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SSwans2011

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Hot tip for any kava drinkers on here:

Do 2-3 washes with a couple of table spoons of kava (or however strong you like) and steep some damiana and a few tea bags in roughly 1.25 litres of boiling water. Combine the two in a pitcher and put it in the fridge for a few hours.

Not only will the damiana and tea entirely mask the kava taste and actually make it quite pleasant to drink, the damiana seems to amplify some of the effects for me (especially with respect to sleeping well).
 

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Deni

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A legal drug question.
What is better than Panadeine Forte for chronic pain, anything over the counter?
I take two of them, two Osteo, and two Brufen 3 to 4 times a day, they are not too bad, but I need stronger..

The last time I was in hospital. around 2016, I was given Endone for pain, just one every four hours, I think they were 5mg.
Then one day a nurse came in and gave me two endone pills, as far as I can remember I thought nurses had to be in two to give you
those kinds of drugs?
Anyway those pills put me into a state of unconsciousness and I woke up in I.C.U. 12 hours later and was told i'd
been accidentally overdosed, i'm kicking myself that I didn't take it further.
 

Angus Young

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The last time I was in hospital. around 2016, I was given Endone for pain, just one every four hours, I think they were 5mg.
Then one day a nurse came in and gave me two endone pills, as far as I can remember I thought nurses had to be in two to give you
those kinds of drugs?
Anyway those pills put me into a state of unconsciousness and I woke up in I.C.U. 12 hours later and was told i'd
been accidentally overdosed, i'm kicking myself that I didn't take it further.
Yeah and my old man was in hospital dying with stage 4 cancer and in pure agony with a few weeks to live yelping in pain and the nurses came in two at a time and would only give him 1 f*n endone because they were too scared to give him anything else to cover themselves because of people that want to sue every campaigner for every little thing.

He should of been given high doses of endone short acting and long acing, fentanyl and morphine. Instead he suffered like a dog because they were worried about covering their arses, liability etc etc.. that's what it has come to in this day and age.

How the fu** do you overdose on 2 endone anyway...
 

Deni

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Yeah and my old man was in hospital dying with stage 4 cancer and in pure agony with a few weeks to live yelping in pain and the nurses came in two at a time and would only give him 1 f*n endone because they were too scared to give him anything else to cover themselves because of people that want to sue every campaigner for every little thing.

He should of been given high doses of endone short acting and long acing, fentanyl and morphine. Instead he suffered like a dog because they were worried about covering their arses, liability etc etc.. that's what it has come to in this day and age.

How the fu** do you overdose on 2 endone anyway...
I feel for your dad, of course more should have been done but that isn't my fault.
I don't know how I overdosed on the stuff, my partner takes 1200mg Serequel every night, I take a 50mg and i'm s*** faced...
Different bodies tolerate different things!!
 

Kurve

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A legal drug question.
What is better than Panadeine Forte for chronic pain, anything over the counter?
I take two of them, two Osteo, and two Brufen 3 to 4 times a day, they are not too bad, but I need stronger..
I don't think there is stronger, especially since they banned anything with codeine over the counter. That was real annoying, went too far imo.

If you take a lot of ibuprofen, be careful you don't end up with reflux. I stopped taking codeine after a bad accident and it went on script, then started on a mix of panadol/ibuprofen which worked really well but ended up with an ulcer.

Now I smoke a (medicinal) joint every now and then, that helps.
 
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metic

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A legal drug question.
What is better than Panadeine Forte for chronic pain, anything over the counter?
I take two of them, two Osteo, and two Brufen 3 to 4 times a day, they are not too bad, but I need stronger..

The last time I was in hospital. around 2016, I was given Endone for pain, just one every four hours, I think they were 5mg.
Then one day a nurse came in and gave me two endone pills, as far as I can remember I thought nurses had to be in two to give you
those kinds of drugs?
Anyway those pills put me into a state of unconsciousness and I woke up in I.C.U. 12 hours later and was told i'd
been accidentally overdosed, i'm kicking myself that I didn't take it further.
The miracle plant from south east Asia is far better for pain relief. (Known as ketum - mytragina speciosa.)
I've mentioned it on this or another thread a few times. If you really are interested send me a message for more info. Opiates are an absolute joke because the govt, doctors & gimps controlling the stuff, drip feeding you not to mention the powerful physical addiction it has.
Say goodbye to all of that sh*t and free yourself with by far the best product available for pain, anxiety, getting sober...
 

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Deni

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If you take a lot of ibuprofen, be careful you don't end up with reflux. I stopped taking codeine after a bad accident and it went on script, then started on a mix of panadol/ibuprofen which worked really well but ended up with an ulcer.
Ivé been taking Brufen for near on 20 years, it doesn't give me a sore tummy or anything really, i'm all good with it...Naproxen on the other hand was shocking, it made me throw up from reflux..

