Recruiting Draft Watch 2020

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[eth-dog]

If the top 3 all go talls and hawks like Perkins more there is some chance. Although I’d be silly for that hawks to pass on hollands.

The only reason I see North not taking Hollands is if he goes pick 1.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

In relation to taking too many talls in this draft I think given the fact talls take so long develop we're best giving ourselves a few chances to develop these KPP players now and look at building around them in future drafts with young mids and role players. Cox also isn't really bound by playing a KPP role too, he can just as easily be a link up wingman given his endurance and speed.

Talls taking long to develop to AFL standard is a overstated IMO. Most good talls perform to a decent standard early. Franklin, Riewoldtx2, Lynch, Kings, Daniher, Lloyd... etc.

There is inherent risk in drafting talls you wouldn’t feel comfortable playing in their first year and it should be avoided. We are in no position to be playing waiting games for two years.

 

[11kgm]

think Thilthorpe is the likely chance there, unless someone trades into 5 to get him (Ade/Coll)

It would be interesting who do you take Thilthorpe or Cox.

I would be asking Adelaide if they want Thilthorpe at 6 and we take 9 and one of their latter pics 22, 23, 40, 56, 66

So 6 for 9 and 40

 

[eth-dog]

It would be interesting who do you take Thilthorpe or Cox.

I would be asking Adelaide if they want Thilthorpe at 6 and we take 9 and one of their latter pics 22, 23, 40, 56, 66

So 6 for 9 and 40

You take Thilthorpe every time. The only decision you question is what jumper number he wears.

 

[citizen-erased]

It would be interesting who do you take Thilthorpe or Cox.

I would be asking Adelaide if they want Thilthorpe at 6 and we take 9 and one of their latter pics 22, 23, 40, 56, 66

So 6 for 9 and 40

i would want more if we're passing up on Thilthorpe.
Thilthorpe, Reid, Cox would safely build our spine for the next decade.

 

[citizen-erased]

You take Thilthorpe every time. The only decision you question is what jumper number he wears.

he picks?

 

[Steve94]

Talls taking long to develop is a falsehood IMO. Most good talls perform to a decent standard early, they just take longer to reach their physical peaks.

There is inherent risk in drafting talls you wouldn’t feel comfortable playing in their first year and it should be avoided.

The talls you wouldn't feel comfortable playing early are Eyre and Brand though. They can play early and be good but they're not going to tear games apart as a KPP until a few years. I'd prefer a situation where out good KPP are older than our good midfielders when we're competing rather than the other way round

 

[andleanback]

The only reason I see North not taking Hollands is if he goes pick 1.

Hollands could go anywhere 1-6, probably the only team that isnt taking him is sydney. I still think north go tall because theyll be able to get a good mid with melbournes pick.

 

[Steve94]

Hollands could go anywhere 1-6, probably the only team that isnt taking him is sydney. I still think north go tall because theyll be able to get a good mid with melbournes pick.

I'd guess that North go Mcdonald unless Adelaide take him in which case they'll take Hollands. If Hollands lasts past those two I'd expect Hawks will take him.

 

[Steve94]

What are everyone's general thoughts around trading back with Collingwood? Personally it would be my preference but is pick 8 enough for 16 and a future first or what does everyone expect we'd have to give up for those two picks?

 

[eth-dog]

Hollands could go anywhere 1-6, probably the only team that isnt taking him is sydney. I still think north go tall because theyll be able to get a good mid with melbournes pick.

See I think it's the other way. Their key forward stocks are pretty good as it stands anyway with Larkey looking very good and if not for injury Comben probably would have been rated much higher last year. They'll put a bid in for Ugle-Hagan but they can get Hollands at 3 and then take someone like Chapman or Cox or Reid with their second pick.

 

[Dons4Life]

What are everyone's general thoughts around trading back with Collingwood? Personally it would be my preference but is pick 8 enough for 16 and a future first or what does everyone expect we'd have to give up for those two picks?

It is definitely my number 1 preference for a trade. I think it would need to include either 44 for a McInnes bid or a future 3rd for them to bank more points for Daicos. I would be happy with either of those 2 if it means we get an extra 1st next year and dropping back 8 or so spots with our final pick this year.

 

[Steve94]

It is definitely my number 1 preference for a trade. I think it would need to include either 44 for a McInnes bid or a future 3rd for them to bank more points for Daicos. I would be happy with either of those 2 if it means we get an extra 1st next year and dropping back 8 or so spots with our final pick this year.

It's defintely my preference too. If we take Perkins and Cox/Reid our next pick is a bit of a toss up, I'd prefer to trade back and hopefully get O'Driscoll (who we'd probably look at with pick 8 regardless) then we look at it as basically trading a late pick for a future first.

 

[andleanback]

See I think it's the other way. Their key forward stocks are pretty good as it stands anyway with Larkey looking very good and if not for injury Comben probably would have been rated much higher last year. They'll put a bid in for Ugle-Hagan but they can get Hollands at 3 and then take someone like Chapman or Cox or Reid with their second pick.

