Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

[eDPS]

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Any issues with the below please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2020-future-pick-tracker.1229399/unread/

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[Lore]

How do the deficit rules impact us?

Say Brand gets bid on in round 2, we don’t have a round 2 pick this year or next, is my understanding correct that the deficit is then placed upon our next natural selection, which is likely to be our 3rd rounder next year? Is that right?

Eyre likewise, does that then get taken out of our other round 3 pick next year from port? If not then we don’t have a round 4 pick next year, where do the points come from?

As far as I understand that seems likely. But we have very few precedents and no transparency, its not in the rules.

 

[DERO]

eDPS Who do you liked for us at 6,7 and 8?

 

[eDPS]

eDPS Who do you liked for us at 6,7 and 8?

A tall
A tall inside mid
Best available

Plenty could fit that bill but hearing what Dodoro said it looks like we will go best available with all our picks if we can’t manage to trade up for Logan McDonald

 

[DERO]

A tall
A tall inside mid
Best available

Plenty could fit that bill but hearing what Dodoro said it looks like we will go best available with all our picks if we can’t manage to trade up for Logan McDonald

Carn man

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Bid on Jones and McInnes. Make Collingwood and Port suffer.

 

[eDPS]

Carn man

Surely you saw the rolling mock I posted that had who I would take with those 3 picks but nah it’s very close in that range and I don’t have a concrete hope with those picks at this stage

 

[DERO]

Surely you saw the rolling mock I posted that had who I would take with those 3 picks but nah it’s very close in that range and I don’t have a concrete hope with those picks at this stage

is that the one pinned to this page or is it somewhere else? I'm keen to check it out.

Edit : found it .

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Back in 2018 when he was first promoted to GM - List & Recruiting his department consisted of:

Mervyn Keane - Senior Recruiting Manager
Rob Forster-Knight - Recruiting & Analytics Manager
Georgia Harvey - Recruiting and List Administrator
Glenn Knight - Recruiting Analyst

Staff Listing - essendonfc.com.au

web.archive.org

Merv left shortly after the last time it was updated though and idk what their job titles are now or who is in there really.

Educated guess would be Dodoro doing list managing (as in, re-signing/delisting current players) and also recruiting obviously in terms of negotiating trades and stuff.

Pro-scouting is a part-time gig that Mark Harvey is now doing, idk if he's the only one in that role or if there's multiple but that's looking at players from other AFL clubs.

Rob Forster-Knight is apparently quite involved in the draft stuff.

Georgia Harvey is still admin.

Beyond that there are things like touching base with all the player managers three times a year in addition to negotiating contracts, building up relationships with draft prospects, touching base with industry contacts that might coach U18s or know a kid and recommend them to you, plus any paid scouts that you'd be overseeing as well. And then salary cap, list numbers, and whatever they do to get Irish kids involved with the club. No idea who does what out of that stuff, although there are some logical alignments.


From what SOS and Rendell were saying on TR this week – and I've heard it before about Essendon too but it was good to know it's not unusual – the list manager makes most of the decisions as that's what you employ them for, but any big contracts get approvals all the way from the top, so board level ratification. He was talking in the context of Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

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32

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196cm

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94kg

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12.5

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9.0

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3.4

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M

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1.6

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G

2.6

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D

10.0

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7.1

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2.9

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4.6

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2.0

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1.9

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8.2

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5.0

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3.2

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M

4.6

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2.4

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G

2.0

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potentially ending up in the draft and saying how a contract that big would have to be signed off at board level and there's always these risk-averse types on the board that would want to know that you've done a medical on them and interviewed them and stuff, check how it fits with TPP etc. They wouldn't sign off if you haven't done that.

So I think the bottom line is basically Dodoro making decisions with the advice and a large amount of input/research done by others including coaches and staff (and typically you take the advice of those you pay to give it right?). Things like bringing in Shiel on big $$, keeping Daniher on big $$ and without a replacement, and re-signing the players in 2016 on big $$ would have been a whole of club situation.

RFK is "National Recruiting Manager" now - essentially Keane's old role.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

If not then we don’t have a round 4 pick next year, where do the points come from?

I think they're carried through to the following year.

 

[Lore]

How do the deficit rules impact us?

Say Brand gets bid on in round 2, we don’t have a round 2 pick this year or next, is my understanding correct that the deficit is then placed upon our next natural selection, which is likely to be our 3rd rounder next year? Is that right?

