting
Reminds me of when someone said Rance has a little bit of Steve Silvagni in him and then people went to town about him being mentioned in the same breath. Kinda missing the point!
Gotta love Big Footy. Having a discussion about one thing (in this case average age that teams peak) and then a different argument is made on a different issue (that the above young Richmond team is not as good as those Premiership teams, even for young ones.)Our list isnt near as good as those even for young ones????
Reminds me of when someone said Rance has a little bit of Steve Silvagni in him and then people went to town about him being mentioned in the same breath. Kinda missing the point!
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So what is your association with FJ anyway since you are desperate to blow his trumpet???
So what is your association with FJ anyway since you are desperate to blow his trumpet???
Re: drafting
Haha.
Just find it amusing that highly rated blokes in the industry like Cambo and Frances Jackson get slagged off constantly but when some light at the end of the tunnel appears (like Martin, Vickery, Batchelor, Helbig, Dea, Rance, Grimes, Houli etc) that no one gives a balanced few and gives them any credit. (Apart from a surprisingly complementary article on Rance/Cambo in the Herald Sun yesterday).
Haha.
Just find it amusing that highly rated blokes in the industry like Cambo and Frances Jackson get slagged off constantly but when some light at the end of the tunnel appears (like Martin, Vickery, Batchelor, Helbig, Dea, Rance, Grimes, Houli etc) that no one gives a balanced few and gives them any credit. (Apart from a surprisingly complementary article on Rance/Cambo in the Herald Sun yesterday).
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Well FJ track record is there to see???
Who knows how Campbell is going ????
Since you avoided the question I take it you are looking at this personally??
Well FJ track record is there to see???
Who knows how Campbell is going ????
Since you avoided the question I take it you are looking at this personally??
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Re: drafting
You are both right to an extent. No, that team wouldn't make it to a premiership it still has massive holes. But, FJ is doing a very good job. You have to remember the coach tells him the TYPE of players he wants and FJ finds them for him.
His first draft in charge was 2006: Riewoldt then skinny flankers Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins.
2007 he started to take bigger bodies Cotchin and Rance.
2008 he took Vickery and Post. (not sure if Hislop counts as FJ or someone else as he was on an AFL list already?)
2009 when Dimma took over we seemed to pick up a lot of big bodies that could kick a footy in Martin, Griffiths, Astbury, Dea. Taylor was only picked as he was too talented to let slip. Webberley and Nason weren't great picks but they were 67 and 71.
Also picked Grimes in PSD.
2010 Conca and Batchelor both look like they will fill out to good sizes as will Helbig. MacDonald is solid size as is Derickx.
The one thing he hasn't embraced is the rookie draft. Would like to improve our hit rate in that.
You are both right to an extent. No, that team wouldn't make it to a premiership it still has massive holes. But, FJ is doing a very good job. You have to remember the coach tells him the TYPE of players he wants and FJ finds them for him.
His first draft in charge was 2006: Riewoldt then skinny flankers Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins.
2007 he started to take bigger bodies Cotchin and Rance.
2008 he took Vickery and Post. (not sure if Hislop counts as FJ or someone else as he was on an AFL list already?)
2009 when Dimma took over we seemed to pick up a lot of big bodies that could kick a footy in Martin, Griffiths, Astbury, Dea. Taylor was only picked as he was too talented to let slip. Webberley and Nason weren't great picks but they were 67 and 71.
Also picked Grimes in PSD.
2010 Conca and Batchelor both look like they will fill out to good sizes as will Helbig. MacDonald is solid size as is Derickx.
The one thing he hasn't embraced is the rookie draft. Would like to improve our hit rate in that.
Re: drafting
Nah, but I did just watch an interview on youtube with Richo and Frances Jackson. He is a dead ringer for Mike Sheahan! (Frances Jackson that is).
It was one of the best one on one Richo has done. I like that Jackson said you don't just cast a wide net for the sake of it, we have some knowledgeable recruiters seeing 8 games a week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGOWDe4H8Xk
Well FJ track record is there to see???
Who knows how Campbell is going ????
Since you avoided the question I take it you are looking at this personally??
Nah, but I did just watch an interview on youtube with Richo and Frances Jackson. He is a dead ringer for Mike Sheahan! (Frances Jackson that is).
It was one of the best one on one Richo has done. I like that Jackson said you don't just cast a wide net for the sake of it, we have some knowledgeable recruiters seeing 8 games a week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGOWDe4H8Xk
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Interesting I must say and I am sure other clubs follow similar strategies.
One thing I will say is there appears to be an over emphasis on skills.
For example football ability(including skills/brains) would be top of my list then, then physical( not just athletic but height, agility, speed etc...) then a skill filter.
For example Farmer and White/Nason would not pass my filter as wouldn't get through the football ability and physical barriers although white was got on the cheap whereas a Polo would be given more time as his skill develops relatively speaking.
Who was the guy we missed on who play 3 rounds for GC?
Nah, but I did just watch an interview on youtube with Richo and Frances Jackson. He is a dead ringer for Mike Sheahan! (Frances Jackson that is).
It was one of the best one on one Richo has done. I like that Jackson said you don't just cast a wide net for the sake of it, we have some knowledgeable recruiters seeing 8 games a week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGOWDe4H8Xk
Interesting I must say and I am sure other clubs follow similar strategies.
One thing I will say is there appears to be an over emphasis on skills.
For example football ability(including skills/brains) would be top of my list then, then physical( not just athletic but height, agility, speed etc...) then a skill filter.
For example Farmer and White/Nason would not pass my filter as wouldn't get through the football ability and physical barriers although white was got on the cheap whereas a Polo would be given more time as his skill develops relatively speaking.
Who was the guy we missed on who play 3 rounds for GC?
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