List Mgmt. Drafting SA kids as a priority.

[Mismatched]

Be nice if we had zones (Crows and Power) draft from SANFL only. No one else gets there grubby mitts on our SA players. Still have the Free agent thing so players can get the big offers. Might make it even more tribal.
Back to the days of Macca telling the big V to **** off.

This is the only way it would work unfortunately, the draft makes it extremely difficult to selectively draft someone from a certain area. Its hard enough as it is to draft enough elite talent, let alone if you're restricting your draft pool even futher.

West Coast have been a little lucky with having a few locals fall into their laps. For example the year they had the #2 draft pick, Naitanui was a clear top 2 prospect, Darling fell to them at 28 or something, Kennedy was traded back to them with the Judd trade that also gave them pick 3 for Masten. Their captain though is South Australian and their best midfielder is Victorian in Shuey.

If there is a really good SA kid we like who will be gone by our pick I'd like to see us manouver ourselves in the draft order to get him.

Would love to be able to somehow maneuver ourselves into a position to draft Francis this year, guy looks like an absolute gun. Unfortunately the cost again makes such deals pretty restrictive.

 

[Cleric]

West Coast don't have a list composed of 'x amount' of Western Australians. They have a best talent available policy and it just so happens that WA junior football is incredibly strong. The argument for drafting from home as a priority will only lead to failure.

What we need to do more of is identify home grown talent that hasn't kicked on at interstate clubs (see Aish, Toumpas etc). This is how we develop a strong list whilst spending speculative picks on high end talent.

Go back and see who they preference with their first pick.

 

[Sanders]

Go back and see who they preference with their first pick.

Who they preference?

Is this more verb mangling from the hipster kids?

 

[Red mist]

West Coast picked Liam Duggan and Tom Lamb with their first two draft picks last season. Both Victorian.
Traded in Yeo and Cripps who are WA natives from non WA afl clubs.

 

[spenze]

We should only draft NT kids...no way they'd want to o back to Darwin after they'd been in Adelaide

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Clearly if we believe we have a gem, then it doesn't matter where they are from

But the draft is so hit & miss I think probably the weighting to recruiting local should be considered and perhaps increased. Not just to remove the go home factor but also to keep a local flavor to the side.

 

[feenix67]

I'd rather see the club be innovative in devising strategies to mitigate the allure of returning home to Victoria (or wherever). Making a club (or location) more desirable is more complex than just a good culture and great beaches.

I'd rather see the club become leaders in player retention than adopt a nepotistic policy that sees us move away from best available talent.

 

[JPetro83]

I think drafting interstate kids that are single and come from a broken home should be a priority....
Dangerfields closeness with his family is bordering on weird.

 

[JPetro83]

We should be targeting kids that come from South Aust, NT, Tas and far out rural areas of Australia that are nowhere near any major cities. That way there is no go home factor.

 

[baldandbroke]

Geelong organised a pick swap so they could get ahead of the two WA teams - and nab Cockatoo.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I think we need a higher percentage of SA players. Problem is it won't work unless the league gives us some sort of leg-up in drafting elite SA talent.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

The other strategy would be to only trade Vic. guys who are unlucky in love - then introduce them to lovely SA girls with crazy obsessive families.

 

[jackster83]

Apart from a couple of standouts each year (I.e. Wingard, Smith) the SA U/18 team produces players more suited to SANFL than AFL. Guys like Battersby who are small and slow but know how to find the footy.

Drafting Haysman and Snelling this year might help our go home factor but it won't address our needs.

 

[relapse]

West Coast don't have a list composed of 'x amount' of Western Australians. They have a best talent available policy and it just so happens that WA junior football is incredibly strong. The argument for drafting from home as a priority will only lead to failure.

What we need to do more of is identify home grown talent that hasn't kicked on at interstate clubs (see Aish, Toumpas etc). This is how we develop a strong list whilst spending speculative picks on high end talent.

I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that West Coast changed their recruiting strategy post Chris Judd ?

 

[dogs105]

I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that West Coast changed their recruiting strategy post Chris Judd ?

