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Not just at the moment, there's been a concerning number of drug deaths, overdoses and hospitalisations at many events in Sydney over the last couple years. It's very concerning.

Worst thing is being at one of these events and seeing paramedics trying to make their way through the crowd with a stretcher.
Any thoughts as to why it seems to be Sydney specific more so than Melbourne, Brisbane or Perth? Simply more events, a different mentality to drug use?

Any yeah it's absolutely heartbreaking when you see paramedics or an ambulance making there way around an event.
 

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Any thoughts as to why it seems to be Sydney specific more so than Melbourne, Brisbane or Perth? Simply more events, a different mentality to drug use?

Any yeah it's absolutely heartbreaking when you see paramedics or an ambulance making there way around an event.
If I was to say, I'd say a whole mixture of factors tbh. Sydney holds massive 8,000 person events like that and people tend to get into the mentality to go overboard. I never really hear much about bad batches, but it's hard not to think there aren't a few going around with the number of hospitalisations and first aid visits. And we'll never know to the extent of drug quality without pill testing facilities.
 

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Not just at the moment, there's been a concerning number of drug deaths, overdoses and hospitalisations at many events in Sydney over the last couple years. It's very concerning.

Worst thing is being at one of these events and seeing paramedics trying to make their way through the crowd with a stretcher.
Always gonna be deaths while it is illegal...until people have access to pure MDMA they are going to take shit made in back yards containing impurities that kill.

And guess what.... kids are always going to take drugs so old people need to get the fu** over it and focus on harm minimization.. which is education on how to take substances safely, dosages, frequencies etc and testing.

But that would require funding to go into research and education instead the ´LOL war´
 

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legalisation is never gona happen in australia the worlds biggest nanny state.
I think it will happen once dinosaurs and religious nutbags are no longer frequently ending up running our government. They don't care what Australians think on a number of issues including drugs.

Problem is we continue to end up with a lot of politicians who seem to lack proper life experiences and it clearly impacts on their opinion of drugs like marijuana, MDMA etc. You can just tell a fair few of them never smoked a joint as a youngster or popped a pill at some rave. You only have to look at some of the ridiculous comments they make about these drugs.

None of these politicians actually give drugs any proper thought. I highly doubt any of them have ever done any actual research. They are brainwashed from a young age into believing what they want to believe and that's basically it. They are embarrassingly ignorant.

You only have to look at the stupidity from the NSW Premier the other day when quizzed about pill testing in the wake of what happened in Sydney. Her response? I don't think it will save lives, it doesn't take into account the size of a person and what's safe for them might not be safe for another. How can one person actually believe that bullshit? Then again this is the same moron that said there's no such thing as a safe drug. If a young bloke buys what he thinks is MDMA, takes it to a pill testing station and it is found to have a harmful substance in it rather than MDMA that bloke isn't going to take that. Can it get any more ******* obvious? Clearly she has no ******* idea what MDMA actually is either because unless you're eating bags of MDMA capsules you are not going to die from an overdose.

People aren't dying from taking too much MDMA. Somehow politicians continue to miss this time and time again or they don't want to hear it. It's the shit campaigner drug manufacturers that are putting PMA and god knows what else in some of these pills. These politicians by continually dismissing pill testing like it's a giant waste of time have blood on their hands. Would love to see how they'd react if it was their kid going to a festival and not coming home all because they took one tiny pill for a fun time, only for it to be PMA and kill them.

Unfortunately when it comes to weed too many politicians and older Australians have been brainwashed. Unlike in America where they've always known more about it and a lot of their politicians smoked back in college or in the 60s/70s. I'm not saying weed is harmless. But in the media and in school there is a lot of rubbish being said.

It baffles me really. We allow people to drink alcohol to their hearts content. As a result we've got violent drunks, alcoholics who treat their families like shit and countless amounts of damage to the public. But anyone wanting to chill out with a joint or enjoy music at a festival with a pill is quickly lumped in by the anti-drug crowd as comparable to an ice, heroin or coke addict.
 

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Always gonna be deaths while it is illegal...until people have access to pure MDMA they are going to take shit made in back yards containing impurities that kill.

And guess what.... kids are always going to take drugs so old people need to get the **** over it and focus on harm minimization.. which is education on how to take substances safely, dosages, frequencies etc and testing.

But that would require funding to go into research and education instead the ´LOL war´
Agree.
When I heard this story I thought, damn better switch on 3AW , quick!
Just as I thought.
Middle aged - old people with the heads firmly planted in their arses.
Just ridiculous.
One bloke actually said they are better of left to die rather than testing taking place.
******* old campaigners, fu** off and die.
No idea of the modern world.
 

