Dunstall or Dermie

[Piggy2008]

Dunstall over Dermie
i wish i was around when Dunstall was playing footy, hes the greatest ever but i was born 10 years after he finished so i have to watch his matches off youtube and there really hard to find,, but Dunstall every day, i know everything about him, got the ton so many times and kicked 17 once, the whole team can hardly get 17 these days, Dunstalls my favourite player anyway, i have the same football boots, tucked in gurnesy and same playing style as him, i watch his highlights every week before my football game and kick heaps of goals, lots of people say Dermie becuse he was more in the game, but its Dunstall who would play consistently over his whole carrer while Dermie was finished by 92 then went to sydney and collingwood while Dunstall knocked back a 2 million dollar deal from Brissy in 93, i went to Queensland for my birthday a month ago and i so badly wanted to go to Coorparoo, where Piggy was from, Hes the reason i started barracking for the Hawks because my whole family are Geelong, Carlton or Collingwood, Dunstall would be the one who would win you a flag,

 

[Belnakor]

is this even a question? Obviously Dunstall. Post playing days too obviously.

 

[Jane Doe]

Dunstall over Dermie
i wish i was around when Dunstall was playing footy, hes the greatest ever but i was born 10 years after he finished so i have to watch his matches off youtube and there really hard to find,, but Dunstall every day, i know everything about him, got the ton so many times and kicked 17 once, the whole team can hardly get 17 these days, Dunstalls my favourite player anyway, i have the same football boots, tucked in gurnesy and same playing style as him, i watch his highlights every week before my football game and kick heaps of goals, lots of people say Dermie becuse he was more in the game, but its Dunstall who would play consistently over his whole carrer while Dermie was finished by 92 then went to sydney and collingwood while Dunstall knocked back a 2 million dollar deal from Brissy in 93, i went to Queensland for my birthday a month ago and i so badly wanted to go to Coorparoo, where Piggy was from, Hes the reason i started barracking for the Hawks because my whole family are Geelong, Carlton or Collingwood, Dunstall would be the one who would win you a flag,

Dermie was a crash n bash player at centre half forward who’s body was cooked by the early 90s. Eventually forced out when the club was struggling financially at the end of 93. Saying all that Dunstall was the better player

 

[NetworkNerd]

Thread should prob go to the Hawthorn board before the Geelong horde find their way in here

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

Thread should prob go to the Hawthorn board before the Geelong horde find their way in here

Why, nothing wrong with either of them as a player. Brereton in the media is a flog, Bunghole is awesome.

 

[Piggy2008]

Thread should prob go to the Hawthorn board before the Geelong horde find their way in here

yes how do i put it in there

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Dunstall over Dermie
i wish i was around when Dunstall was playing footy, hes the greatest ever but i was born 10 years after he finished so i have to watch his matches off youtube and there really hard to find,, but Dunstall every day, i know everything about him, got the ton so many times and kicked 17 once, the whole team can hardly get 17 these days, Dunstalls my favourite player anyway, i have the same football boots, tucked in gurnesy and same playing style as him, i watch his highlights every week before my football game and kick heaps of goals, lots of people say Dermie becuse he was more in the game, but its Dunstall who would play consistently over his whole carrer while Dermie was finished by 92 then went to sydney and collingwood while Dunstall knocked back a 2 million dollar deal from Brissy in 93, i went to Queensland for my birthday a month ago and i so badly wanted to go to Coorparoo, where Piggy was from, Hes the reason i started barracking for the Hawks because my whole family are Geelong, Carlton or Collingwood, Dunstall would be the one who would win you a flag,

I would go Brereton myself - i know the end wasnt flash at Syd/Coll - but he did have that hip problem - and i dont reckon he had his heart in it with those 2 teams - hed already climbed the mountain etc

You only have to watch the 91 GF - to appreciate how good Brereton was and how important he was to Haw

That could be Dermies best ever game for Haw - he absolutely destroyed Ashley McIntosh- kicked 4-5 goals and his o/head marking was a highlight

Im pretty sure 2 weeks earlier in the 2nd semi against Geel - he was out injured or suspended -and Hawks just got over the line in that game

If i was rating Haw key position players of that era id go

(1) Brereton

(2) Equal 2nd Dunstall and Mew ( who was very rarely beaten - and i reckon just a little bit better than Langford )

(3) Langford

 

[BF Tiger]

Has to be Dunstall. Dermie's best against Richmond was "only" 11 goals.

 

[Walshawk]

Derm lacked consistency after 85. He would hardly get a touch half the time, but could easily lift for big games or when Dunstall was not playing (e.g. 11 goals at FF with broken ribs).
Dunstall was the opposite. Consistently brilliant. Every week.
Derm’a best was as good, but I would say Dunstall played 250 A grade games and Derm maybe 100.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

If this thread was about commentary.
Dunstall hands down.

