List Mgmt. Draft Watch 2021

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owen87

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From the last 5 years including this one we have, Jones, Eyre and Bryan. 1 hit and two to be determined.

In the same period Melbourne has Fristch, Jordon, Sparrow, Bowey, Laurie, Rivers. That is the premiership level drafting we should be aspiring to.
Where did the other second rounders go?

You can't just ignore the players we've traded in with those selections, they haven't evaporated.
 

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daniher dynasty

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I've also seen him get outmarked by players smaller than him and not known for marking. I can really only judge on what I've seen live (I generally don't like watching highlights packages).

He'd probably be one of the slowest non KPP's we have on our list
Never seen him play but from your description Eth he's sounds a bit like a (very) poor man's Daniel Rich.
 

TheGrizz

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Where did the other second rounders go?

You can't just ignore the players we've traded in with those selections, they haven't evaporated.
This year's and last year's were Caldwell.
2017 we traded a couple of 2nds for Stringer and one for Saad.

Saad and Stringer are wins, Caldwell yet to be seen
 

Red Black and Blue

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Where did the other second rounders go?

You can't just ignore the players we've traded in with those selections, they haven't evaporated.
Sure, there has been some success. Not really interested in revisionist history on every Shiel/Caldwell vs Smith/Stringer.

The problem for mine is the strategy, doesn’t appear to be related to the list health for mine. We have just had a draft that’s reminiscent of a top 4 team and only one in 5 years that we’ve tried to rebuild.

Not a team that’s 50/50 on finals next year. We seem to be consolidating for a premiership run.

The list is in decent shape but clearly lacks dominant superstars. I’m very concerned we are jumping the gun again.

How this ties into the second round is we have been slow to the uptake on how it has become an extension of the first round in recent years with how the development programs have improved and should be treated as a reservoir of potentially elite players.
 
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owen87

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I’m very concerned we are jumping the gun again.
I think you're being dramatic.

We had a very strong hand last year, dragged in currency from this year to get Caldwell as a former first round selection, kept this years first, have a full suite of picks next year plus 2 x Father-Sons, and consistently fielded one of the youngest lists in the AFL last season.

Not really interested in revisionist history on every Shiel/Caldwell vs Smith/Stringer.
What does this even mean?
 

rusman

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In reality there is simply a lot of guessing going on here .Even more than normal. These players have a very small sample size. The reason I am not all that locked in on any one player is there is just not a lot to go on.
I generally like to have seen over 3 games live and quite a few on replay before starting to form a strong opinion.
This talk is insanity. The clear consensus is don’t watch games, highlights, draft reports or look even at stats.

To be on this board you must agree to form unwavering opinions on the only thing that is truely important…. 190+cm
 

doug85

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I dont think the lack of trades has to do with teams wanting to trade up, but rather teams were really reluctant to trade back.
Even if we wanted to move up, we may not have had anyone who wanted to do a deal to move back.

I would have liked Draper, but it is what it is. I remember when we passed on Rantall and everyone lost their minds, you never know.
I think this answers our question
 

TheGrizz

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I think this answers our question
There you go.

Like I said, it's hard to trade up when no one wants to trade back. I am just happy we kept all our future picks, as having our 2nd rounder would have been handy last night (though i am happy with Caldwell).

Apparently we were big on Arthur Jones as well.
 

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