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I think it will happen once dinosaurs and religious nutbags are no longer frequently ending up running our government. They don't care what Australians think on a number of issues including drugs.

Problem is we continue to end up with a lot of politicians who seem to lack proper life experiences and it clearly impacts on their opinion of drugs like marijuana, MDMA etc. You can just tell a fair few of them never smoked a joint as a youngster or popped a pill at some rave. You only have to look at some of the ridiculous comments they make about these drugs.

None of these politicians actually give drugs any proper thought. I highly doubt any of them have ever done any actual research. They are brainwashed from a young age into believing what they want to believe and that's basically it. They are embarrassingly ignorant.

You only have to look at the stupidity from the NSW Premier the other day when quizzed about pill testing in the wake of what happened in Sydney. Her response? I don't think it will save lives, it doesn't take into account the size of a person and what's safe for them might not be safe for another. How can one person actually believe that bullshit? Then again this is the same moron that said there's no such thing as a safe drug. If a young bloke buys what he thinks is MDMA, takes it to a pill testing station and it is found to have a harmful substance in it rather than MDMA that bloke isn't going to take that. Can it get any more ******* obvious? Clearly she has no ******* idea what MDMA actually is either because unless you're eating bags of MDMA capsules you are not going to die from an overdose.

People aren't dying from taking too much MDMA. Somehow politicians continue to miss this time and time again or they don't want to hear it. It's the shit campaigner drug manufacturers that are putting PMA and god knows what else in some of these pills. These politicians by continually dismissing pill testing like it's a giant waste of time have blood on their hands. Would love to see how they'd react if it was their kid going to a festival and not coming home all because they took one tiny pill for a fun time, only for it to be PMA and kill them.

Unfortunately when it comes to weed too many politicians and older Australians have been brainwashed. Unlike in America where they've always known more about it and a lot of their politicians smoked back in college or in the 60s/70s. I'm not saying weed is harmless. But in the media and in school there is a lot of rubbish being said.

It baffles me really. We allow people to drink alcohol to their hearts content. As a result we've got violent drunks, alcoholics who treat their families like shit and countless amounts of damage to the public. But anyone wanting to chill out with a joint or enjoy music at a festival with a pill is quickly lumped in by the anti-drug crowd as comparable to an ice, heroin or coke addict.
Your reading my mind.
Politicians have laughable attitudes to Marijuana that were out of date by the 1950's.
You cant tell them though, they are right so fu** you, and me, and everyone else.
 

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I think it will happen once dinosaurs and religious nutbags are no longer frequently ending up running our government. They don't care what Australians think on a number of issues including drugs.

Problem is we continue to end up with a lot of politicians who seem to lack proper life experiences and it clearly impacts on their opinion of drugs like marijuana, MDMA etc. You can just tell a fair few of them never smoked a joint as a youngster or popped a pill at some rave. You only have to look at some of the ridiculous comments they make about these drugs.

None of these politicians actually give drugs any proper thought. I highly doubt any of them have ever done any actual research. They are brainwashed from a young age into believing what they want to believe and that's basically it. They are embarrassingly ignorant.

You only have to look at the stupidity from the NSW Premier the other day when quizzed about pill testing in the wake of what happened in Sydney. Her response? I don't think it will save lives, it doesn't take into account the size of a person and what's safe for them might not be safe for another. How can one person actually believe that bullshit? Then again this is the same moron that said there's no such thing as a safe drug. If a young bloke buys what he thinks is MDMA, takes it to a pill testing station and it is found to have a harmful substance in it rather than MDMA that bloke isn't going to take that. Can it get any more ******* obvious? Clearly she has no ******* idea what MDMA actually is either because unless you're eating bags of MDMA capsules you are not going to die from an overdose.

People aren't dying from taking too much MDMA. Somehow politicians continue to miss this time and time again or they don't want to hear it. It's the shit campaigner drug manufacturers that are putting PMA and god knows what else in some of these pills. These politicians by continually dismissing pill testing like it's a giant waste of time have blood on their hands. Would love to see how they'd react if it was their kid going to a festival and not coming home all because they took one tiny pill for a fun time, only for it to be PMA and kill them.

Unfortunately when it comes to weed too many politicians and older Australians have been brainwashed. Unlike in America where they've always known more about it and a lot of their politicians smoked back in college or in the 60s/70s. I'm not saying weed is harmless. But in the media and in school there is a lot of rubbish being said.

