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When you factor in academy bids etc., those picks become pick 8+9 or 8+11. Do you think the club would give pick 1 away for those?

We don't have access to them so why the **** would you factor them in. :shrug:

It's about as relevant as saying if the Queen had balls ...... she would be The King.
 
We don't have access to them so why the **** would you factor them in. :shrug:

It's about as relevant as saying if the Queen had balls ...... she would be The King.
Well, instead of getting the most highly rated player in the draft, currently Duursma, we would be getting the 8th best and maybe 11th best.

My question stands, do people think West Coast would be happy with that?
 

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Well, instead of getting the most highly rated player in the draft, currently Duursma, we would be getting the 8th best and maybe 11th best.

My question stands, do people think West Coast would be happy with that?
If you structure the deal correctly, yes. We all know who we have access to. The only relevance of where the picks land is in the value attached to them. It isn't going to impact who we can actually draft or not draft with those picks. It's not like we can get Richmond's picks, for example, without trading with Richmond.
 
Dunno where Robey will land, but whats he like as a midfielder? Any comparisons to current players?

Is he in the same tier as Sharp/Cumming/Greeves types as a mid? If no then how does he compare?

Vic metro so kinda yuck, but if we are in fact keen on CDT who is metro I dont see why we would be scared by that

If we split pick 1 + hawks 1st for 5+6 and walked away with Robey + some combo of Sharp/CDT/Cumming/Schubert would that be an awful outcome?
 
I think we need to move past the criticism
“we only draft half back flanks with midfield potential “

Under the old regime with O’brien in charge that’s valid.
But now Massey is National Recruiting Manager and his first draft he delivered these.

Bo Allan (pick 16)
Jobe Shanahan (pick 30)
Tom Gross (pick 46)
Lucca Grego (pick 48)
Hamish Davis (pick 65)
Malakai Champion (Category B rookie)

He unfortunately has no say in trades and is the one left to pick up the pieces Matt Clarkes leaves. So besides picking Allen over M.Reid (we all know the homesick rumours) he has done a terrific job.

I’ll back Massey to pick the right players

Let’s hope Clarke has learnt from last year.
 
I think we need to move past the criticism
“we only draft half back flanks with midfield potential “

Under the old regime with O’brien in charge that’s valid.
But now Massey is National Recruiting Manager and his first draft he delivered these.

Bo Allan (pick 16)
Jobe Shanahan (pick 30)
Tom Gross (pick 46)
Lucca Grego (pick 48)
Hamish Davis (pick 65)
Malakai Champion (Category B rookie)

He unfortunately has no say in trades and is the one left to pick up the pieces Matt Clarkes leaves. So besides picking Allen over M.Reid (we all know the homesick rumours) he has done a terrific job.

I’ll back Massey to pick the right players

Let’s hope Clarke has learnt from last year.
Considering the picks he had that was an amazing draft.
 
Dunno where Robey will land, but whats he like as a midfielder? Any comparisons to current players?

Is he in the same tier as Sharp/Cumming/Greeves types as a mid? If no then how does he compare?

Vic metro so kinda yuck, but if we are in fact keen on CDT who is metro I dont see why we would be scared by that

If we split pick 1 + hawks 1st for 5+6 and walked away with Robey + some combo of Sharp/CDT/Cumming/Schubert would that be an awful outcome?
Typically guys who aren’t at the front end of the draft all season have a more open mindset to going interstate.. for so long they are just trying to get drafted.

That being said splitting pick 1 is such a stupid idea for me . Just use the later picks and whatever we get from Chesser to upgrade the hawks pick. This obsession with splitting 1 is mental
 

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Good comparison.

Duursma has some real weapons, that could make him a very dangerous player with real hurt factor, when he is feed by a winning midfield.
And the advantage of having someone like Weddle is that it provides the flexibility to shuffle the team around mid match & be able to still remain balanced by swinging said player into whatever hole requires filling. A good coach makes the most of it.
 
