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Silent Alarm said:
Has anyone here ever gone out alone?
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funnily enough, I do. Generally my time to go out never matches up with my mates - so I end up going solo

normally, I'll meet up with someone I know randomly- but a few nights I end up joining random people and moving around with them - the longest was about 6 hours (10 till 4am) no idea who they were, but they bought me drinks and paid for the taxis so I was happy.
 
Weird. I'd just feel really awkward sitting around, drinking by myself. I think it's pretty weird to even go by yourself to a pub if you're 21 or under. But that's just me. But considering I only ever go out with one or two mates (I have the most fractured social circle), it's good to get another group on board.
 
Silent Alarm said:
Weird. I'd just feel really awkward sitting around, drinking by myself. I think it's pretty weird to even go by yourself to a pub if you're 21 or under. But that's just me. But considering I only ever go out with one or two mates (I have the most fractured social circle), it's good to get another group on board.
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It's very easy when the footy or cricket is on.
 

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Silent Alarm said:
Weird. I'd just feel really awkward sitting around, drinking by myself. I think it's pretty weird to even go by yourself to a pub if you're 21 or under. But that's just me. But considering I only ever go out with one or two mates (I have the most fractured social circle), it's good to get another group on board.
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The pub culture in England is so much better in that respect. If you go into your local and you are on your own, chances are that you will either know the bar wench to chat to, or that one of the other regulars would be there and you could chat to them.
The local pub is one the few things I really miss about living in England.
 
went out on my own a few times in America and had people coming up to chat ect all the time.

been out on my own a few times in melbourne and people just gave me wierd looks..
 
I've never drunk alcohol. The following weblink describes the choice quite well.
http://elitedaily.com/life/how-the-decision-to-never-drink-has-changed-my-life/

Everyone tries to get me to have a drink and I politely decline every time. Is there anyone else out there that has been in the first and the last situation in that link that have managed to get past these experiences? Dating is non-existent for me. :(
 
If you don't drink, you kind of have to drink coffee (and be great conversation over coffee). Otherwise, you're screwed. Whilst culture is all silly, it certainly helps to have at least one social lubricant up your sleeve (to help break the ice). A lot of my friends tend to be older than me though, it might be more bothersome if most friends are young adults that enjoy a big night.

Growing up, there was never a big drinking culture among my family and relatives, so I never had any preconceived prejudice against it. I remember one day in Year 7 everyone was laughing about the word 'hangover' and at the time I didn't even know what it meant. But you kind of have to try everything once. I don't drink nowadays for the same reasons you don't, but in my teen years I sure did, and have no regrets about trying it out or anything, it's just a drink. Either you grew up very fast (and subconsciously picked up a lot of reasons why not to drink), somehow avoided alcohol pressures until well after school or you just aren't the type of person that tries new experiences.

I do hate the 'teetotaller' term though, especially in regards to those that have experienced drinking. It's especially a rife concept in Australia. "Have a beer with me, mate!!!". It's like if you don't succumb to a drink you can't be trusted.

I actually don't mind being out with friends drinking, but I HATE going to a pub or loud alcoholic area. If I go out for a dinner, I like a restaurant where you can hear yourself talk. The pub is always loud, plus it's a cultural hive of fakeness (I'd love to do a satire on the change of regular behaviour in a pub). Loud environments ruin my enjoyment of conversation, and drinking conversation for sober people can deteriorate quickly after an hour or so.

Generally though, I've found that not eating red meat, and being trans*, have been far bigger and more recurring social killers than not drinking alcohol. If your social life isn't night life, then alcohol rarely comes up on the radar.
 
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Roobs321 said:
I actually don't mind being out with friends drinking, but I HATE going to a pub or loud alcoholic area. If I go out for a dinner, I like a restaurant where you can hear yourself talk. The pub is always loud, plus it's a cultural hive of fakeness (I'd love to do a satire on the change of regular behaviour in a pub). Loud environments ruin my enjoyment of conversation, and drinking conversation for sober people can deteriorate quickly after an hour or so.
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Thanks for that, sadly never been that keen on coffee either... However, that is exactly right, when people drunklingly talk over the top of each other, that's when I'm done.
 
Resistor said:
I've never drunk alcohol. The following weblink describes the choice quite well.
http://elitedaily.com/life/how-the-decision-to-never-drink-has-changed-my-life/

Everyone tries to get me to have a drink and I politely decline every time. Is there anyone else out there that has been in the first and the last situation in that link that have managed to get past these experiences? Dating is non-existent for me. :(
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First off I completely respect the decision of you and the guy in that link not to drink. Entirely a personal a choice, and not something that should be held against you. I have mates who don't like to drink much or at all, and you will get f'wits trying to pressure them into it especially given Australia's ingrained blokey culture. But I say good on anyone with the strength of character to stand by their convictions.

That said I have to strenuously disagree with his contention that the cons outweigh the pros, I would have it the other way round and by a very long margin. Maybe I will see more cons as I get older, but really no pros? Please. I think this is a classic case of 'don't knock it til you tried it'. I'm not really interested in drugs any harder than weed, but I'm not gonna pretend like I don't see why people like them.

