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List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide


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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

 
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On draft night we wouldn’t have pick 53 to trade because it would have been erased had we not traded it out

5 list spots = 5 picks

Our 5th pick is currently 41 so we lose everything after that



Trading out pick 53 has no bearing on our confidence or otherwise of Banfield and/or Evans attracting a bid. It’s nothing other than getting some value, albeit nothing better than a late F4 pick, for something we we about to lose for nothing

The fact we didn’t create a 6th list spot is, however, an indication that we are either confident of no bid being made or unconcerned if one is. If the club wanted to be absolutely certain they could add Evans and Banfield, Cripps would be going to the rookie list

As for Pickett, if our interest is real at pick 13, then that’s an indication we aren’t likely to match a bid for Williams. Feels early for him although ideally we’ve traded that pick up to 9 for someone better
2 things can be true.
No takers for any late picks until WB took pick 53, which makes sense as at least we got somthing for it and 2026 is the place to have more picks for NGA/FS etc.

WC have openly expressed their desire for 3 top 10 picks if possible.
Basically having 34, 41, 58 left after that means we are VERY keen to move 13 as high as we can using some other picks or take an offer from ESS for pick 2 that includes 5 & 6.
Leaving us 1, 5, 6, 34, 41, 58.
If not we may look at 13 & 34 or 41 if we want pick 9 from CAR for a target we want if we take 1 & 2 to the draft.
Also would expect that 1 of those picks could be moved into 2026 on draft night f it falls that way.

As for Pickett, 13 is very early and wouldn't have thought we would jump there, rated around 25-30 so anywhere around there if we were keen we could do if he slips to pick 34 and take Williams anytime after that if a bid comes around there.
Too many ways or means to get both if they think they are the best, not that we want to use 2026 picks but we have the STK pick if we really want them both.

This close to the draft I think almost all scenarios have been worked out for the most part.
ESS offering 5 & 15 supposedly as their fist offer and WC responding with if that your offer we want more or give us your 2026 1st round pick.
 

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Hmm I sense a divide between us…

Some want a 187cm midfielder ranked at pick 5 in the open draft.

Some want a 200cm forward ranked at pick 2.

I come to you with a solution, a middle ground if you will.

What if there was a midfielder who also played forward… whose height at 192cm and ranking at pick 3 falls in the middle of the two players being debated. Not an athletic beast like CDT, but not a plodder like Sharp. Somewhere in between. The perfect balance.

His name is Sullivan Robey

The JTR movement landed us our lord and savior Harley Reid. It now returns in a time of great need…

Just Take Robey 🙏🏽
If we wanted a midfielder not named Sharp, we'd have to look at Cumming
 
Yep. Plus we have Pick absorption problems so late picks will be needed.
I think we can easily find 6-7 players to delist/move on.
We have at least 4 NGA/FS players looking like AFL quality.
We also need an elte mid with our 1st pick and a KPD prospect as big priorities so that's 6 without trading in anyone.
 
NWM, Daicos, etc are not coal face scrappers either?? McCarthy brings something pretty damn similar to those guys

Not an ability issue, its an endurance/consistency issue. He can do it

Did you not see him in the second half of this season?? Lmao jfc dude Reid was incredible, and hes been doing full time mid basically the entire time hes been in the AFL

Imagine him with a full preseason, he would be genuinely in best player in the comp talks

What evidence is there to suggest McCarthy can play full time midfield? Why would you take him away from the defence that has no elite kicks in it? Robbing pedro to pay pablo

Agreed Hewett has the ability, i personally think he will make it as a full time midfielder but it will be slow burn as he builds a tank. Injury history also a concern. Hewett also tends to drift in and out out games. 2/3 years away from being a reliable A grade mid.

Reid had a outstanding end to the season as he gained fitness, he still needs chop outs going forward and honestly i like him playing a 70/30 or even 65/35 split. So dangerous.
 
It’s been used as a reason against taking Sharp based on the idea that either Duursma or Hewett will surely be an A grade mid
Likely and surely are different things.

Regardless what you’ve just said is far different to just Hewett being “almost a sure thing to be an A grade mid”.

Let’s say Hewetts a 30% chance of being an A grade mid (an underestimation imo).

Duursma’s a 50% chance to be an A grade mid.

Warners a 60% chance to come to the eagles.

2026F1 a 20% chance to be an A grade mid.

McCarthy, Gross, Allan, whoever else combined a 10% chance that one of them become an A grade mid (again underestimation imo).

I like the odds of getting at least one from that lot tbh, surprised you don’t and wouldn’t mind you assessments of the likelihood of the above events.
 
