Drop Carrazzo thread

[WeninRome]

Hence why the Razzle has been playing in the back pocket lately?

Yeah he has, but has he been doing this successfully?

I guess we will find out when he gets a really good test against Medhurst or dids this week.

 

[The Coach]

A lot more for someone who has 25+ touches each week and supposedly was one of our inside midfielders. He should be used as a defended and not as a midfielder, if he can't hold down a defensive spot he should be dropped.

He hasn't spent anywhere near the amount of time in defence than the other two you mention, he has played most of his time as a midfielder.

I'm not saying he should be dropped but what i am saying is that he should not play in the midfield or forward of the centre, he add nothing to us in that area.

You have been at different games to me then - he has not been an inside midfielder and even if he was apart from Judd, they don't get more than a quarter of their balls contested. You are going in the book as a Carrot basher or are you going to have a go at everybody else, Judd excepted

ps Dont forget Carrots would rarely be allowed to fly for contested marks

 

[The Coach]

I sure if this was your opening statement, you would get a lot more followers. I think you've just got everyone angry because of 'Drop Carrazzo'.

I mean i've stated it before i would have liked him to be dropped a few weeks ago because he doesn't have a place in our midfield and didn't seem to be able to hold down a defensive spot. I stick by my word that he isn't good enough to play in our midfield but from what i've seen in the past few weeks, he definately has a spot as a small defender and is important to our team.

He should not be dropped as of yet but he definately, in my mind, is much more likely to get dropped now because he doesn't add anything to our team offensively.

Oh no - you weren't the one who was calling for him to be dropped after his 43 possie game were you?

 

[Doza]

What is with these ridiculous drop/trade Carrazzo and Scotland threads? Am I missing something

 

[WeninRome]

Point taken guys.

Still it was worth starting this thread to learn more about different supporters perspectives.

 

[Cruiser23]

Oh no - you weren't the one who was calling for him to be dropped after his 43 possie game were you?

Unfortunately for you i wasn't. If Carrazzo can't hold down a small defenders role where will he play?

 

[WeninRome]

Unfortunately for you i wasn't. If Carrazzo can't hold down a small defenders role where will he play?

We will find out this week when he will take one of the two best going around

 

[Mike_blues]

I don't want Carrazzo to deliver the ball full stop. As a backman he is way too loose.

As long as him and Scotland are in our side we will not play finals.

i dont think so buddy
scotland has been a great player for us and hes only 27ish. has filled walkers role reasonably well and uses the ball fair, but the odd bad disposal hurts
he is easily in our best 22

 

[WeninRome]

i dont think so buddy
scotland has been a great player for us and hes only 27ish. has filled walkers role reasonably well and uses the ball fair, but the odd bad disposal hurts
he is easily in our best 22

Yep I know, game set match, I already gave in.

 

[Mike_blues]

Yep I know, game set match, I already gave in.

fair enough

 

[CarltonSocialClub]

He has the perfect skill set for a back pocket.

He started his career in a great shutdown of an in-form Aaron Davey at Princes Park. That's where he belongs. I don't mind giving him chop-outs in the midfield if the current mix isn't working.

 

[The Coach]

Unfortunately for you i wasn't. If Carrazzo can't hold down a small defenders role where will he play?

That game was 4 weeks ago and you said a few weeks ago - maybe it was the game before and he then came out and proved you wrong
But then again in the Melbourne game 6 weeks ago he had 23 possies and 91% were effective so it could not have been that game

I am stumped - you had better define several for me

Look, I have identified Carrots faults before - it just sh#ts me seeing threads like this after a win

 

[WeninRome]

That game was 4 weeks ago and you said a few weeks ago - maybe it was the game before and he then came out and proved you wrong
But then again in the Melbourne game 6 weeks ago he had 23 possies and 91% were effective so it could not have been that game

I am stumped - you had better define several for me

Look, I have identified Carrots faults before - it just sh#ts me seeing threads like this after a win

I should be the one coping it not cruise, I did start the thread and will take full responsibility five .

 

[mikeythemoocow]

What is with these ridiculous drop/trade Carrazzo and Scotland threads? Am I missing something

If we are to become a real contender these two have to become pretty much fringe players. More so Carrazzo. I would like to see some younger players with more potential being groomed to take both their roles. If thats a Grigg/Ando/Browne then good, start slowly molding them to these roles. That might mean sometimes dropping them but sometimes not. If we were to get any trade value(Picks) out of either at the end of next season we should look very hard at it. Not sure we can afford to trade Scotland just yet but both are replaceable at the end of the day.

 

[one eyed bluey]

If we are to become a real contender these two have to become pretty much fringe players. More so Carrazzo. I would like to see some younger players with more potential being groomed to take both their roles. If thats a Grigg/Ando/Browne then good, start slowly molding them to these roles. That might mean sometimes dropping them but sometimes not. If we were to get any trade value(Picks) out of either at the end of next season we should look very hard at it. Not sure we can afford to trade Scotland just yet but both are replaceable at the end of the day.

Through walker into that equation.

To be honest our defence is pretty much set for the next 5 or so years apart from carrots position, so thats something POISITIVE.
Jamison Thornton
Walker Waite Bower

Im starting to agree if we can get a high pick for carrots i'd take it. Even if we get a trade done to get a genuine CHF/ or another dangerous forward to help fev out i'd take it.

we have armfield/browne/ando/walker who can rotate through the back.