If we split pick 1
shut the fuck up GIF
 
Typically guys who aren’t at the front end of the draft all season have a more open mindset to going interstate.. for so long they are just trying to get drafted.

That being said splitting pick 1 is such a stupid idea for me . Just use the later picks and whatever we get from Chesser to upgrade the hawks pick. This obsession with splitting 1 is mental
Wasnt saying we should do anything, was trying to get info about Robey haha.

Was just an example where we might consider him, as he is unlikely to be a pick 1/2 candidate id think, but pick 5/6 areas? maybe from the sounds of it
 
Would be livid if we gave up duursma so we can get farrow later. Willem looks like a game breaker.
Really shouldn’t be that hard to get both. Upgrading the Hawks pick to the GC pick or just getting the GC pick outright should be a piece of cake with our draft hand.

Would love us to somehow get our hands on Cumming and Farrow but can’t see it happening if we want Sharp or CDT as well.
 
Well, instead of getting the most highly rated player in the draft, currently Duursma, we would be getting the 8th best and maybe 11th best.

My question stands, do people think West Coast would be happy with that?
I’ll help you out here as you appear to be getting a little confused as to who is the best and who we can legitimately draft.

There are some draft watchers that believe Uwland and Annables are better than Duursma and CDT. Yet neither are truly available to us. If we could draft those 2 at 1 and 2, I would be very happy. I believe this is the Queen analogy.

The real question should be, by way of example, would drafting both Cumming and Farrow be a better option than just Duursma.

There are nervous fans that worry about what Duursma will really become. Is he elite in position versatility but not elite at any one position? There is also a question on retention and can he or say CDT stick around long enough in a bottom of the ladder club when both are likely to be fringe or WAFL in 2026
 

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Dunno where Robey will land, but whats he like as a midfielder? Any comparisons to current players?

Is he in the same tier as Sharp/Cumming/Greeves types as a mid? If no then how does he compare?

Vic metro so kinda yuck, but if we are in fact keen on CDT who is metro I dont see why we would be scared by that

If we split pick 1 + hawks 1st for 5+6 and walked away with Robey + some combo of Sharp/CDT/Cumming/Schubert would that be an awful outcome?
I have seen some saying LDU type mid.

I watched a half yesterday and seems to spread very well, wants to ball in his hands, not panicked (even if this leads to him sometimes getting rid of it late at times), strong in the air with clean grabs and long kick. I didn’t see too much clearance work but was glued to the game.

I thought he looked like more of a receiver in the small sample size I watched. A taller Sheezle type but like I said it was a very small sample size of a very small sample size of an u18s campaign.
 
I have seen some saying LDU type mid.

I watched a half yesterday and seems to spread very well, wants to ball in his hands, not panicked (even if this leads to him sometimes getting rid of it late at times), strong in the air with clean grabs and long kick. I didn’t see too much clearance work but was glued to the game.

I thought he looked like more of a receiver in the small sample size I watched. A taller Sheezle type but like I said it was a very small sample size of a very small sample size of an u18s campaign.
Big lad, is he quick though?
 
Well, instead of getting the most highly rated player in the draft, currently Duursma, we would be getting the 8th best and maybe 11th best.

My question stands, do people think West Coast would be happy with that?
Your question is valid, but the logic doesn't work.

With pick 1 we can't take Dan Annable or Zeke Uwland anyway. We can make a bid and make Brisbane and Gold Coast match and pay more for them, but we have no access to them.

Therefore the figure above doesn't matter.
 
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If Farrow is who we want and we didn't think he was worth pick 6, we should be able to trade that down.

Pick 6 will become pick 9 or 10. Even 11 or 12.

Annables, Uwland, Patterson should all go before pick 6.

Dean is ranked 10.

Farrow at live pick 10 isnt out of the question however Cumming will likely be there around 10 as well.
 

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