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It’s been used as a reason against taking Sharp based on the idea that either Duursma or Hewett will surely be an A grade mid
Nobody is a certainty for anything. But they are likely prospects to and have a high ceiling. We haven't even touched on Bo Allan who would have been drafted with a view to developing into a high quality midfielder. He's a really forgotten player.

 
I think we can easily find 6-7 players to delist/move on.
We have at least 4 NGA/FS players looking like AFL quality.
We also need an elte mid with our 1st pick and a KPD prospect as big priorities so that's 6 without trading in anyone.
Would love to have a crack at Blake Thredgold this year for our KPD. Think he could be a gun...
 

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Brisbane had Starcevich,Wilmot,Zorko and Fletcher steaming out of defence. Keeping that in mind why would we contemplate taking Macarthy out of H/B?
His decision making and execution is superb and with a full preseason under his belt will surely only get better!
 
Brisbane had Starcevich,Wilmot,Zorko and Fletcher steaming out of defence. Keeping that in mind why would we contemplate taking Macarthy out of H/B?
His decision making and execution is superb and with a full preseason under his belt will surely only get better!
We're already exploring it.

The last 3 games of the season, he was in nearly half the centre bounces.

It's going to be a balancing act and he's unlikely to be a prime midfield mover.

I think people have a misconception of AFL midfields. Most team will have 2 or 3 prime movers that spend most of their time in there and the rest is spread amongst a larger group of players that would share duties of around 30-60% each (averaged out).
 
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Likely and surely are different things.

Regardless what you’ve just said is far different to just Hewett being “almost a sure thing to be an A grade mid”.

Let’s say Hewetts a 30% chance of being an A grade mid (an underestimation imo).

Duursma’s a 50% chance to be an A grade mid.

Warners a 60% chance to come to the eagles.

2026F1 a 20% chance to be an A grade mid.

McCarthy, Gross, Allan, whoever else combined a 10% chance that one of them become an A grade mid (again underestimation imo).

I like the odds of getting at least one from that lot tbh, surprised you don’t and wouldn’t mind you assessments of the likelihood of the above events.
I think Duursma is an 80% chance to be an A grade player but only 25% or so to be an A grade mid. Hewett probably a 50% chance of being an A grade half forward/mid, but you need more than an A grade mid and an A grade half forward/mid.

Warner a good chance to come to the eagles, but he’s a different age bracket to the others.

Let’s say Hewett becomes an A grade mid, he and Harley are both very offensively oriented and neither are really that contested or balanced transition mid. Duursma the most likely to be that transition mid, but again, we should be giving ourselves the best chance of building an elite midfield, and taking Sharp would greatly add to that.
 
"A grade" is a relative measure by I would suggest a winning team needs 3 elite midfielders. AA squad level.

Swans - Warner, Guilden and Heeney.
Lions - McCluggage, Neale, Ashcroft (older) and Dunkley
Freo - Brayshaw, Serong, Young and Bolton
Suns - Anderson, Rowell and Petracca
Pies - Daicos, Daicos, de Gooey, and Pendlebury (Sidebottom was but not any more)
Cats - Smith, Holmes and Dangerfield
Port - Butters, Rossey and JHF (Wines was but not any more)
Dogs - The Bont, Richards and Liberatore.

I think Hawks and Crows not progressing to the GF was because they are missing having enough elite mids. Sometimes you can very happily get by with elite forwards who can run thru the midfield.
1 Bolton, de goey are not midfielders. Danger is no more.

2. Port are not a top tier team.

Sorry to say but a team of Holmes and basically smith made a grand final. Dangerfield at 36 isn’t same player, his output needs to be knocked down.

If you have 2 a graders, good support, you are set. You can see in that list that teams have better a graders but can’t make it work. Ie dogs.

Interesting that you missed Adelaide. Basically one a grader mid. One part time a grader mid.
 

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There's way too many posts to do replies galore.

From my point of view we need a balanced midfield draft list... I was initially against sharp at pick 2. But I've come around.. he'll compliment duursma or Patterson (if we do the right thing and bid gc boys at 1) very well.
I doubt that sharp will get past Richmond's picks... It's between sharp and Robey and we have a couple of Robey types on the list already... So minimise the risk... Keep pick 2 and get Sharp
 
All this talk about the midfield and not one mention of Hutch's game against Geelong last year that locked in

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I think Duursma is an 80% chance to be an A grade player but only 25% or so to be an A grade mid. Hewett probably a 50% chance of being an A grade half forward/mid, but you need more than an A grade mid and an A grade half forward/mid.
ROFL. Would love to know how you came up with these figures. I’m guessing from somewhere the sun don’t usually shine.
 
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