It does suck about the panadeine forte being on script but my doctor gives me 120 a script, although before you could get repeats, now you can't. My partner gets 240 panadeine forte, and the lucky bugger gets valium every two weeks!!
 

chunkylover53

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Genuinely shocked how popular nose beers are.
It's a joke isn't it? You know this country is taking the piss when 8/10 people at a bar in Richmond are lining up for the toilets to snort something they paid $300 for. Not to mention the product is usually tripe and gives you nothing but a rising heart rate, a touch of anxiety and will be lucky to last you the evening.

I don't earn bad money but I've never been in a position to convince myself I can afford to drop $300-$350 on a bag, no idea how everyone affords it; even apprentices and sh*t get on it.
 

tangolikelama

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It's a joke isn't it? You know this country is taking the piss when 8/10 people at a bar in Richmond are lining up for the toilets to snort something they paid $300 for. Not to mention the product is usually tripe and gives you nothing but a rising heart rate, a touch of anxiety and will be lucky to last you the evening.

I don't earn bad money but I've never been in a position to convince myself I can afford to drop $300-$350 on a bag, no idea how everyone affords it; even apprentices and sh*t get on it.
I was at a venue the other week and there was a bloody line to do lines on a Sunday arvo! I'll dabble if offered but never had the temptation to buy a bag either.
 

ash_1050

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It's a joke isn't it? You know this country is taking the piss when 8/10 people at a bar in Richmond are lining up for the toilets to snort something they paid $300 for. Not to mention the product is usually tripe and gives you nothing but a rising heart rate, a touch of anxiety and will be lucky to last you the evening.

I don't earn bad money but I've never been in a position to convince myself I can afford to drop $300-$350 on a bag, no idea how everyone affords it; even apprentices and sh*t get on it.
Unless you're a degenerate, or Shane Mumford, you're usually split a gram between 3-5 people, which makes it $60-$100 per head for the night, on par for what people would probably be spending on drinks anyway. If you were planning on having a big night you'd offset the cost by having a couple of caps instead, as it's a hell of a lot more cost effective than doing a gram by yourself.
 

chunkylover53

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Unless you're a degenerate, or Shane Mumford, you're usually split a gram between 3-5 people, which makes it $60-$100 per head for the night, on par for what people would probably be spending on drinks anyway. If you were planning on having a big night you'd offset the cost by having a couple of caps instead, as it's a hell of a lot more cost effective than doing a gram by yourself.
I can't remember the last time anyone I knew split a bag between 3-5 people. That's like 1-2 lines each for a total of a 1 hour high. That's equally, if not more wasteful than buying a full bag for yourself.

Coke makes you drink more, can't remember the last time I saw someone doing bags and not having a big sesh on the drink as well.

Well yeah I never understood why you'd do Coke over caps - $25 you cook away for a couple of hours, super social, if you don't get carried away you can pull up ok too. As I'm a bit older now though I struggle with the comedown.
 

Macca19

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A legal drug question.
What is better than Panadeine Forte for chronic pain, anything over the counter?
I take two of them, two Osteo, and two Brufen 3 to 4 times a day, they are not too bad, but I need stronger..

The last time I was in hospital. around 2016, I was given Endone for pain, just one every four hours, I think they were 5mg.
Then one day a nurse came in and gave me two endone pills, as far as I can remember I thought nurses had to be in two to give you
those kinds of drugs?
Anyway those pills put me into a state of unconsciousness and I woke up in I.C.U. 12 hours later and was told i'd
been accidentally overdosed, i'm kicking myself that I didn't take it further.
Tramadol, but you need a script
 

ash_1050

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I can't remember the last time anyone I knew split a bag between 3-5 people. That's like 1-2 lines each for a total of a 1 hour high. That's equally, if not more wasteful than buying a full bag for yourself.

Coke makes you drink more, can't remember the last time I saw someone doing bags and not having a big sesh on the drink as well.

Well yeah I never understood why you'd do Coke over caps - $25 you cook away for a couple of hours, super social, if you don't get carried away you can pull up ok too. As I'm a bit older now though I struggle with the comedown.
We have different groups of mates it seems, mine would typically go through 1-2 bags as a social lubricant along with drinks rather than pounding through it like it's going out of fashion.

Coke is great for socialising, MD is great for dancing and being up and about. The comedown is a b*tch though, found the same after I turned 30 to the point where I'd generally only do it on a friday night as it took a couple of days to get the sleep patters and serotonin back in shape. Officially retired from recreational substances back in September which has made a huge change to my overall balance and homeostasis.
 

Jason mp

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Starting right at the top of the food chain there. DMT is just on another level
Yer I did a bit of research before trying it at 55 years of age, I'll give it another go one day if I find another reputable supplier.. not something you would readily find in the circles of friends I hang with though.
 

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