only one of them could jump and take a pack mark.
i go with that one.
i go with that one.
Dunstall or Dermie
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nice they were decent players, not as good as Piggy though
Dunstall is behind all of Lockett, Ablett, Carey.
there were genuine freaks of the game.
dunstall was just a man. Who could not take a pack mark. He would be no champion in the modern game given how flooded defences are.
probably just another Tom hawkins.
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just because Piggy would kick heaps against your team
woukdnt that fact make me rate him better then he actually was?
Impossible to defend against because of how he played. He would be nearly at 100 goals by now because the kicking from the midfield would find him every time.
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thats true
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thats why Geelong supporters dont like Piggy because he would kick 10 every time Hawks played Geelong
Better together.
I like Piggy. I just don’t rate him as good as the others. but I probably still overrate him cos he played better against Geelong then he did against other teams. If I followed another team he didn’t do as well against i would probably rate him even less.
best key fowards I have seen In order.
ablett
lockett
carey
franklin
dunstall
modra
n. Riewoldt.
brereton
i have 3 hawks in that list. but none make thé top 3.
Ablett and Lockett never won any premierships. Unfortunately that counts. If Buckley had won a few premierships I would regard him to be the best ever. Carey and Dunstall are neck and neck for mine but Dunstall just edges him out.
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You’re very lucky to have had two greats of the game play for Hawthorn, especially during the same time. Not a bad two to have to pick from either.
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never got to watch any of there careers live
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why is this in the polls board
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Buddy is above those two, and you would’ve watched him. His greatness won’t be recognised until after he retires. I grew up with Saverio Rocca as my favourite player, loved watching those types play.
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he left hawks when i was 5 and i dont watch any sydney matches unless there against hawthorn, so dont see much of buddy + buddy has barely played in last 3 seasons, i still think Dunstall over all players in history
Yep got to agree.
For a FF at the time, he shared the ball around a hell of a lot bringing others into the game. He wasn't the standard "goal hungry" selfish FF model of his time. I often wonder how many goals he may have kicked had he had a selfish mindset...
Also, I completely agree with his media personality. He was so focused when on the field and rarely showed any emotion. Certainly a surprise to see him being very excitable and loud on TV...and in a good way.
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would of easily passed Lockett if he was selfish
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If Dunstall had peroxide hair and wore flouro boots he would have been noticed a lot more as the champion he was
Was probably the first gun FF who really put in the defensive work on the turnover too.
Was probably the first gun FF who really put in the defensive work on the turnover too.
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true, he looked like just about every other hawk player in that time so he did go a bit unnoticed
Happy to concede the first line of your claim, although 1254 career goals is hard to ignore and there is also the fact that 'goal assists' were rarely acknowledged as part of the game back then...
Related story - Early 90's, a good mate (Pies supporter) and I were watching our respective teams battle it out. It was a rather scrappy match with few highlights when early in the last quarter with the Hawks up by a few goals, suddenly Dunstall launches himself horizontally with the ball seemly gone past him and pulls off an incredible two-handed slips type mark!
Mate looks at me and exclaims; 'Oh FFS!, that's impossible, I'm outta here!' and wanders off shaking his head heading for exit...
Dermie. Great player but have always struggled to buy into his claim that most of his 'rough stuff' was nearly always in reaction to earlier incidents against him or team mates as 'square-ups'..?
As Andrew Bew's once told me, even sarcastic compliments, like 'nice hair mate, ha,ha,ha' were often used as convenient excuses for his regular violence - and Bew's also recalls; for such a skilled player he sure did miss the ball a lot, but rarely your head, when attempting to spoil during marking contests...
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No player symbolised the eighties more than dermie. A true character of the game who probably isn’t remembered as highly as he should be.
