List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Serious question. Next year's draft, is there another mid we're going to be talking about taking as an absolute must pick like Sharp this year? And whoever else before that? And the draft before that?

And now let me ask, how many of those absolute musts from years gone by have gone on to burn us? I mean really, really burn us like missing out on Bontempelli or missing out on Petracca or one of St. Kilda's many other drafting failures?

In closing, at least we're not St. Kilda.

 

[dinnaz]

Everyone has different opinions, what limitations do you see that mean he won’t be taken until a pick in the 30s?

Mostly, because he has somewhat regressed since last year. Was top of the tree coming into this year, and hasn't gone on with it. I don't think he's overly quick which makes a difference for those top end mids. And I don't think he's all that great forward if that doesn't work out.

I get big Chesser/Brander vibes on "underperforming" top age players.

I can see someone jumping earlyish perhaps Adelaide at 16? but I expect he could be a "slider" especially with the shoulder & hope that we look somewhere else.

*2nd rounder without bids 20-40

 

[eaglevision]

Mostly, because he has somewhat regressed since last year. Was top of the tree coming into this year, and hasn't gone on with it. I don't think he's overly quick which makes a difference for those top end mids. And I don't think he's all that great forward if that doesn't work out.

I get big Chesser/Brander vibes on "underperforming" top age players.

I can see someone jumping earlyish perhaps Adelaide at 16? but I expect he could be a "slider" especially with the shoulder & hope that we look somewhere else.

*2nd rounder without bids 20-40

He’s bloody quick, 2.95ish 20m sprint, he’d be the fastest top end mid apart from Grlj and kicked 3 goals in a SANFL league game. Which areas do you think he’s regressed in?

 

[maverick001]

Here he can borrow mine

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Okay okay, no need to boast

 

[maverick001]

eDPS has said CDT measured 201cm. I’d say this is probably the comment we should attach most weight to before we start talking about a 263cm unicorn who is still growing.

Can unicorns play football?

 

[maverick001]

CDT doesn't just have to play Ruck or deep forward. He's a great runner with good ball use and contested ground ball ability

He's also not one of these skinny ruckman type that will take years to develop and build his body

He's thick through the hips and has powerful legs Think he plays year one without any drama.

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Sounds like the AFL equivalent of Magic Johnson

 

[dinnaz]

He’s bloody quick, 2.95ish 20m sprint, he’d be the fastest top end mid apart from Grlj and kicked 3 goals in a SANFL league game. Which areas do you think he’s regressed in?

A 2.95ish 20m is kind of average isn't it? With 2.8-2.9 being classed as fast. Grlj & Cumming seem more like they are good in traffic with a bit of acceleration rather than having breakneck speed.

League form doesn't mean much considering returns over a whole season. Champs was average, and U18s was good but not great. His main POD is overhead marking but that's somewhat redundant playing midfield these days.

Grlj is very outside as a player and not one i'm all that high on as a mid. Probably becomes a back flanker imo.

 

[stallon]

A 2.95ish 20m is kind of average isn't it? With 2.8-2.9 being classed as fast. Grlj & Cumming seem more like they are good in traffic with a bit of acceleration rather than having breakneck speed.

less than 3 seconds is pretty fast, 2.95 is top 10 areas pretty much every year
2022 and 2024 for example:

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Way too much importance is placed on combine results.

 

[donpyke92]

Combine results v Brownlows, a midfielders award
I'd take every Brownlow winner before a combine beast.
Footballers.

 

[The_Reaper]

Serious question. Next year's draft, is there another mid we're going to be talking about taking as an absolute must pick like Sharp this year? And whoever else before that? And the draft before that?

And now let me ask, how many of those absolute musts from years gone by have gone on to burn us? I mean really, really burn us like missing out on Bontempelli or missing out on Petracca or one of St. Kilda's many other drafting failures?

In closing, at least we're not St. Kilda.

And when did we last have a good midfield?

 

[Happy Mastenator]

less than 3 seconds is pretty fast, 2.95 is top 10 areas pretty much every year
2022 and 2024 for example:
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If anything this shows elite speed isn’t an indicator of success at afl level.

 

[BSD]

And Toddy gets a mention!