It was probably on here, from Cleric

 

[CrowinNT]

We should only draft NT kids...no way they'd want to o back to Darwin after they'd been in Adelaide

Seriously? Even the Todd River flowing 3 x plus brings mythical & compelling return.
The salt water Barra and climate alone keeps us here.

 

[dogs105]

Seriously? Even the Todd River flowing 3 x plus brings mythical & compelling return.
The salt water Barra and climate alone keeps us here.

And the corgis

 

[Mike Smyth]

I think drafting interstate kids that are single and come from a broken home should be a priority....
Dangerfields closeness with his family is bordering on weird.

Agree. His parents are 1st cousins.

 

[Mike Smyth]

Rule #1 - We pick to our needs and gaps, irrelevant of where they come from.

If we feel we need more SA boys then we would probably have more luck during trade period....HOWEVER....it still MUST align with rule #1.

Not sure what the answer is but there's no denying interstaters leaving has most likely cost a damn good chance at our 3rd premiership.

 

[Samcro24]

Apart from a couple of standouts each year (I.e. Wingard, Smith) the SA U/18 team produces players more suited to SANFL than AFL. Guys like Battersby who are small and slow but know how to find the footy.

Drafting Haysman and Snelling this year might help our go home factor but it won't address our needs.

I think we are in a bit of slump here in terms of producing talent. Where are all the good players around the 80-150 game range? Take out some of the older SA players and what does the state team look like? Not too pretty.

Theres been plenty of top picks/hyped players go bust in recent years too (or on the way)
Toumpas 4
Tapscott 18
Howard 15
Gorringe 10
Tape 13
Johnston 12
Trengove 2
Shoenmakers 16
Obrien 28

While names like Mayes, Menzel x2, GHS, Kennedy, Lycett, Aish, Polec have all had trouble cementing a spot in the 22 to date. Its a far cry from the days of Platten, Kernahan, Jarman, Bradley etc.

 

[jenny61_99]

Agree. His parents are 1st cousins.

How old are you? These are the parents that let Fitzy "kidnap" them before he signed his last contract. They have always supported him playing here.

 

[FantasticShirt]

I think we are in a bit of slump here in terms of producing talent. Where are all the good players around the 80-150 game range? Take out some of the older SA players and what does the state team look like? Not too pretty.

Theres been plenty of top picks/hyped players go bust in recent years too (or on the way)
Toumpas 4
Tapscott 18
Howard 15
Gorringe 10
Tape 13
Johnston 12
Trengove 2
Shoenmakers 16
Obrien 28

While names like Mayes, Menzel x2, GHS, Kennedy, Lycett, Aish, Polec have all had trouble cementing a spot in the 22 to date. Its a far cry from the days of Platten, Kernahan, Jarman, Bradley etc.

This is the key issue for me. Severe lack of quality SA youngsters. Not really sure what can be done to address that.

I still prefer we target best available (with a risk management element included to avoid players that clearly aren't interested in moving interstate). And then also target SA talent via trades and FA (e.g. Mayes, Aish, Redden).

 

[Slippery Pete]

how many times does it have to shown what a ******* stupid idea this is before people stop going all goldfish and suggesting the same thing every week or so?

round and ******* round we go

its a dumb idea. it'll be a dumb idea next time someone else suggests too.

you pick the best players available to you, if you need a tiebreak go for the local lad, but only if they are about equal.

Beat me to it. It's such a dumb argument.

The club already has the "SA kid if it's line-ball" policy in place. Both SA clubs do. It's not like we're overlooking a whole bunch Chad Wingards to pick up Ricky Henderson.

Our biggest problem has been all the excellent SA players are gone by our first draft pick!

Correct.

 

[creme_fraiche]

I am pretty sure that I read somewhere that West Coast changed their recruiting strategy post Chris Judd ?

Only when it reflects on a 50/50 pick.

West Coast will still pick an interstate talent if they're best available.

As I said before it also helps that WA junior footy is as strong as ever.

 

[Mike Smyth]

How old are you? These are the parents that let Fitzy "kidnap" them before he signed his last contract. They have always supported him playing here.

I believe they were big players in the annual Moggs Creek "Copulating of the Cousins" festival.

You would be great fun at parties.