List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[eaglevision]

Post on the tigers board, no idea if legitimate but other posters seem to think his mail is ok.

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We are very interested in a crop of Indigenous boys. We sent the KGI team to WA a couple of months ago to meet and spend time with them and we love a kid called Pickett. I expect he will be taken with whatever pick 38 ends up being. We are certain to use that pick on an Indigenous kid and will probably bid on some of the west coast academy players here if they haven’t been selected yet but Pickett is the kid we want.

The club loved what we did bringing players that had played together in last year and particularly the bond it has created amongst the kids at the club.

The plan is replicate that again this year but this time it will be with a batch of boys from SA.

Our hope is that WC take Dursma and CDT or Robey because we will be taking Sharp and Cumming at 3 & 4. We will take Sharp of the board with pick 3 immediately and then try to turn pick 4 into pick 5 with a trade with Essendon for them to take either CDT or Robey whoever the eagles don’t take. Our aim is to get a future 2nd and Essendons pick to help with our academy stuff next year.
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To be honest if I were Richmond this is exactly what I would hope for and do.

 

[Hazardinho]

Post on the tigers board, no idea if legitimate but other posters seem to think his mail is ok.

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We are very interested in a crop of Indigenous boys. We sent the KGI team to WA a couple of months ago to meet and spend time with them and we love a kid called Pickett. I expect he will be taken with whatever pick 38 ends up being. We are certain to use that pick on an Indigenous kid and will probably bid on some of the west coast academy players here if they haven’t been selected yet but Pickett is the kid we want.

The club loved what we did bringing players that had played together in last year and particularly the bond it has created amongst the kids at the club.

The plan is replicate that again this year but this time it will be with a batch of boys from SA.

Our hope is that WC take Dursma and CDT or Robey because we will be taking Sharp and Cumming at 3 & 4. We will take Sharp of the board with pick 3 immediately and then try to turn pick 4 into pick 5 with a trade with Essendon for them to take either CDT or Robey whoever the eagles don’t take. Our aim is to get a future 2nd and Essendons pick to help with our academy stuff next year.
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Told be honest if I was Richmond this is exactly what I would hope for and do.

Don’t let Essendon get Robey because I’m coming for all you eagles fans who said Essendon had to trade picks 5, 6 and a future first for your pick 2.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

If AA forward and potential captain Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

28

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

lasts to the very end, surely Banners Jnr does too.

 

[Boohemian]

Don’t let Essendon get Robey because I’m coming for all you eagles fans who said Essendon had to trade picks 5, 6 and a future first for your pick 2.

Because you're a hindsight hero?

There aren't any certainties with how things pan out with the draft, but if Essendon have such a hard on for either CDT or Robey they get as close to certainty as they can by trading up to 2. We're well within our rights to ask for 5 & 6 in exchange.

 

[bzparkes]

Don’t let Essendon get Robey because I’m coming for all you eagles fans who said Essendon had to trade picks 5, 6 and a future first for your pick 2.

Having fun 'coming' for one guy then.

NTTAWWT.

 

[eaglevision]

Don’t let Essendon get Robey because I’m coming for all you eagles fans who said Essendon had to trade picks 5, 6 and a future first for your pick 2.

Going to take a long time to find those proposals in over 3,000 posts if you can’t read.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

No input update from yesterday but I have ordered the players L>R from Cal's ranking in the open pool.

It visually shows where the tiers fall off

 

[Farmer Lister]

Not trying to shit stir as I know there are some strong opinions regarding Sharp around here, but they have him ranked as the 11th best player in the draft.

Personally I prefer to skip the academy and f/s players. So they have CDT at 2, Cumming at 5 and Sharp at 7. Very interesting and thorough guide thanks for posting.

I would be very surprised if we picked Sharp at 2. Draft night's going to be interesting that's for sure.

It will be telling when training reports start coming in on Monday and we find out which players are training with the midfield group. Maybe we don't need mids as desperately as a lot of posters think.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I like what RMC do - not always agree but they do the hard yards and attend games.

I though I would share the Athletic and On Field assessments made on the players I am interested in.

They rate each talent by Elite (Maroon), Above Ave (Green), Average (Yellow) and Below Ave (Red)

I personally put more weight on the On Field as you can have all the athletic attributes but do not know how to play the game, it is worth SFA.

Here are the top 16 in the open pool
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I don't have time to go reading the full write up but some of these ratings don't make sense.

Sharp only average endurance despite being able to play as a full time contested mid at u18 level? NHH with an Elite ceiling ranking despite having 3 of athletic attributes as average, and no elite athletic attributes?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Personally I prefer to skip the academy and f/s players. So they have CDT at 2, Cumming at 5 and Sharp at 7. Very interesting and thorough guide thanks for posting.

I would be very surprised if we picked Sharp at 2. Draft night's going to be interesting that's for sure.