Eyre likewise, does that then get taken out of our other round 3 pick next year from port? If not then we don’t have a round 4 pick next year, where do the points come from?

I know I already replied to this but I remembered something else After about pick 56 you don’t need points to match, you just use your next pick and there’s no carry over points.

 

[Vindicater]

Would be happy to walk away with O'Driscoll, Perkins and Bruhn if McDonald is gone.

Two solid midfielders and a dynamic forward/midfielder.

I would love to grab a big but i think the good ones will be gone before our pick and the next range are below pick 8.

Maybe grab O'Driscoll and Bruhn and slide 8 for later picks from GWS?

 

[Steve94]

I think we trade back with pick 8 and get a pick in the mid teens.

Then I think we really need to go one of Cox/Reid and one of Perkins/O'Driscoll. I'd go probably Cox and Perkins just because I think that means that we can maybe still get O'Driscoll or Reid with pick say 16. If not there's still someone like Baldwin most likely still available who fits our KPF need

 

[Yoda_]

Phillips or Laverde should go well before either Ham or Crauford.

Ham is useless mate. Why can’t people admit to this?

Only on bigfooty is it better to be young than good


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[The Prosecutor]

Ham is useless mate. Why can’t people admit to this?

Only on bigfooty is it better to be young than good


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Ham is alright, he just doesn't have the physical development scope to be really comfortable of making it.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Picks 7 & 8 for 2 and Future 2nd from North?

 

[eth-dog]

Ham is useless mate. Why can’t people admit to this?

Only on bigfooty is it better to be young than good


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Well neither of the others are good either, Ham has shown a bit

 

[Yoda_]

Well neither of the others are good either, Ham has shown a bit

if you throw enough darts you're bound to hit (play a good game).

 

[Duckworth]

How do the deficit rules impact us?

Say Brand gets bid on in round 2, we don’t have a round 2 pick this year or next, is my understanding correct that the deficit is then placed upon our next natural selection, which is likely to be our 3rd rounder next year? Is that right?

Eyre likewise, does that then get taken out of our other round 3 pick next year from port? If not then we don’t have a round 4 pick next year, where do the points come from?

I think it takes points out of our round 3s and so on. If we run out of points, it comes off of our future round 2 selection.

 

[The Airing of Grievances]

Any possibility of 6+7 for 2 and norfs next year second, 8 and next years 3rd for 16 and collingwoods next year first?
Take McDonald, O'Driscoll good mates and both fill a need for us. Brand and eyre as academy.

The wider concensus across BF seems to be that the first 7 players to be taken are the standouts and the rest is something of a crapshoot. Given that Mcdonald is particularly attractive to North with Brown's departure, I'm not at all sure they would be keen on swapping pick 2 to us for 7 and 8, let alone giving us a future 2nd on top. If they were it would be a great outcome for us but just don't see it happening.

 

[Doug Tassell]

I would like Brand, Eyre and Will Phillips.

 

[11kgm]

I would like Brand, Eyre and Will Phillips.

No more short people

 

[eDPS]

This is me if we ever traded our future first rounder

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Watching the NT game from September, little Alywn Jr looks a prospect. Really well built for his age. Only looks 12 months off it not 2 years.

Little Nathaniel Cooper has all kinds of Caleb Daniel

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29

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171cm

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72kg

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21.3

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11.5

4star

HB

9.8

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M

3.5

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T

2.9

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CL

1.4

4star

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19.5

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11.1

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8.4

4star

M

3.6

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2.0

3star

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1.0

3star

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16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

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9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

energy too.

 

[Vindicater]

Bruhn and Perkins while mid sized are just such good players that I hope we take them.

 

[Seb78]

Any chance Hollands falls to 6?
I know chances are very slim that he will, but would be awsome if he did.
We would need either Adelaide or Norf to bid on Brayden Campbell to be a chance I'm guessing, which most likely won't happen.

1. R Thilthorpe (Adel)
2. J Ugle-Hagen (WB) NM bid
3. L McDonald (NM)
4. B Campbell (Syd)
5. D Grainger-Barrass (Haw)
6. Will Phillips (GC)
7. E Hollands (Ess)
8. A Perkins (Ess)
9. Z Reid (Ess)
10. Lachie Jones (PA) Adelaide bid

Would be amazing if it fell this way