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Discussion in 'Essendon' started by D_P_S, Jun 6, 2017.
Fogarty at 11
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He has Charlie Constable high comparative to yourself and Knightmare.
I can't dispute Constable being that high. Hasn't played a bad game all year. Only issue is his lack of pace and endurance with endurance not even that bad
Surprised Naughton is still low on most phantoms. Going on the record to say he'll be a star. See signs of Rance and Hurley in him.
This was my top 20 back in February. LDU only that low because he had been injured at the start of the year and missed the last half of last year. Safe to say alot has changed. I had never seen Coffield, Cerra or Constable at this time aswell.
1. Darcy Fogarty
2. Lochie O'Brien
3. Jaidyn Stephenson
4. Cameron Rayner
5. Jack Higgins
6. Hunter Clark
7. Charlie Spargo
8. Connor Ballanden
9. Jarrod Brander
10. Paddy Dow
11. Luke Davies-Uniacke
12. Joel Garner
13. Andrew McPherson
14. Callum Coleman-Jones
15. James Worpel
16. Sam Hayes
17. Nathan Krueger
18. Noah Balta
19. Jackson Edwards
20. Isaac Hewson
Joel garner sounds exactly like the type of halfback we have been looking for.
Provided we keep our first rounder, is he worth our first pick (8-12ish)?
*would your answer change if the Bull midfielders (LDU, Dow, cerra etc) are gone by that point?
Garner has had and up and down season, his best is top 10 Worthy and his worst would see him in the 20-30 range. He can play anywhere so he isn't a pure defender at all. Very similar to Hodge. Both left footers, good marks overhead and great leaders. Id rather a pure inside mid at our first but I wouldn't complain if we took him.
What's his stock then atm? Would he last to our second then do you reckon or is that unlikely
Experts have him from 8-25 so he could go anywhere atm. Eastern look set to play finals so a good showing there could guarantee him a top 20 selection
Eastern Ranges could have 5 players go in the top 20 this year. Trent Mynott is another Eastern player high on clubs radars. 185cm 73 kg inside/outside midfielder who can kick goals. An October birth so he still has plenty of growth left with his old man apparently a pretty big unit.
Mynott has played 4 games for Eastern his stats are
Game 1 18 Disposals, 1 Goal, 4 Tackles
Game 2 30 Disposals, 2 Goals, 7 Tackles
Game 3 31 Disposals, 1 Goal, 7 tackles
Game 4 27 Disposals, 1 Goal, 2 Tackles
He averages 26 Touches a game and has 5 goals for the year equal to Cerra who also averages 26 Touches and has kicked 5 goals. Both from 4 games yet one is rated maybe top 3 with Mynott hardly talked about.
He has been in the bests for all of those games. His game against SA for Metro he had 18 Toucches and 9 tackles.
Along with Jackson Ross, Dylan Moore, Tom North and Ryley Stoddart that's 9 players Eastern could have drafted this year.
11 if Callum Brown's brother and Harrison Nolan are picked as well as the above 9.
Fogarty issue is the same as Aaron Francis' problem
Is there a defined AFL position for him
Too short for key position
Not fit enough for on the footy/ hybrid forward/ medium defender
too slow to play on a flank
it is a dilemma for recruiters
For me I pick on talent and he has an incredible amount of talent. Rayner is a player that hasn't got a great fitness base and he hasn't dominated in the midfield either. I think Fogarty will be fine its been confirmed that the tape on his knee wasn't just for show he has a knee issue and he may not play until late in the year and safe to say if he played fully fit he would have looked alot better.
Everyone from Cal Twomey to Mick Ablett who get more info on players than we ever could still have him as a top 5 prospect despite his poor form in the champs. I still think he will become a midfielder but at worse he becomes a Stringer type forward which in a supposed shallow draft a Stringer type is still a top 10 prospect
I've got some footage here that shows him in a few midfield plays. First one is last year in the 18s
The other thing is he is an elite kick on both sides. He is a better kick than Rayner or LDU. Fogarty has great skill and composure and is tough as nails and clean overhead and at ground level. It doesn't matter what position he will play he can be a star at any end. I like to focus on the positives over the negatives and not many players have the positives that this guy has
He was the perfect build in that video as a 17 year old. Not sure if it was just the knee effecting his mobility or also if he's grown to an awkward size as well.
His mobility early in the year was also fine. Watching him before the Carlton and Essendon game his agility was unreal eth-dog will back me up on this since he was there
Gee love the way this kid moves. Took awhile to guess that his right is his preferred foot. Keeps the ball out of harms way in traffic beautifully. Not sure of the long term assessment but he's exactly the type we need.
It's not often you see players his size move like that and the ones that do lack that contested side or elite kicking. The fact that he hasn't 100% shown he can play midfield full time is irrelevant to me. Some of the best players in the comp are unique. Both Fyfe and Dangerfield played as forwards as 18s and rarely if ever played in the midfield.
I would love Constable to fall to us.
He is what we need, loves the in and under stuff and has great hands.
Later on in the draft the guy I hope falls to our second round pick is Riley Stoddart. Think he has the potential to be a fantastic winger, good size with great kicking skills and a tank.
Constable is another Jobe, slick by hand and can win his own footy. Slow just like Jobe but id say Constable is a longer and better kick.
What's the go with Jonty Scharenberg? Haven't heard a thing since the draft snub, wondering if he's been playing out of his skin trying to get on a list or if the snub has had a negative effect?
Article about each club's recruiting department. Here's ours
"Dale Harris and Michael Jordan make up the club's recruiting division."
Really good get for the blues.
Some updates to the table with added player measurements, clubs and draft range.
July 19th Edition
Only just realised carlton have 1 pick inside 30. Thats nice
**** I hope Fogarty slides to us.