It will be telling when training reports start coming in on Monday and we find out which players are training with the midfield group. Maybe we don't need mids as desperately as a lot of posters think.

Training with the mids is great, but if you weren't a high level mid at u18 or WAFL level (with AFL attributes), i doubt you're all of a sudden going to be an elite mid at AFL level even if moved there.

We just don't have enough players that were high level mids at u18/WAFL level.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Post on the tigers board, no idea if legitimate but other posters seem to think his mail is ok.

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We are very interested in a crop of Indigenous boys. We sent the KGI team to WA a couple of months ago to meet and spend time with them and we love a kid called Pickett. I expect he will be taken with whatever pick 38 ends up being. We are certain to use that pick on an Indigenous kid and will probably bid on some of the west coast academy players here if they haven’t been selected yet but Pickett is the kid we want.

The club loved what we did bringing players that had played together in last year and particularly the bond it has created amongst the kids at the club.

The plan is replicate that again this year but this time it will be with a batch of boys from SA.

Our hope is that WC take Dursma and CDT or Robey because we will be taking Sharp and Cumming at 3 & 4. We will take Sharp of the board with pick 3 immediately and then try to turn pick 4 into pick 5 with a trade with Essendon for them to take either CDT or Robey whoever the eagles don’t take. Our aim is to get a future 2nd and Essendons pick to help with our academy stuff next year.
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Told be honest if I was Richmond this is exactly what I would hope for and do.

This is why we just take the 2 guys we want and let everyone else squabble over trades etc

Can literally pick any 2 guys we want, there's zero reason to trade

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

For those thinking we are fine for midfielders, here is my age by position assuming Duursma and our 4 club tied prospects.

Note that I have included a high half forwards column as these roles are evolving as being important. I have moved Kelly out of a permanent mid as I think that is passed him. I also have Hewett and Gross in that grouping as that is where I think they are heading. I have been generous on Allan being a mid - more a wing as I see in 2026 but let's see.

When you run down the list, it is hardly an engine room to worry many teams!!

Just take Sharp would be my call.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

If AA forward and potential captain Jake Waterman lasts to the very end, surely Banners Jnr does too.

Ideally he doesn't get bid on at all and we can add him through the rookie draft.

 

[Farmer Lister]

Training with the mids is great, but if you weren't a high level mid at u18 or WAFL level (with AFL attributes), i doubt you're all of a sudden going to be an elite mid at AFL level even if moved there.

We just don't have enough players that were high level mids at u18/WAFL level.

True but McCarthy looks the goods, Hough was only just finding his feet so could be vastly improved with another preseason. Starc wanted to play in the midfield so he could be a solid option. I actually rate Hall and Brockman a lot higher than most on this board, and Brockman in particular has shown some potential in the middle over the past few years. Bo Allen played midfield in his final year before being drafted too.

Plus as another poster already mentioned, we have Bont 2.0 in Duursma locked in and ready to go. I just don't think the cupboard is as bare as most seem to. I like Sharp, he's a fantastic footballer, and I'd be happy if we picked him. There's no doubt we could use a solid inside ball feeding mid. I'm just not sure I agree that we need him so desperately we would overlook a higher ceiling player.

 

[Farmer Lister]

Oh and besides we've already signed a Larke medal winner. The big shirtless polony himself Devon Robertson.

 

[garlic munchers]

And here are our 3 top NGA prospects and Curtin

They ranked Banfield outside that group which is how I want the draft to treat him. Let him slide through

View attachment 2471326

I feeling sheer delight at the prospect of getting 3 of these and we should all be draping ourselves in positivity about how they will contribute to MEGA.

As to the other prospect, just think he would hang around as a list clogger and we really do need to draw curtains on our obsession with over-rating of local prospects.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Oh and besides we've already signed a Larke medal winner. The big shirtless polony himself Devon Robertson.

But we just lost 2 Larke Medalists - Oscar in 2017 and Sheed 2013

 

[Obeanie1]

With the RMC Ranking of key attributes, it did confirm a few things to me that I saw during th eyear.

If we want to win contested football - just take Sharp.

If we want to player with the most elite rankings - take X Taylor

If we want the HBF with possible midfield potential, don't reach for Farrow as O Taylor offers much the same. As does Barker (he played wing but can play across all three lines)

I am not in the CDT camp and the fact that he is Average for everything On Field summarises how I feel. All his upside is athletic!!! Ranking him as elite ceiling is based on what he does in the gym and track, not what he delivers on the field!! Just saying.

Cumming - bloody good at everything and another contested ball winner.

Greeves - very good but very slow without endurance.

Schubert may have his detractors but there are some thing you just want your KPP'ers to do - aerial dominance, strength, consistency and the contest.

It we end up with 3 top 10 picks I wouldnt be surprised nor dissappointed in landing Schubert.

