List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[maverick001]

For all the CDT vs Sharp debate I’m predicting we actually take Robey with 2

Because we’ve made noises about needing mids, and outside of this board the public sentiment seems to be Robey>Sharp

 

[uptheWC]

Whole lot of overrating our current midfield stocks on here to justify taking CDT.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Seems like we have locked in Duursma/CDT if you believe the rumours.

 

[EagleEgo]

Eagles complete late trade with Bulldogs

West Coast finalise trade ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

According to most experts, the main draft this year will only go up to around pick 55.
If we really traded pick 13 and 34 for pick 9 (according to rumour), then the system will automatically generate a pick 56 for us.

 

[Goroyals22]

I think he might be linked to another club, so has the potential to be matched if selected before 20. I like him though, looks like he definitely has some x factor. Mature ager as well, so could possibly slot in from r1

Nah I think he is in the open pool so first in best dressed

 

[WCEswift]

For all the CDT vs Sharp debate I’m predicting we actually take Robey with 2

Because we’ve made noises about needing mids, and outside of this board the public sentiment seems to be Robey>Sharp

agreed duursma robey and schubert/dovaston

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

How many A grade mids do you believe a competitor needs?

Given Geelong had 2, Collingwood 1, Hawks 1.

Given that the clear answer is 2, what do you think the likelihood that none of Hewett/Duursma/26F1 becoming elite or Warner not coming is?

"A grade" is a relative measure by I would suggest a winning team needs 3 elite midfielders. AA squad level.

Swans - Warner, Guilden and Heeney.
Lions - McCluggage, Neale, Ashcroft (older) and Dunkley
Freo - Brayshaw, Serong, Young and Bolton
Suns - Anderson, Rowell and Petracca
Pies - Daicos, Daicos, de Gooey, and Pendlebury (Sidebottom was but not any more)
Cats - Smith, Holmes and Dangerfield
Port - Butters, Rossey and JHF (Wines was but not any more)
Dogs - The Bont, Richards and Liberatore.

I think Hawks and Crows not progressing to the GF was because they are missing having enough elite mids. Sometimes you can very happily get by with elite forwards who can run thru the midfield.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Sharp was also played off the HFF in the SANFL this year, he wasn't played as a midfielder. I'd expect him to have a similar start to AFL as Draper, for the simple fact clubs don't like throwing young players to the wolves, so he's unlikely to impact in the midfield in any meaningful way for his first couple of seasons.

Last year I was slobbering over Draper going on the talk. Then I had a good look at his highlights package. Ran around like a flea in steroids ; got lots of received but man he butchered his disposal .
Sharp isn’t your smooth flowing,long kicking athlete.
He runs hard ( not Priddis pace ) and doesn’t waste a disposal.
I don’t care if he has the worst kicking style in history as long as it is effective ; and it is!
Fu*k the football CVS . Stats lie!!!
Wether he goes on to great heights or is just a very handy footballer; time will tell.
Stop talking shit about his kicking etc and look closely at his highlights.LOOK CLOSELY!
He doesn’t waste the ball and you rarely see a hospital pass ala Cummings!

 

[eaglevision]

Eagles complete late trade with Bulldogs

West Coast finalise trade ahead of the 2025 Telstra AFL Draft

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

According to most experts, the main draft this year will only go up to around pick 55.
If we really traded pick 13 and 34 for pick 9 (according to rumour), then the system will automatically generate a pick 55 for us.

There won’t be a pick generated. It’s simply what it is but I don’t think that will be enough for the Blues.

Picks 1,2,13,34,41 go to the draft.

I think we do 13,34,41 for 9 and 54 on draft night and I’m expecting Duursma-CDT 1-2.

9 probably gets us a choice of Dovaston, Schubert and Lindsay who I would take in that order.

54 matches Williams after coming in and Banfield probably goes to Cat A but otherwise will almost certainly be a match free of charge.

Pick 1 in the rookie draft will throw up a number of good options this year.