 

[The 747]

Dunstall by a long way. Derm was a great player but not at the same level.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Saw both of their careers from start to finish. I'll take Brereton.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

I always thought Dunstall was relatively overrated somewhat.

You know, good player in a freak team alongside other forwards doing thr heavy lifting, and getting silver service from the John Platten's and Darren Jarmen's of the world.

But then he went bald, got fat and played in a s**t team and was on one leg - and he still kicked 10 every second week!!

Freak.

 

[MF]

Thread should prob go to the Hawthorn board before the Geelong horde find their way in here

There's still a hawthorn board?

 

[Gavin Excell]

Wonder if Brereton has any regret not being a 1 club player

 

[Piggy2008]

Wonder if Brereton has any regret not being a 1 club player

maybe, he wasnt that good at his 2nd and 3rd club

 

[BF Tiger]

Wonder if Brereton has any regret not being a 1 club player

Just a journeyman footballer really.

 

[juss]

Dunstall for me before and after footy.

Intelligent guy who adds to the football media and commentary, as a player I feel like he's in a clear echelon above Brereton.

 

[Sky]

Just a journeyman footballer really.

Except most journeyman are s**t. Dermie is only a s**t commentator and that’s because he doesn’t have a sizeable vocabulary to get a point across. Don’t know how a guy who opts for saying as many words as possible has a job as a commentator.

 

[kranky al]

brereton legacy soured by his commentary

 

[SportsCentre]

Dunstall without the knee reco in 1996/97 and broken collarbone in 1998 ever happening would have passed Lockett in career goals.

If reigning premier Hawthorn had of not been knocked out of the 1992 finals in Week 1, Dunstall would have also surpassed Pratt and Hudson's record of 150 goals in a season, Dunstall finished with 145.

In his last year, Dunstall kicked 54.18 from 13 games, an accuracy of 75%.

He and Lockett are two of the most structured shots for goal I've seen in my lifetime.

 

[BF Tiger]

Dunstall without the knee reco in 1996/97 and broken collarbone in 1998 ever happening would have passed Lockett in career goals.

If reigning premier Hawthorn had of not been knocked out of the 1992 finals in Week 1, Dunstall would have also surpassed Pratt and Hudson's record of 150 goals in a season, Dunstall finished with 145.

In his last year, Dunstall kicked 54.18 from 13 games, an accuracy of 75%.

He and Lockett are two of the most structured shots for goal I've seen in my lifetime.

Lockett missed a few games over his career too. Played 30 or so games in three years in his middle St Kilda years and then finished with 20 in his final two St Kilda years.

IMHO, ideally one would’ve broken the record and then the other would’ve broken that record.

 

[DavyRed]

Dunstall without the knee reco in 1996/97 and broken collarbone in 1998 ever happening would have passed Lockett in career goals.

If reigning premier Hawthorn had of not been knocked out of the 1992 finals in Week 1, Dunstall would have also surpassed Pratt and Hudson's record of 150 goals in a season, Dunstall finished with 145.

In his last year, Dunstall kicked 54.18 from 13 games, an accuracy of 75%.

He and Lockett are two of the most structured shots for goal I've seen in my lifetime.

What? Why is it only Dunstall’s missed games that are relevant? Lockett missed plenty as well.

Dunstall played 269 games in a generally much stronger team and averaged 4.7 goals a game. Lockett played 281 games (so only 12 more) and averaged 4.8 goals a game.

Anyway, this is about Dunstall and Dermie, not Dunstall and Lockett - there’s another thread about that somewhere.

 

[SportsCentre]

Lockett missed a few games over his career too. Played 30 or so games in three years in his middle St Kilda years and then finished with 20 in his final two St Kilda years.

IMHO, ideally one would’ve broken the record and then the other would’ve broken that record.

What? Why is it only Dunstall’s missed games that are relevant? Lockett missed plenty as well.

Dunstall played 269 games in a generally much stronger team and averaged 4.7 goals a game. Lockett played 281 games (so only 12 more) and averaged 4.8 goals a game.

Anyway, this is about Dunstall and Dermie, not Dunstall and Lockett - there’s another thread about that somewhere.

That Dunstall would have caught Lockett's tally without latter career injury, but that the two of them would have finished a clear 1st and 2nd was my poorly constructed point.

 

[sprockets]

Dunstall was a machine and very enjoyable to watch. No hysterics, no complaining, just did the job week in week out for his whole career. TBH I'm surprised he's so outspoken and lively (even extroverted?) on tv because he wasn't like that as a player at all.