Duursma
Sharp/Cumming
Schubert

Good spread of talent across three lines.

Upgrade 13 to 9.

Keep 2 and get the exact players we want.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

True but McCarthy looks the goods, Hough was only just finding his feet so could be vastly improved with another preseason. Starc wanted to play in the midfield so he could be a solid option. I actually rate Hall and Brockman a lot higher than most on this board, and Brockman in particular has shown some potential in the middle over the past few years. Bo Allen played midfield in his final year before being drafted too.

Plus as another poster already mentioned, we have Bont 2.0 in Duursma locked in and ready to go. I just don't think the cupboard is as bare as most seem to. I like Sharp, he's a fantastic footballer, and I'd be happy if we picked him. There's no doubt we could use a solid inside ball feeding mid. I'm just not sure I agree that we need him so desperately we would overlook a higher ceiling player.

Oh and besides we've already signed a Larke medal winner. The big shirtless polony himself Devon Robertson.

Oh Jesus if these are the argument that our midfield might actually be ok, we are well and truly ****ed. Just take Sharp.

 

[Barrybran]

we have Bont 2.0 in Duursma locked in and ready to go

I think we need to temper these expectations. Duursma looks like he will be a very good outside player but he's got a journey in front of him to be an inside player.

 

[Hook461123]

For years we drafted in the hybrid zone (picks 7-20) due to being consistently higher up the ladder.
Got players like Venables, XON, Chesser.

Then we’ve also split picks to get in extra talent and still got the hybrid guys in Ginbey, Allan.

Now we’ve got two top picks where you find the elite mids and it still looks like we are going to go the hybrid guys in Duursma and CDT.
It means we’ve got a lot of maybe midfielders in the team.

 

[Obeanie1]

Post on the tigers board, no idea if legitimate but other posters seem to think his mail is ok.

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We are very interested in a crop of Indigenous boys. We sent the KGI team to WA a couple of months ago to meet and spend time with them and we love a kid called Pickett. I expect he will be taken with whatever pick 38 ends up being. We are certain to use that pick on an Indigenous kid and will probably bid on some of the west coast academy players here if they haven’t been selected yet but Pickett is the kid we want.

The club loved what we did bringing players that had played together in last year and particularly the bond it has created amongst the kids at the club.

The plan is replicate that again this year but this time it will be with a batch of boys from SA.

Our hope is that WC take Dursma and CDT or Robey because we will be taking Sharp and Cumming at 3 & 4. We will take Sharp of the board with pick 3 immediately and then try to turn pick 4 into pick 5 with a trade with Essendon for them to take either CDT or Robey whoever the eagles don’t take. Our aim is to get a future 2nd and Essendons pick to help with our academy stuff next year.
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To be honest if I were Richmond this is exactly what I would hope for and do.

Smart drafting by Tigers if they do that.

They need two more inside balanced mids

 

[Keys]

Williams is likely to, Charlie could slip through to Cat A.

Speaking on gettable yesterday in response to a question about Richmond’s F/S (Kellaway), Cal Twomey said he would be a late bid or a rookie listing and included him in a group of other F/S players like Banfield plus a couple of others

Hopefully, he does slide through and we can prelist him as a Cat A rookie but for the life of me I can’t figure out why we didn’t open up a 6th spot

If we assume we fill the 5 main list spots with our three R1 picks then a combination of 2 of pick 34, Williams, Evans and Banfield

Then of the the 3 open rookie spots after we allow for Robertson to be added, I suspect we use 2 spots for mature aged SSP signings like Macrae etc - at least one, maybe both, to be determined after a train on process

That leaves one spot for Banfield if he gets through or likely pick 1 in the RD if he doesn’t- I’d much prefer Banfield and I don’t understand why we’ve taken that risk when all we had to do was move Cripps to the rookie list

Anyway, I’m preaching to the choir here as I know your thoughts on the matter so I’ll leave it at that

 

[eaglevision]

That leaves one spot for Banfield if he gets through or likely pick 1 in the RD if he doesn’t- I’d much prefer Banfield and I don’t understand why we’ve taken that risk when all we had to do was move Cripps to the rookie list

There was an article last year mentioning that clubs can now match FS in the rookie draft. If correct would be great to use pick 1 then Charlie after. Few kids I’d love to take a punt on that other clubs are likely to have in interest in.

 

[Keys]

Personally I prefer to skip the academy and f/s players. So they have CDT at 2, Cumming at 5 and Sharp at 7. Very interesting and thorough guide thanks for posting.

I would be very surprised if we picked Sharp at 2. Draft night's going to be interesting that's for sure.

It will be telling when training reports start coming in on Monday and we find out which players are training with the midfield group. Maybe we don't need mids as desperately as a lot of posters think.

Usually players don’t start training in line groups until the full squad returns so we won’t see that before the draft