 

[Goroyals22]

If we're asking for the impossible, I'd like a date with Keira Knightley, please and thank you.

Is that the love actually Keira Knightley or the padme decoy knightley to Natalie Portman?

 

[WCE777]

I like this option , the guy has wheels and tricks.. easily slot in Ryan’s position

I really like this option, but not in the 1st round.
Around our pick 34 would be a good get.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

If we're asking for the impossible, I'd like a date with Keira Knightley, please and thank you.

Best I can do is Darcy Moore

 

[SAweagle]

Best I can do is Darcy Moore

Throw in Dani Laidley and a F2nd and its a deal

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

What is the point of trading for pick 65? Can probably get a better deal on draft night?

 

[TerryFilk]

For all the CDT vs Sharp debate I’m predicting we actually take Robey with 2

Because we’ve made noises about needing mids, and outside of this board the public sentiment seems to be Robey>Sharp

It’d be a surprise, to me reading between the lines our board is

1. Duursma
2. CDT
3. Sharp

We probably do want a bonafide midfielder but can’t justify taking Sharp as high as 2 hence why we are trying to move up for him, if that fails, do we split if we know we can get him + a future first or another player this year? I think that’s what we’ll be weighing up.

Of course behind the scenes could be very different but I haven’t gotten a singular vibe that we have any interest in Robey at 2.

 

[WCE777]

Nah I think he is in the open pool so first in best dressed

If we believe the article WC have done a heap of work on Pickett and really like him.
Basically it's where we rate him and if he lasts to pick 34 for us.
WC trading out the pick 53 and not much else happened is telling me we are confident Banfield & Evans will get past the ND and most likely rookie candidates.
We have 34 & 41 so we can match a bid if Williams bid comes before 37, with next pick at worst needed to match others but it seems unlikely.
This is leaving a scenario where if we are VERY keen on Pickett and Wiliams we may need to trade a pick back in if Pickett is rated so highly, seems to be 25-35 where he is rated.

 

[shooshka]

I'll make a wager with you.

By the end of 2026, there wont be 5 better midfielders from the 2024 draft class better than Sharp, who ever he plays for. And im not talking about the finn o'sullivans who get 30 by playing on the half back flank, or Lindsay on the wing, or murphy reid as a forward. Genuine coalface midfielder.


Rising star award - 10 or few games.
2024 eligible players -- Smith, Draper, Smillee, Allen, Hotton
Its between Sharp and smith.

Bookmark it

Rising Star throws up some good and bad winners… it’s not really the most important measure of a 1st year player (I get it is the most important rating criteria of that year in isolation, but doesn’t account for growth, potential, injury etc).

Also - Shanahan on 9 games

 

[WCE777]

"A grade" is a relative measure by I would suggest a winning team needs 3 elite midfielders. AA squad level.

Swans - Warner, Guilden and Heeney.
Lions - McCluggage, Neale, Ashcroft (older) and Dunkley
Freo - Brayshaw, Serong, Young and Bolton
Suns - Anderson, Rowell and Petracca
Pies - Daicos, Daicos, de Gooey, and Pendlebury (Sidebottom was but not any more)
Cats - Smith, Holmes and Dangerfield
Port - Butters, Rossey and JHF (Wines was but not any more)
Dogs - The Bont, Richards and Liberatore.

I think Hawks and Crows not progressing to the GF was because they are missing having enough elite mids. Sometimes you can very happily get by with elite forwards who can run thru the midfield.

So the answer is minimum 3 & desirably 4 A grade mids.
This comes from drafting 6+ and 3-4 being good and the others end up playing roles or outside, HF, HB.
Brisbane being the benchmark has drafted 7 x 1st round midfielders between 2016 & 2022 and ended up with 4 A grade mids.
Not all make A grade mids at AFL level, Rayner and Dev are 2 examples and there are heaps more.
You need a list of balanced traits and types to have long term success.

 

[stallon]

It would be nice to have more than one though

And we will have it, we dont need Sharp this year to reach this lofty goal

 

[stallon]

Just can't agree with "Our midfield will be fine without Sharp or someone added".

