Recruiting Draft Watch - Jones, Bryan, Johnson, Cahill, Hibberd in

Remove this Banner Ad

Status
Not open for further replies.

Log in to remove this ad.

I'm Cassidy Parish and there's no way, I'm playing for the VFL team - He will not get enough midfield time at Essendon VFL - he should be looking to play in the SANFL or WAFL.


Is Parish any more likely to be drafted in 2018 than 2019? I'd say that, if anything, 2019 is more likely.

He'll end up at a club, regardless of whether it's VFL, SANFL or WAFL, where he will spend his first year working his way into a side. We know from experience with our first year AFL-listed players that hardly any play midfield for more than a quarter of their first year. I can only assume that they don't play midfield as they're not ready because when it comes it usually comes late. With our VFL players we generally spend year 1 integrating new players into our VFL side and then, if good enough, said player becomes a weekly selection in a more prominent role from from year two.

I'm not sure that Parish necessarily wants to play 22 games as a midfielder next year because there is a good chance that he will struggle which then becomes a mark against him. What he'd want is to use 2018 as a platform for 2019 by which time he will have been able to work his way into a side. To tempt recruiters from this point he's going to have to bulk up and become super fit. That's a process that will take time.

There is no reason that is any more or less likely to happen at one of the VFL stand-alone sides or the SANFL or WAFL and I don't think that the development leagues have any role to play.
 
Last edited:
Is Parish any more likely to be drafted in 2018 than 2019? I'd say that, if anything, 2019 is more likely.

He'll end up at a club, regardless of whether it's VFL, SANFL or WAFL, where he will spend his first year working his way into a side. We know from experience with our first year AFL-listed players that hardly any play midfield for more than a quarter of their first year. I can only assume that they don't play midfield as they're not ready because when it comes it usually comes late. With our VFL players we generally spend year 1 integrating new players into our VFL side and then, if good enough, said player becomes a weekly selection in a more prominent role from from year two.

I'm not sure that Parish necessarily wants to play 22 games as a midfielder next year because there is a good chance that he will struggle which then becomes a mark against him. What he'd want is to use 2018 as a platform for 2019 by which time he will have been able to work his way into a side. To tempt recruiters from this point he's going to have to bulk up and because super fit. That's a process that will take time.

There is no reason that is any more or less likely to happen at one of the VFL stand-alone sides or the SANFL or WAFL and I don't think that the development leagues have any role to play.
And there is the other reason why he didn't get picked, he cant play anywhere but midfield. He is too slow and too poor overhead to be a forward or a defender.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

And there is the other reason why he didn't get picked, he cant play anywhere but midfield. He is too slow and too poor overhead to be a forward or a defender.

Sounds like he’s the definition of one dimensional.
 
Sounds like he’s the definition of one dimensional.


Charlie Constable fell all the way into the 30s and he is the elite version of Parish (and in all likelihood will become an elite inside mid in the AFL).

I don't think that players like Parish no longer have a role to play in AFL sides but they're long term projects because they either have to develop other strings to their bows or they have to be the finished product midfield machine to be viable AFL selections.
 
Charlie Constable fell all the way into the 30s and he is the elite version of Parish (and in all likelihood will become an elite inside mid in the AFL).

I don't think that players like Parish no longer have a role to play in AFL sides but they're long term projects because they either have to develop other strings to their bows or they have to be the finished product midfield machine to be viable AFL selections.
Constable can play HB and HF pretty well, unlike Parish he is extremely good overhead.
 
And there is the other reason why he didn't get picked, he cant play anywhere but midfield. He is too slow and too poor overhead to be a forward or a defender.

Quite litterally the 2018 version of Jonty Scharenberg.

Jonty went back to SANFL level and asked to play in other positions. Found a niche at half back but that kicking and lack of pace hurt him as the year went on iirc.

Cassidy wont make it unfortunately. Good luck to the kid on forging a career at VFL level though
 
Charlie Constable fell all the way into the 30s and he is the elite version of Parish (and in all likelihood will become an elite inside mid in the AFL).

I don't think that players like Parish no longer have a role to play in AFL sides but they're long term projects because they either have to develop other strings to their bows or they have to be the finished product midfield machine to be viable AFL selections.
Nah as D_P_S and Yoda_ said, sadly it doesn't look like Cassidy has the tools to make it as the negatives (at least at present) appear to significantly outweigh any potentialy positives.