Anyway mate when it comes to girls, the way I'd think about it is if not drinking is important to you, why would you want to be involved with a someone who doesn't respect or understand that decision? I know plenty of people, especially girls, who don't really drink.
 
crownie said:
went out on my own a few times in America and had people coming up to chat ect all the time.

been out on my own a few times in melbourne and people just gave me wierd looks..
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Yep there is a difference between having a going out/nightlife culture and a social culture. Melbourne/Australia doesn't really have the latter.

Resistor said:
I've never drunk alcohol. The following weblink describes the choice quite well.
http://elitedaily.com/life/how-the-decision-to-never-drink-has-changed-my-life/

Everyone tries to get me to have a drink and I politely decline every time. Is there anyone else out there that has been in the first and the last situation in that link that have managed to get past these experiences? Dating is non-existent for me. :(
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Never understood that mentality in people. Why are they so invested in whether you drink or not? I've noticed this happens commonly at certain situations and not always drinking. Its as thou people can't stand letting others make their own choices and in turn making their own for better or worse.
 
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drinking culture starts in the teens yes? peer/beer pressure yes?

is the taste of alcohol predetermined? do people automatically enjoy the taste? or is it learned? picture it, teens at a party sinking VBs (or other cheapies).....i firmly believe the taste is not palatable, but the want to fit in, or appear to be "cool" overrides any sense that the shit they're consuming actually tastes like shit

i do however think now there is a more ready acceptance for people who dont drink (although not sure if that's the same for teens).

im not a drinker, but have people in the neighbourhood who are. almost every night. get the sense they struggle to have a good time without it.
 
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Hungover today... hate the moment of terror quickly after waking, trying to remember if I said anything too moronic on my phone/Facebook. One of these days I'll make sure to turn the phone and modem off. Grand Final day definitely. Was sending violent messages to Hawthorn supporters last year :oops:

I get drunk a couple times a month but things have changed since the end of last year. I was overseas by myself on new years eve and got very ****ed with a bunch of strangers. I was so very painfully hungover the next day, the weather was freezing, I vomited on the toilet floor of a fast food restaurant :oops: and spent the rest of the day in bed. The worst hangover ever. But what hurt just as much was the realisation the fun the night before with a bunch of strangers (which was now just flickered memories of conversations and 'learning about each other') was exactly like the drunk fun I have here at home with my social circle and so-called friends. Which isn't to say I don't enjoy getting drunk with them but it occured to me so many of them I never see otherwise. How genuine or meaningful are these friendships if I (and they) are always pissed when we speak to each other?

So since then I've made a deliberate effort to see friends while sober (the very easy way is to meet them during the day) and do things.

And physically being drunk is exhausting. The sweet spot of being drunk but not wrecked is becoming smaller. This might be an inevitable age thing. I'm 26.
 
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peternorth said:
drinking culture starts in the teens yes? peer/beer pressure yes?

is the taste of alcohol predetermined? do people automatically enjoy the taste? or is it learned? picture it, teens at a party sinking VBs (or other cheapies).....i firmly believe the taste is not palatable, but the want to fit in, or appear to be "cool" overrides any sense that the shit they're consuming actually tastes like shit
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After a while you grow to like the taste of beer, but a lot of people tend to appreciate a more savoury palette as they get older, right?

I think talking about the drinking culture here is one of the most boring things ever imaginable and goes nowhere and means nothing but at the crux of it, what else is there to do? You're young and bored, you like the taste, it usually goes well with doing other things, the feeling of inebriation is mostly enjoyable, it goes hand in hand with meeting girls... drinking is good fun. And saying that doesn't make you a yobo or dumb.

In my opinion I don't even think beer is this peer pressure thing. So many blokes now get on the lollywaters or Jim Beams or something and no one really cares. I don't know. I think it's cool if you want to stick to the San Pellegrinos and I wish I could be one of those people. But I don't know, I guess the territory with a big drinking culture is the inevitable discussion around it but there's not much actually genuinely entrancing about the topic. Do whatever, it's cool either way.
 
Allgood Awesome said:
Hungover today... hate the moment of terror quickly after waking, trying to remember if I said anything too moronic on my phone/Facebook. One of these days I'll make sure to turn the phone and modem off. Grand Final day definitely. Was sending violent messages to Hawthorn supporters last year :oops:
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First year uni I was terrible with this, got over it, but sometimes I still have a bad night and regret my texts. Still, a bit of fun, nothing that bad has ever happened except some awkwardness. Whatever. Life's not that serious and important.
 
Gough said:
Who are you and what have you done with the world weary and cynical Silent Alarm?
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I thought realising that was cynical? I mean nothing means anything and that's liberating but it's also kind of cynical??????
 

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I like a drink but I just can't hack multiple seshes in a week. Say I go out Saturday and Tuesday, I'll be behind on sleep and hydration for the rest of the week. I'm at uni 9 hours everyday, but that's the same as any full time job and I know guys with jobs who can back up easily from a night out to be back working the next day and feeling fine. I am not one of those, it sucks having to more or less write off the day after I've been drinking, kinda like today.

I'm also a terrible drunk sleeper, I just always wake up very early feeling tired, but not a sleepy tired; a shit, cranky, can't stop thinking tired.
 
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Roobs321 said:
I do hate the 'teetotaller' term though, especially in regards to those that have experienced drinking. It's especially a rife concept in Australia. "Have a beer with me, mate!!!". It's like if you don't succumb to a drink you can't be trusted.
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