We already have an abundance of small backman coming through...something to ponder

 

[Doza]

we have armfield/browne/ando/walker who can rotate through the back.

haha, I love it, another thread saying don't worry, we have Ando. So funny lol Let's just trade Carrazzo and Scotland, its ok we have Ando!

 

[Mayesy_23]

I know. Everyone is saying get rid of Carrats for 3 youngsters who have impressed but are still unknowns. C'mon people.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

Carrazzo shouldn't be dropped, but we definitely should NOT be playing him that deep in the backline.

Was at the game, and he trailed Grey by 5-10m at most contests, and seemed almost content to do so.

His disposal just hurts too much when he's that close to the opposition goals. Why was he kicking out from full back?!?!?

 

[Cruiser23]

That game was 4 weeks ago and you said a few weeks ago - maybe it was the game before and he then came out and proved you wrong
But then again in the Melbourne game 6 weeks ago he had 23 possies and 91% were effective so it could not have been that game

I am stumped - you had better define several for me

Look, I have identified Carrots faults before - it just sh#ts me seeing threads like this after a win

I'll say it again, i don't want him dropped, so stop making it out like i do. I've just pointed out that i don't think he can play in our midfield anymore. As for the game i thought he should be dropped, it was after the Brisbane game where he was shocking, gave away 4 free kicks, had 5 clangers and was beatenmost of the night. Also the Cats game he made many mistakes, 6 clangers and 4 free kicks against.

By the way, how is a few weeks ago more than 4 weeks? Your first line makes no sense.

 

[WeninRome]

Carrazzo shouldn't be dropped, but we definitely should NOT be playing him that deep in the backline.

Was at the game, and he trailed Grey by 5-10m at most contests, and seemed almost content to do so.

His disposal just hurts too much when he's that close to the opposition goals. Why was he kicking out from full back?!?!?

This is what I noticed too, and why I started the thread.

It's the whole point! He isn't good enough to play in our mid, and may not be clean with skills or accountable enough to play in our backline. So where does he play?

 

[Silvagnis]

Gray isn't quick, but beat Carrazzo to the ball and would have kicked the matchwinner on him if he hadn't hit the post.

That's two goals he would have kicked on Carrazzo.

He needs to lift when he's our reigning Best and Fairest and in our leadership group.

I wouldn't hesitate to bring in the taller, faster and more aggressive Anderson for Carrazzo if Davis plays on him and kicks two to three.

He's had more than enough chances.

Walker, Bannister and even Houlihan(better skills) are due back soon, so he has to step up and beat Davis if he wants to keep his spot.

Browne reminds me of Ratten when he barged through two Port players to set up an inside 50.

Browne shouldn't be dropped.

 

[Silvagnis]

haha, I love it, another thread saying don't worry, we have Ando. So funny lol Let's just trade Carrazzo and Scotland, its ok we have Ando!

Yes please.

We need more draft selections thanks when the next four drafts will be pillaged by the two new teams.

It's called list management and trading players who won't be in your best 22 when you want to be playing in finals in three years time.

Hawthorn and Collingwood did it, yet Carlton supporters want to hang onto players who might not play a part in your future.

When will we learn?

 

[Just Kreuzing]

Yes please.

We need more draft selections thanks when the next four drafts will be pillaged by the two new teams.

It's called list management and trading players who won't be in your best 22 when you want to be playing in finals in three years time.

Hawthorn and Collingwood did it, yet Carlton supporters want to hang onto players who might not play a part in your future.

When will we learn?

That is possibly the most sensible thing i have read for ages.

 

[WeninRome]

Yes please.

We need more draft selections thanks when the next four drafts will be pillaged by the two new teams.

It's called list management and trading players who won't be in your best 22 when you want to be playing in finals in three years time.

Hawthorn and Collingwood did it, yet Carlton supporters want to hang onto players who might not play a part in your future.

When will we learn?

thankyou! Some common sense prevails.

 

[The Coach]

I was one to say drop him a few weeks back and i'm happy to admit it. He was playing more of a midfield role at the time and IMO he can't be appart of our midfield group, he doesn't have the tools to do so.

I think Ratten has figured this out and is now starting to play him in a defensive role that is more worried about the man than the ball, played well last night i might add. He has 79% effectiveness with his possessions but only 5 of his 25 touches are contested which shows that he doesn't have good disposal in a contested position. Also he isn't an in and under player because 5 out of 25 is not good enough to be one but he is hard at the ball and puts in week in week out.

Keep playing him in this defensive role that Ratten seems to be giving him, play him on Davis this week and keep playing him on small forwards. If he starts dropping his defensive duties and start becoming less accountable, he has to be dropped because he has no attacking side to his game what so ever.

I'll say it again, i don't want him dropped, so stop making it out like i do. I've just pointed out that i don't think he can play in our midfield anymore. As for the game i thought he should be dropped, it was after the Brisbane game where he was shocking, gave away 4 free kicks, had 5 clangers and was beatenmost of the night. Also the Cats game he made many mistakes, 6 clangers and 4 free kicks against.

By the way, how is a few weeks ago more than 4 weeks? Your first line makes no sense.

You are not making any sense buddy!
Quote 1 - you said you wanted him dropped

Since then I have been asking when you wanted this - I have subtly been trying to make the point that he has not warranted dropping - you have now made it clear that one week after he got BOG, you wanted to drop him

I suggest you never learnt the meaning of 'few' - check it out, I think you will find it could be any number from 2 - even say 100 depending on the context. Us oldies would never use it for 2 (couple) and mostly used it for 3-5

This is getting ridiculous but not as ridiculous as supporting a DROP A PLAYER thread the day after a good win