Roast Drop Turner they said! Mahony is no good they said!

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Snake_Baker

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hes always done whatever the coach has asked of him. 3 coaches in a row love Kayne Turner - that says more to me than a bunch of BF posters

Hmmmmmm..............they have also put Atley's name in the side every week.

A lot of folks are myopic when it comes to the defensive stuff.

They seem to think you need 2 x key defenders and 20 x Eddie Betts's to make a quality football side.
 

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Yes. In fact we still don't really have a small forward, but I don't think it's a surprise that since Mahony has been in the side, Kayne has been freed up a bit more.
True, but the fact Mahony has not set the world on fire and has taken his spot indicates that criticsim of Turner in the role he played was valid.
 

Themanbun

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True, but the fact Mahony has not set the world on fire and has taken his spot indicates that criticsim of Turner in the role he played was valid.
Or that Mahony more naturally plays a mid-fwd pressure role and Kayne has more versatility to push into the backline and midfield at this stage?

No one is saying that Kayne was a superstar as a small forward. But he was doing a job for the team, one that wasn't quite natural to him. It's not his, or Mahoney's fault that the list managers haven't put a decent small forward on the list.

Turner was an inside midfielder and tagger as a junior and was thrown forward due to being small and us having no one else. Few others aside from Boomer had the versatility to play the small forward role that Turner was thanklessly doing for years, and copping flak from all and sundry on the internet for.
 

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Or that Mahony more naturally plays a mid-fwd pressure role and Kayne has more versatility to push into the backline and midfield at this stage?

No one is saying that Kayne was a superstar as a small forward. But he was doing a job for the team, one that wasn't quite natural to him. It's not his, or Mahoney's fault that the list managers haven't put a decent small forward on the list.
Yep he's doing his job at the moment.
 

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I'll happily be the first to admit that turner has turned it around but let's not pretend he hadn't been stinking it up as a forward ever since his 2nd year. Averaging around 0.6 goals a game and less than 12 possessions. Sure he was a defensive forward and that's often a thankless task but he was basically running around like headless chook. He was a shadow of the hard hitting physical stick insect that was bowling over players left and right in his first year (probablybecause he was told to settle it down after concussing himself twice in quick succession). If he had any competition he would have been VFL'd for an extended period.

If anything those that have been critical of Kayne were frustrated because they felt he would be better suited as a defender. For years we've been getting torched when playing against teams that have a fleet of smalls. Marley would shut down 1 but the other 2 would run riot on Jmac and Wright. Blind freddie knew we needed another close checking small as more and more teams opted for this approach.

Most of the same people that are high and mighty now were the same ones throwing Kayne under a bus when ablett kicked 3 on him - which from a statistical point of view sounds bad but if you rewatched his game you'd have seen how unlucky he was and could hold his head up high. Most wrote him off as a defender saying he was slow and used the ball poorly so therefore wouldn't be suited to the role.

Tldr: great news but a few games doesn't undo a poor-average handful of seasons - so put your dicks in your pants when saying you were always right. Hopefully only up from here.
 

Joshen

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This roast is better aimed at the previous coaching staff.

For a number of years, there have been plenty on here advocating for him to play a more defensive role.

Even his staunchest critics acknowledge his defensive attributes. No surprise to see him flourishing when they are the bulk of the job description.
 

KiwiRoo

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Hmmmmmm..............they have also put Atley's name in the side every week.

A lot of folks are myopic when it comes to the defensive stuff.

They seem to think you need 2 x key defenders and 20 x Eddie Betts's to make a quality football side.
yep
How good would one (young) Eddie Betts be right now. Got most of the bases starting to get covered, but a quality goal sneak small fwd we don't have
 

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