Yeah i dont mind Comben but he's very raw can could easily be a bust as he is a star. Cox and Reid will most likely be gone though, we'll take 1 of them and collingwood want one of them badly aswell. I like how the order is so up in the air though, actually will make the top 5 of the draft night interesting, its usually pretty boring.

 

[11kgm]

i would want more if we're passing up on Thilthorpe.
Thilthorpe, Reid, Cox would safely build our spine for the next decade.

Maybe future first for 6

Surely Adelaide are bottom 5 again

 

[Keystone agony]

All three early (likely) available academy kids would fill a void for us. Campbell across half back/wing, McInness as a big bodied mid and L.Jone as another running defender. No hesitation on any of these three joining us.

Im a bit iffy on a guy like Mcinness that early. I mean i havnt seen him play but guys who are as poor aerobically as him barely make it in AFL.

Also the sprint which also counts for Josh Eyre was severely affected by a tail wind. Hes not that quick

Im all for the bids to bring our 44 in before a Brand bid hopefully just dont want to reach on a guy whos recommended around 20 and where bidding at 8 if were not happy for the guy to be on the list. But you are

In the list management i trust. They do better than all of us and ao they should

 

[Red Black and Blue]

The talls you wouldn't feel comfortable playing early are Eyre and Brand though. They can play early and be good but they're not going to tear games apart as a KPP until a few years. I'd prefer a situation where out good KPP are older than our good midfielders when we're competing rather than the other way round

None of them (Reid, Cox, Brand or Eyre) appear to be physically capable of playing immediately. At least with Eyre and Brand we want be wasting top resources to get them and missing out on high level mid sized players.

For mine we’ve already gone through 10 years of having competent talls and no midfielders, I’d prefer not to repeat the experience.

 

[andleanback]

None of them (Reid, Cox, Brand or Eyre) appear to be physically capable of playing immediately. At least with Eyre and Brand we want be wasting top resources to get them and missing out on high level mid sized players.

For mine we’ve already gone through 10 years of having competent talls and no midfielders, I’d prefer not to repeat the experience.

Cox can play immediately, he's so versatile he isnt pigeon holed to playing a key tall role.

 

[Steve94]

None of them (Reid, Cox, Brand or Eyre) appear to be physically capable of playing immediately. At least with Eyre and Brand we want be wasting top resources to get them and missing out on high level mid sized players.

For mine we’ve already gone through 10 years of having competent talls and no midfielders, I’d prefer not to repeat the experience.

It's only one extra tall though, we still have young mids coming through and can target more early in future drafts. I'm not 100% on taking 2 talls early, I just feel that Cox/Reid are better than the other midfielders that will be available then.

My preference would be to trade back with pick 8 and go for someone like O'Driscoll or Poulter.

 

[Atavistic]

There is approximately a 0.000000000000000000001% chance Hollands slips to us

 

[Keystone agony]

None of them (Reid, Cox, Brand or Eyre) appear to be physically capable of playing immediately. At least with Eyre and Brand we want be wasting top resources to get them and missing out on high level mid sized players.

For mine we’ve already gone through 10 years of having competent talls and no midfielders, I’d prefer not to repeat the experience.

Is Competent talls good enough? In my opinion the last 3 years the talls have been poor

 

[Old Campaigner]

Does make a level of sense
Between Reid, Cox, Zerk, Wright, Jones, Bryan, Brand & Eyre, we should find at least 4 to build a decent spine around for the best part of a decade.

Trade off is a thin midfield
Shiel, Merrett, McGrath, Parish, Heppell, Caldwell, Langford up on a wing/HFF, Perkins and whoever supports from the little depth we hold.
But we've had that for a while, so could live with it another year and hit draft/trade/FA period hard to fill that gap.

The list has gaps and we're never going to fill them all in a single draft.

People say next year is a good draft for midfielders, and we have a good draft hand to grab 2 of the best few KPPs in the current draft. Seems fairly logical to get them while they're available.

 

[brutus76]

Surely Pies will seek us offering 16 and a future first for 8 or the Cats come knocking so they can get one of their Falcon boys who are both marked top 10 seeing they got nothing.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Is Competent talls good enough? In my opinion the last 3 years the talls have been poor

Personally I’m really sick of having a shit midfield for two decades. Either way it’s going to be hard to win a flag with deficiencies, but I think a great midfield in isolation can get you places great kpp can’t in isolation. Get a great midfield in place and it’s much easier to spot fix KPP holes.

 

[PhoenixBonez]

Ade: Thilthorpe
NM: McDonald
Syd: DGB
WB: JUH
Haw: Perkins
GC: Hollands
Syd: Campbell
Ess: Phillips
Ess: Bruhn
PA: Jones
Ess: Henry

and the meltdowns begin.

Funny thing is I don’t think it’s that unrealistic.