Strengths: Win contested ball/clearances, accumulate possessions.
Weaknesses: Kicking (sounds as though he's one of if not the worst kicks to come through in recent years), speed, x-factor, one dimensional.

Put it this way we just got rid of 2 of our 3 worst ball users by foot (Howlett & Bird, the 3rd being Colyer), why would we go out of our way to add Parish who from the sounds of it is even worse?
 
The way we are building our team, it seems we have a massive preference for good ball users over positions required. We're all screaming for inside bulls, the club recruits other positions, but they can use the ball well. Can't wait to see how the game plan continues to unfold. It's going to be an exciting time.
 
The way we are building our team, it seems we have a massive preference for good ball users over positions required. We're all screaming for inside bulls, the club recruits other positions, but they can use the ball well. Can't wait to see how the game plan continues to unfold. It's going to be an exciting time.

Good ball users and players who can play multiple positions. With the way the game itself has changed, being able to rest forward/back is pretty crucial now with the rotations in place.

Cassidy Parish seems like a nice kid, but quite literally lacks two of the biggest attributes to play AFL footy circa 2017. Kicking and endurance
 
Good ball users and players who can play multiple positions. With the way the game itself has changed, being able to rest forward/back is pretty crucial now with the rotations in place.

Cassidy Parish seems like a nice kid, but quite literally lacks two of the biggest attributes to play AFL footy circa 2017. Kicking and endurance

In Parish's favour is that he has the raw size that Scharenberg doesn't - A good year (or two) in the VFL to build his tank and work on his kicking and versatility could see him earn a chance on a senior list somewhere.

If Darcy had the size of his brother we'd be laughing!
 
The academy players in next years draft, a few sound worthy of a bid: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-29/2018-academy-players-to-keep-an-eye-on
2018 academy players to keep an eye on
Adam Curley and Michael Whiting November 29, 2017 7:00 AM
527839-tlsnewsportrait.jpg

Nick Blakey will have three clubs waiting by the phone next year


MANY footy experts have described the 2018 NAB AFL Draft as a bumper crop, and four clubs will be hoping their academy programs can provide them with plenty of future stars.

Among the list of potential draftees next year are father-son selections Nick Blakey, son of former Fitzroy and North Melbourne defender John, and Bailey Scott, son of former Geelong and North Melbourne midfielder Robert.

Blakey and Scott helped the Kangaroos to the 1996 premiership.

The intriguing part about the pair of talented youngsters is that both are eligible to be claimed by the clubs their fathers played at, but they're also part of the academy system, with Blakey (Sydney) and Scott (Gold Coast) growing up in the northern states.

It should add plenty to next year's lead-up to the draft when the teenagers will be forced to nominate their preferred destinations.

Below, AFL.com.au nominates five players at each academy you should keep an eye on in 2018.

BRISBANE LIONS
Tom Matthews
Half-back/wing

Excellent outside player with a good kick and strong overhead mark. Showed his class at the under-17 All Star game on Grand Final eve, racking up 12 disposals in the first quarter before switching positions.

Darcy Marsh
Small forward

Clever left-footer who reads the play well and has an excellent sense around goal. A former Australian under-17 cricketer who has given away the bat and ball to focus on footy.

Justin Currie
Wing

A former national level middle-distance runner, Currie has overcome a stress fracture in his lower back and has resumed full training. Has excellent speed and endurance, and will complete his game with more contested ball work.

Ben Sloan
Half-forward

Missed out on being drafted this year, but the Lions will bring him back to focus purely on their academy program in 2018. Sloan has a good leap, is a strong mark for his size and has broken three seconds for the 20m sprint. Just needs a little more consistency within matches.

Jack Clayton
Defender

Like Sloan, wasn't drafted this year after spending time with the AFL Academy, Lions academy, Lions NEAFL team and Allies under-18s. A small defender with good skills, the club believes training exclusively with its academy (and seniors through pre-season) will improve his game immeasurably.

GOLD COAST
Bailey Scott
Midfielder

A highly talented midfielder who can play inside and outside, Scott is already 186cm and has good speed, excellent endurance and can kick well off both sides. The son of former North Melbourne and Geelong star Robert, he'll have the choice of either club as a father-son or the Suns academy in 12 months' time.

scott281117.jpg


Caleb Graham
Defender

Like Jack Bowes before him, hails from Cairns and has moved to the Gold Coast to give footy his best shot. Graham is a key defender, who can also swing forward, is a strong contested mark and has the great combination of a long reach and good closing speed.

