Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

Spoiler: eDPS 2020 Phantom Draft

Spoiler: Lore's 2020 Draft Order

Any issues with the below please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-future-pick-tracker.1229399/unread/

Spoiler: Draft Central Draft Guide

 

[andleanback]

Not enough saving in rookie cuts.

Not against trimming the fat though, too many afl players coast through their first couple years, where now they will have to take the opportunity right from the start. Or they’ll find themselves off a list pretty quickly.

 

[ant555]

Not against trimming the fat though, too many afl players coast through their first couple years, where now they will have to take the opportunity right from the start. Or they’ll find themselves off a list pretty quickly.

Personally I would have 40/5/2 but that would involve cutting the top end. We are not the NFL or NBA. We do not have clubs worth billions of dollars. At any given time we have 5 or 6 insolvent clubs. Players salary's should be capped and then a level of outside sponsor deals allowed per club but not organized through clubs.

 

[andleanback]

Personally I would have 40/5/2 but that would involve cutting the top end. We are not the NFL or NBA. We do not have clubs worth billions of dollars. At any given time we have 5 or 6 insolvent clubs. Players salary's should be capped and then a level of outside sponsor deals allowed per club but not organized through clubs.

Don’t need that many many on a list. Too many list cloggers get 4-6 years and do nothing.

 

[11kgm]

Don’t need that many many on a list. Too many list cloggers get 4-6 years and do nothing.

Remember Long haha

 

[Old Campaigner]

Not against trimming the fat though, too many afl players coast through their first couple years, where now they will have to take the opportunity right from the start. Or they’ll find themselves off a list pretty quickly.

Plenty of teams use 35+ players in a season, cutting it back like that will really test the depth some sides if they have a bad year with injury.

Is this going to be a permanent change or just for a couple of years until things get back to normal?

 

[ant555]

Don’t need that many many on a list. Too many list cloggers get 4-6 years and do nothing.

That has more to do with having a shit list manager more than anything else. Reason why I went those numbers is we need to get away from putting players like Townsend on rookie lists and return them to what they where supposed to be. Spots for players who are under 23 and not been in an AFL system.

 

[andleanback]

Plenty of teams use 35+ players in a season, cutting it back like that will really test the depth some sides if they have a bad year with injury.

Is this going to be a permanent change or just for a couple of years until things get back to normal?

Would like to see in regular season what’s the average number of players used. I think you can get away with 42 on a list, but I would’ve gone 38 senior list rather than 36.

 

[ant555]

Would like to see in regular season what’s the average number of players used. I think you can get away with 42 on a list, but I would’ve gone 38 senior list rather than 36.

It is not the average that you need to look at . There will always be 2 or 3 sides well below the average which brings very ordinary results.

 

[andleanback]

That has more to do with having a sh*t list manager more than anything else. Reason why I went those numbers is we need to get away from putting players like Townsend on rookie lists and return them to what they where supposed to be. Spots for players who are under 23 and not been in an AFL system.

Yeah definitely I agree with you there. But the reason those players last longer is because there are more spots to keep them as clubs hope they come good. Case in point laverde. Every club has a few players on their list that get a couple years too long, when really they are never going to make it.

 

[ant555]

Yeah definitely I agree with you there. But the reason those players last longer is because there are more spots to keep them as clubs hope they come good. Case in point laverde. Every club has a few players on their list that get a couple years too long, when really they are never going to make it.

So you cut list sides to avoid your crap list manager clogging your list ?

 

[andleanback]

It is not the average that you need to look at . There will always be 2 or 3 sides well below the average which brings very ordinary results.

I meant case by case go through each club and see how many they use year on year. Be interesting to see how many get used.

 

[ant555]

I meant case by case go through each club and see how many they use year on year. Be interesting to see how many get used.

Well we used 30 plus.
The premiers generally use under 28.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Watched the WWT and North Adelaide game from a couple of weeks ago. Lachie Jones and Rhyan Mansell had an enormous defensive impact with hard hits and defensive efforts. No surprise that WWT are averaging less than 50 points against this season.