It baffles me really. We allow people to drink alcohol to their hearts content. As a result we've got violent drunks, alcoholics who treat their families like shit and countless amounts of damage to the public. But anyone wanting to chill out with a joint or enjoy music at a festival with a pill is quickly lumped in by the anti-drug crowd as comparable to an ice, heroin or coke addict.
Well said.

I love reading comments from the ignorant old farts who have no clue and think that MDMA is killing all the kids.

Completely brainwashed by the media.
 

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Nothing will change here, because the crusty old politicians will be replaced by more crusty old politicians.
And the young party animals with liberal ideas about drugs will soon grow up and have a family, move on from the drug scene and then try to convince their own kids not to use drugs.
Rinse and repeat.
 

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Why professionals are taking psychedelic drugs in the workplace

"Jeff is a mason jar filled with deionised water and a few drops of LSD," Dr Prash says. "It sits in a cupboard at the far corner of the office, covered in what appears to be a specially knitted tea-cosy with a silver tap peeking out of the bottom."

The cover is to preserve the LSD by keeping it in the dark. Next to the mason jar is a shot glass, and every three days the five team members who are on a microdosing schedule forgo their morning coffee and start the day with LSD.

Microdosing psychedelics – ingesting tiny amounts of psilocybin, LSD, other psychedelics and, less commonly, ayahuasca and ibogaine – supposedly improves innovative thinking and creative problem solving without hallucinations.



Full article: https://outline.com/nn54cA
 

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I think people should be locked up in jail for eating a mushroom.
I can't tell if you are serious or not - but if serious you've obviously never had them because you wouldn't say that if you knew anything about them

It's also pretty much impossible to get 'hooked' on them
 

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I can't tell if you are serious or not - but if serious you've obviously never had them because you wouldn't say that if you knew anything about them

It's also pretty much impossible to get 'hooked' on them
You mean there are people who are ignorant on the topic of drugs? No way!??
 

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Reading a few of these posts I was initially thinking yeah right legalise drugs. Pot I agree, but other stuff no. Almost immediately I thought you guys are right. You will never stop drug use, and the illegal shit is filled with fake crap that fu**s people up even more. And you are right once more in that all these old campaigners, and old campaigners politicians wont legalise it yet 70 percent of the stupid fu**s have used drugs in their life time, and right now most have people that they know close to them that are addicted to them.

Need to take their head out of their fu**en ass.
 

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Find the pill testing legalisation topic pretty interesting.

People are and will continue dropping in the current system so its a real active issue.

Can understand the doubts though, I could understand people feeling more inclined to take them if its not a bad pill.
That also doesn't seem to stop the anxiety/mental issues that come with them.

Just imagine getting them tested at a festival walking out of the tent and there's just police roaming around looking at you lol.

Festivals seem like the only real place it would have a significant impact at too.
 

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You've got a lot of drug users who would say they would never touch meth. Yet, you might be surprised to know how many pills might contain meth.



 

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Find the pill testing legalisation topic pretty interesting.

People are and will continue dropping in the current system so its a real active issue.

Can understand the doubts though, I could understand people feeling more inclined to take them if its not a bad pill.
That also doesn't seem to stop the anxiety/mental issues that come with them.

Just imagine getting them tested at a festival walking out of the tent and there's just police roaming around looking at you lol.

Festivals seem like the only real place it would have a significant impact at too.
From what I've seen, people aren't being turned off by the dangers. The ones who are against drugs like MDMA completely just are. No different to people who are completely against smoking pot. Have a hard time believing there's going to be an increase in people taking them just because they can test them at festivals. There's already plenty of ignorant users thinking they're always getting MDMA in their pills, when we know it's not the case. They haven't been turned off by that or they simply haven't had it explained to them.
 

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Genuinely think the first time I did MD it rebalanced the chemicals in my brain. Have done it a few times here and there and it's amazing, just think it's important not to abuse (just like anything). Had a shocking experience with choof, the famous saying grass and beer you're in the clear, beer and grass you're on your ass, rings too true. Ket is interesting and i'd love to try it a few more times, first time was a mixture of ket and MD. Done coke a few times and it's nothing to special, I just get incredibly confident and lose my filter.
 

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Been a lot of debate recently, probably around the push for Pill testing and the usual spate of summer festival overdoses

MDMA and empathy - https://theconversation.com/ecstasy-users-are-more-empathetic-than-those-who-take-other-drugs-even-when-not-on-it-111409
Microdosing and mood - https://theconversation.com/does-microdosing-improve-your-mood-and-performance-heres-what-the-research-says-106850

How fun should be part of the debate - https://theconversation.com/in-debates-about-drug-use-fun-is-important-110696

There is so much we don't know about benefits and pitfalls with so many drugs because the studies cannot be done in a controlled manner
 

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