Dirk Koenen
Defender

Has had a few injuries, but at 195cm is a key defender who has already proved adept at intercept marking and is well skilled with ball in hand. Koenen comes from a sporting family with his older sisters Breanna (Lions AFLW team) and Cara (Sunshine Coast Lightning netball) already playing in national competitions.

Cory Beaman
Midfield/forward

Beaman is a former under-15 All Australian with a bit of X-factor. Has dynamic speed and a brilliant vertical leap from his track and field background and can swing between forward and midfield. Just needs to work on his endurance over the next 12 months.

Cooper Portelli
Midfielder

A hard-at-it midfielder, Portelli is a Gold Coast local with a strong body who loves to win the contested ball and finds plenty of it. Needs to work on his polish and finishing skills, but has the makings of an excellent player.

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY
James Peatling
Forward

An agile small-to-medium-sized forward from western Sydney who loves to fly for his marks and knows where the goals are. Defensive tackling pressure has also been impressive inside 50.

Kieren Briggs
Forward

Another western Sydney local who played as a key forward for GWS in the academy series, but is versatile enough to have played as a key defender in the NEAFL. Good speed and agility for his size and a powerful kick.

Jeromy Lucas
Forward/midfielder

A medium-sized forward/midfielder who has a great ability to find the footy, is a quality overhead mark, and finishes his work in front of goals. Kicked three goals in a game of NEAFL last season and will combine his school footy at Xavier College with academy games and the NEAFL again in 2018.

Shaun Driscoll
Small defender/midfielder

A lightly framed half-back/wingman with fantastic endurance and speed, Driscoll is a good overhead mark for his size that covers plenty of territory during a game. An outside midfielder but has the capacity to play inside if needed.

Mathew Walker
Forward

The medium forward kicked multiple bags of goals in the NEAFL last season and finished the year in the All Stars game in Grand Final week. Powerful athlete with quality skills on both sides of his body and a big vertical leap.

SYDNEY
Sam Wicks
Forward/midfielder

Played some really good footy for the Swans reserves and after earning himself a NEAFL Rising Star nomination, was a member of their losing Grand Final side. A small forward who can play as an outside midfielder, Wicks has speed and endurance and is ultra competitive.

Nick Blakey
Forward

A key forward with the versatility to play as a midfielder, Blakey's key attribute is his overhead marking. Inherited his father's running ability and is sure to have all three clubs (Brisbane Lions, North Melbourne and Sydney) waiting by the phone next year.

Michael Carroll
Defender

A raw prospect that is developing quickly and really came on in 2017. Has good closing speed and is excellent one-on-one, is aggressive, sure footed, and is a good size for a key defender. Was about best on ground for Pennant Hills in their Grand Final win this year.

Conor Flanagan
Defender/midfielder

Reads the play extremely well and a standout in the Swans academy in terms of his professionalism towards his footy. A very handy role player because of his competitiveness and elite endurance.

Jack Hardman
Forward

A powerful small forward with a big vertical leap and speed, but needs to work on his endurance and skills over the next 12 months. Has the ingredients to attract plenty of recruiters.

hardman281117.jpg
 
I'm disappointed about not giving Cassidy a shot. You don't win a B&F at the Falcons without being a player. Before anyone list his shortcomings again, I remember a slow, 190cm accumulator who couldn't kick the side of a barn... his name was Jobe watson. Turned out to be a decent contributor. Rockliff was also overlooked for similar reasons.

I always say, you can teach a bloke to kick, you can't teach him to find the ball.
 
I'm disappointed about not giving Cassidy a shot. You don't win a B&F at the Falcons without being a player. Before anyone list his shortcomings again, I remember a slow, 190cm accumulator who couldn't kick the side of a barn... his name was Jobe watson. Turned out to be a decent contributor. Rockliff was also overlooked for similar reasons.

I always say, you can teach a bloke to kick, you can't teach him to find the ball.
Kicking technique is actually one of the hardest things to get right though. Jobe was a poor kick yes, but Cassidy is just awful.

Simply put the reasons Cassidy was overlooked would have been because clubs thought there were more negatives than positives with him. All well and good to be an accumulator but when you turn it over and shank kicks as much as Cassidy apparently does, its just more opportunities for opposition teams to potentially score.

In todays game you need to be able to kick, teams with too many players who can't do it get found out quickly (you only need to look at some of our performances, as well as Collingwood's, etc. as evidence of that).
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top