Jones is Port Adelaide academy but I would love the combination at Essendon to give a real defensive edge to our back half.

 

[Vander18]

Going off the latest eDPS updated list if we ended up with pick 6 - 7 and 15-18 (if Daniher goes and Saad to the Tigers)
Then
Thilthorpe
Phillips
Carroll / Trew depending on the final number would be nice.

You’re on the Phillips train? Saw some video - can see he’s more powerful and aggressive than others in our midget squad.

Faark he’d wanna work out -if Dodo brings in another short ass mid and he either doesn’t make it or is no more physical than the ones we have....

 

[andleanback]

So you cut list sides to avoid your crap list manager clogging your list ?

No you’re are misconstruing my point. I’d prefer for lists to be untouched, but at the same time I believe too many players stay on a list for too long, when the opportunities should be given to kids coming through. Maybe cutting lists for a few years will force clubs to be more ruthless with players that don’t offer much. And I agree with you rookie list shouldn’t be for previous listed players.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

You’re on the Phillips train? Saw some video - can see he’s more powerful and aggressive than others in our midget squad.

Faark he’d wanna work out -if Dodo brings in another short ass mid and he either doesn’t make it or is no more physical than the ones we have....

If Phillips has a big debut season, we should trade Darcy.

5 starting midfielders under 6ft is too much.

 

[ant555]

You’re on the Phillips train? Saw some video - can see he’s more powerful and aggressive than others in our midget squad.

Faark he’d wanna work out -if Dodo brings in another short ass mid and he either doesn’t make it or is no more physical than the ones we have....

I am as long as we draft another taller midfielder at a later pick.

 

[Old Campaigner]

I meant case by case go through each club and see how many they use year on year. Be interesting to see how many get used.

We used 38 players this year. That number could potentially have been even higher if we had a normal length season.

 

[foj1]

I reckon the bombers will really push for a good player for Daniher.
either my threatening to match Daniher salary or flipping a pick for a player.
a cam rayner or jaidyn Stephenson type would add a bit of excitement to our list.

 

[Lore]

We used 38 players this year. That number could potentially have been even higher if we had a normal length season.

I think there was more rotation with condensed fixtures so it might not be that different to having more games. We also had players miss 8 games with a 6 week injury because of it.

 

[faible]

That has more to do with having a sh*t list manager more than anything else. Reason why I went those numbers is we need to get away from putting players like Townsend on rookie lists and return them to what they where supposed to be. Spots for players who are under 23 and not been in an AFL system.

I do think there’s a place for a previously listed rookie list type thing, where it’s a 1 year contract with a limit to how many years they can be on it, at a reduced base salary.

Exactly for guys like Townsend.

The rookie list now is kind of a dual purpose untried and raw projects / experienced delisted depth.

 

[Vander18]

I am as long as we draft another taller midfielder at a later pick.

Is Holland’s a chance to get to us?

 

[citizen-erased]

I am as long as we draft another taller midfielder at a later pick.

if we have 6 & 7 i like Phillips & Trew. If we have a mid teens pick and O'Driscoll is there, grab him too.
forward line is what it is. Hooker may be around for another year. Jones/Bryan/Crauford potential options. Wright is out there as an option.
Build the midfield. the depth drops off too quickly.

Draper Shiel Merrett McGrath Parish Langford Phillips Trew O'Driscoll.
Future drafts can then be strategic with best available needs can be the focus.

 

[Seb78]

Is Holland’s a chance to get to us?

No chance imo. Might to slip to 3 at best. Sydney’s pick had we have traded Daniher wouldn't be too bad right now

 

[foj1]

No chance imo. Might to slip to 3 at best. Sydney’s pick had we have traded Daniher wouldn't be too bad right now

Yep!
dodoro cannot talk his way out of that one.