Hanging your hopes on Dev, Gross, Hall and Allen is just ludicrous.
Hewitt could be one and it's too early to tell with the others.

We need quality and we need it now.

3 A grade mids is all a team competing for grand finals needs.

Not 5+ like some want lmao

Need role players, which is where those names you mentioned come in

 

[CountryLad]

People are seeing the massive midfield void and are wanting to put square pegs in round holes to fill it when it comes to our draft selections.

Just take best available.

Trade for need and draft for the future. Take the best available and the club is the only one that has all the information on these draftees. Whether it’s CDT, Sharp, Cumming, Taylor or a pick split, the club is in a powerful position to make the right choice. Trust in Massey is all we can do.

 

[Keys]

What is the point of trading for pick 65? Can probably get a better deal on draft night?

On draft night we wouldn’t have pick 53 to trade because it would have been erased had we not traded it out

5 list spots = 5 picks

Our 5th pick is currently 41 so we lose everything after that

If we believe the article WC have done a heap of work on Pickett and really like him.
Basically it's where we rate him and if he lasts to pick 34 for us.
WC trading out the pick 53 and not much else happened is telling me we are confident Banfield & Evans will get past the ND and most likely rookie candidates.
We have 34 & 41 so we can match a bid if Williams bid comes before 37, with next pick at worst needed to match others but it seems unlikely.
This is leaving a scenario where if we are VERY keen on Pickett and Wiliams we may need to trade a pick back in if Pickett is rated so highly, seems to be 25-35 where he is rated.

Trading out pick 53 has no bearing on our confidence or otherwise of Banfield and/or Evans attracting a bid. It’s nothing other than getting some value, albeit nothing better than a late F4 pick, for something we we about to lose for nothing

The fact we didn’t create a 6th list spot is, however, an indication that we are either confident of no bid being made or unconcerned if one is. If the club wanted to be absolutely certain they could add Evans and Banfield, Cripps would be going to the rookie list

As for Pickett, if our interest is real at pick 13, then that’s an indication we aren’t likely to match a bid for Williams. Feels early for him although ideally we’ve traded that pick up to 9 for someone better

 

[Underdog]

"A grade" is a relative measure by I would suggest a winning team needs 3 elite midfielders. AA squad level.

Swans - Warner, Guilden and Heeney.
Lions - McCluggage, Neale, Ashcroft (older) and Dunkley
Freo - Brayshaw, Serong, Young and Bolton
Suns - Anderson, Rowell and Petracca
Pies - Daicos, Daicos, de Gooey, and Pendlebury (Sidebottom was but not any more)
Cats - Smith, Holmes and Dangerfield
Port - Butters, Rossey and JHF (Wines was but not any more)
Dogs - The Bont, Richards and Liberatore.

I think Hawks and Crows not progressing to the GF was because they are missing having enough elite mids. Sometimes you can very happily get by with elite forwards who can run thru the midfield.

Some of those guys you've named are primarily wingers or flankers (who may swing through the middle).

Using the same criteria, why wouldn't we consider Reid, Hewett and Duursma as very resonable candidates to sit in that category in the future? That's without considering all of the other developing players (we're expected to also select Banfield and Evans in this draft alone).

Regardless of the CDT vs Sharp discussion, following this draft, we are going to have way more midfield prospects than we are going to be able to provide opportunities to. But we need to give them time to develop.

 

[Tugga27]

3 A grade mids is all a team competing for grand finals needs.

Not 5+ like some want lmao

Need role players, which is where those names you mentioned come in

I'm not asking for 5.

We've only got one.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Using the same criteria, why wouldn't we consider Reid, Hewett and Duursma as very resonable candidates to sit in that category in the future? That's without considering all of the other developing players (we're expected to also select Banfield and Evans in this draft alone).

The question was how many elite midfielders does a team need. It was proven not possible.

I excluded Levi Ashcroft as he is possibly going to be elite but not close. Harley is looking like he will be but he’s not there yet.