Does anybody know Toddy's football background. All i know about him is that he was employed by West Coast 2 weeks before the AFL introduced the 20% salary cuts due to covid.

 

[boondy]

Bailey Williams 20m sprint was sub 3.0

 

[boondy]

Serious question. Next year's draft, is there another mid we're going to be talking about taking as an absolute must pick like Sharp this year? And whoever else before that? And the draft before that?

And now let me ask, how many of those absolute musts from years gone by have gone on to burn us? I mean really, really burn us like missing out on Bontempelli or missing out on Petracca or one of St. Kilda's many other drafting failures?

In closing, at least we're not St. Kilda.

Updated: The top 2026 AFL Draft prospects

With season 2025 fast-approaching, we've revisited our list of the top 10 2008-born prospects to keep an eye on.

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[Godfather32]

Does anybody know Toddy's football background. All i know about him is that he was employed by West Coast 2 weeks before the AFL introduced the 20% salary cuts due to covid.

Apparently he's been there 11 years or so now

Most I can find on him (after a 30 second google search that is): Todd Nisbett joined the club as a junior under former head of football Craig Vozzo a decade ago, has risen up through the ranks and is rated highly by player agents.

 

[Obeanie1]

CDT isnt a ruck though.

He isn't a small forward.

Maybe Reid rucks full time.

Also no sub any longer and changes to the ruck rules coming in.

Alot in play generally as well as with our list finding what is the best position for the kids as they develop.

 

[Obeanie1]

Mostly, because he has somewhat regressed since last year. Was top of the tree coming into this year, and hasn't gone on with it. I don't think he's overly quick which makes a difference for those top end mids. And I don't think he's all that great forward if that doesn't work out.

I get big Chesser/Brander vibes on "underperforming" top age players.

I can see someone jumping earlyish perhaps Adelaide at 16? but I expect he could be a "slider" especially with the shoulder & hope that we look somewhere else.

*2nd rounder without bids 20-40

We are talking about Cumming?

If he regressed this year he must have been amazing in 2024.

Played a very good championships, then seniors and then hurt his shoulder so missed some footy late.

Most phantoms and rankings have him top 10.

 

[Godfather32]

As much as I don't really rate him, I think we're going to draft CDT with pick 2 (if we keep it) because the recruiters will have FOMO of him blowing up and ending up one of the best players in the league 5 years down the track.

 

[kranky al]

Can unicorns play football?

Is a unicorns bum called a unicornhole?

 

[Obeanie1]

As much as I don't really rate him, I think we're going to draft CDT with pick 2 (if we keep it) because the recruiters will have FOMO of him blowing up and ending up one of the best players in the league 5 years down the track.

Alot of metrics and other clubs rate him.

CDT feels risky and even though we need a ruck good rucks don't normally go top 2.

Only time can tell who is right with CDT.

 

[Godfather32]

Alot of metrics and other clubs rate him.

CDT feels risky and even though we need a ruck good rucks don't normally go top 2.

Only time can tell who is right with CDT.

I'd feel a lot better about taking the risk on CDT if Duursma wasn't also a risk, if they both turn out to be duds then it will have completely stuffed the rebuild

 

[Barrybran]

As much as I don't really rate him, I think we're going to draft CDT with pick 2 (if we keep it) because the recruiters will have FOMO of him blowing up and ending up one of the best players in the league 5 years down the track.

I don't mind drafting him if we have a good football-related reason in doing so. The problem I see is that the things he is good at, there are others who are better. Drafting him at 1 or 2, you're putting a LOT of stock into him being able to put it all together.

 

[Godfather32]

I don't mind drafting him if we have a good football-related reason in doing so. The problem I see is that the things he is good at, there are others who are better. Drafting him at 1 or 2, you're putting a LOT of stock into him being able to put it all together.

Yeah I agree, I'm not saying I want to draft him at 2, I just think we will

 

[Barrybran]

I'd feel a lot better about taking the risk on CDT if Duursma wasn't also a risk, if they both turn out to be duds then it will have completely stuffed the rebuild

At least with Duursma, he looks like he'll be a very good outside player. We drafted Gaff at 4 and he turned it to be a pretty handy player.