Recruiting Draft Watch 2021

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eDPS's 2021 Draft Rankings

Lore's 2021 Provisional Draft Order
Any issues with it please tag Lore in this thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2021-provisional-draft-order.1251001/

 

[citizen-erased]

It’s hard to predict which way the club will go and how many picks we actually use. Personally I’d grab Charlie McKay as he can potentially fill two holes as either a contested beast midfielder or a defensive stopper. From what I’ve seen so far there isn’t many 19 year olds that look like being instant fixes to our list for the here and now so we may just take the best 19 year old talent we can get no matter the position or just play safe and take an Essendon VFL listed player like Dunkley, Atley, McLarty or O’Kearney.

Rather than instant fix, is there anyone you'd approach the MSD with as another round of the 2020 draft with more exposure?
i.e. any kids (Maher, Corrigan, etc.) that you'd look to the future with.

At this stage i'd be maximising the picks with Hurley (LTI), Moz (LTI) & McQuillan to help with the rebuild.

 

[eth-dog]

Rather than instant fix, is there anyone you'd approach the MSD with as another round of the 2020 draft with more exposure?
i.e. any kids (Maher, Corrigan, etc.) that you'd look to the future with.

At this stage i'd be maximising the picks with Hurley (LTI), Moz (LTI) & McQuillan to help with the rebuild.

McQuillan's spot has been used on Baldwin.

 

[faible]

Rather than instant fix, is there anyone you'd approach the MSD with as another round of the 2020 draft with more exposure?
i.e. any kids (Maher, Corrigan, etc.) that you'd look to the future with.

At this stage i'd be maximising the picks with Hurley (LTI), Moz (LTI) & McQuillan to help with the rebuild.

We can also throw Shiel and Caldwell on there if we really want, as it sounds like they're unlikely to be fit until the last few weeks of the season at this point and may be better to shelve them until 2022.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

In the last 6 years, most of the players we have drafted after pick 50 of note have been players that would be availiable in a MSD. There are very few exceptions.

Mitch Brown (mature age)
Michael Hartley (mature age)
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (mature age)
Dylan Clarke (junior)
Sam Draper (junior)
Zerk-Thatcher (19-year-old)
Matt Guelfi (mature age)
Brayden Ham (19-year-old)
Ned Cahill (junior)

I guess in my mind the question is:

Do we want to pick MSD eligible types in June or November?

 

[Hak94]

It’s hard to predict which way the club will go and how many picks we actually use. Personally I’d grab Charlie McKay as he can potentially fill two holes as either a contested beast midfielder or a defensive stopper. From what I’ve seen so far there isn’t many 19 year olds that look like being instant fixes to our list for the here and now so we may just take the best 19 year old talent we can get no matter the position or just play safe and take an Essendon VFL listed player like Dunkley, Atley, McLarty or O’Kearney.

Thanks for this! Since the success of picking up Snelling, the MSD is really exciting. He's been super for us, great value and I think he's really found his place in the team. Don't think we need a quick fix type player at any position but just finding a gem that can build/grow with the rest of the team.

 

[eth-dog]

Personally would love a midfielder in the MSD (and a ruck). If we have 3 picks then take a second mid.

 

[citizen-erased]

We can also throw Shiel and Caldwell on there if we really want, as it sounds like they're unlikely to be fit until the last few weeks of the season at this point and may be better to shelve them until 2022.

i did initially think Shiel could be a candidate rather than risk him
Caldwell i still hope isn't as bad as it seemed and will get a 1/3 of a season in the team.

3 would be plenty imo.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Personally would love a midfielder in the MSD (and a ruck). If we have 3 picks then take a second mid.

What are your thoughts on the Coburg boys this season?

 

[faible]

i did initially think Shiel could be a candidate rather than risk him
Caldwell i still hope isn't as bad as it seemed and will get a 1/3 of a season in the team.

3 would be plenty imo.

I'd like to see us load up in the MSD and see what shakes loose, Shiel I'd definitely throw on there as he doesn't need to get games in, Caldwell would benefit if he's likely to get on the park and fit though, I agree.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

We have practically 0 selection pressure right now.

It's not a good situation for either the short term or long term.

We should try to change that at the MSD.

 

[Lore]

We have practically 0 selection pressure right now.

What do you think causes this? (And therefore, what might the solution be, specifically?)

 

[Harlequin Dream]

What do you think causes this? (And therefore, what might the solution be, specifically?)

1/ 11 players on the injury list

2/ Players who aren't ready yet: Eyre, McBride, Johnson, Hird, Brand

3/ Reduced list sizes


We can't do anything about point 2 or 3. Point 1 gives us the opportunity to replace some of the long-term injured with MSD draftees.

I would be happy to use our first pick in the MSD on a 19-year-old. Use the other picks on players who are 20 years-old to 24 years-old who aren't injury prone, don't need to be the number 1 player to make an impact, and can use the ball competently. Most players who fit that description would fit above Cahill on the depth chart.

 

[eth-dog]

What are your thoughts on the Coburg boys this season?

Only one I'd consider would be Podhajski, but his kicking is too poor.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Only one I'd consider would be Podhajski, but his kicking is too poor.

Field kicking or goal kicking?

Is Charlie Thompson still too slow?

 

[eth-dog]

Field kicking or goal kicking?

Is Charlie Thompson still too slow?

Field. Charlie Thompson is just a good VFL player, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

Field.

Killer weakness for the role he could possibly have at the next level.

 

[eth-dog]

Killer weakness for the role he could possibly have at the next level.

I think he can play as a midfielder. His hands are fantastic.

 

[Harlequin Dream]

I think he can play as a midfielder. His hands are fantastic.

He would need to be drafted to find that out.

Far too valuable as a key forward for Coburg right now.

 

[faible]

He would need to be drafted to find that out.

Far too valuable as a key forward for Coburg right now.

Drafting a player as a midfielder who's not playing as a midfielder does sound very Essendon.

 

[ant555]

It’s hard to predict which way the club will go and how many picks we actually use. Personally I’d grab Charlie McKay as he can potentially fill two holes as either a contested beast midfielder or a defensive stopper. From what I’ve seen so far there isn’t many 19 year olds that look like being instant fixes to our list for the here and now so we may just take the best 19 year old talent we can get no matter the position or just play safe and take an Essendon VFL listed player like Dunkley, Atley, McLarty or O’Kearney.

Not 100% on this but I have heard we may be looking at using two picks.
It will be interesting to see which way they go given the 19 year old players have not quite produced what many had hoped they would so far.

 

[Ati Tude]

Not 100% on this but I have heard we may be looking at using two picks.
It will be interesting to see which way they go given the 19 year old players have not quite produced what many had hoped they would so far.

Why wouldn't we use 2 picks if we have the spots? Nothing to lose isn't there (other than a smallish amount of money).

 

[Duckworth]

Why wouldn't we use 2 picks if we have the spots? Nothing to lose isn't there (other than a smallish amount of money).

I think this would mean putting Mosquito and maybe Hurley on the inactive list (or whatever the list is called)

 

[andleanback]

If Josh Green keeps up his form in the vfl I’d be happy to pick him or Charlie Mckay. Liam Conway is another one is hope essendon care keeping an eye on. I imagine most 19yos managers will be making them go for the 18 month contract aswell so they don’t have a cody Hirst situation .

 

[ant555]

Why wouldn't we use 2 picks if we have the spots? Nothing to lose isn't there (other than a smallish amount of money).

All I was saying is they may be looking at 2.If they put everyone on the LTI they could have 4 , not that they will.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Any ideas who we might look at in the MSD?