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I think this Dustin SAGA is affecting the club more than anyone would care to admit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It does put a wall up that stops us from just getting on with business.
Most clubs have to deal with this sort of thing every year and we're going to have to get used it to it as it will happen a fair bit in the upcoming years.
 

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Dusty never said that,nor his manager. Relax guys he is staying. Announced this week or next at the latest

And you have mail on this or just guessing?

His manager while on holiday leaked to the HUN that they knocked back an offer. A knock back Dad flew down from Sydney to help delivery.

This wasn't just an email saying "sorry, you need to do better"
 

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Most clubs have to deal with this sort of thing every year and we're going to have to get used it to it as it will happen a fair bit in the upcoming years.
I fully agree mate, but considering we as a club haven't dealt with it for quiet some time i think it's having an effect.
 

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And you have mail on this or just guessing?

His manager while on holiday leaked to the HUN that they knocked back an offer. A knock back Dad flew down from Sydney to help delivery.

This wasn't just an email saying "sorry, you need to do better"

Yeah I have mail, I am not one to guess or offer something without what i believe is fact to back it up. I don't know who told you that Dusty's dad delivered the rejection, that's absolute shit. Now rfctiger74, I am not having a go at you.

I have had it from a very very good certainty that he is staying, whats the hold was a certain sponsor who has signed up is agreeing to have dusty do some marketing for them. That is still being nutted out, once complete he will sign in the next fortnight, more Tuesday next week but could be earlier.

Now I am just sharing what I have learnt, I actually posted this last week then caro came out AFTER i posted saying dusty will sign this week....i know my mail is strong on this.

Now as to my source, i cant say. In a open forums but if you want to PM me and give me your word to keep it confidential i might let it slip out hehe
 

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Yeah I have mail, I am not one to guess or offer something without what i believe is fact to back it up. I don't know who told you that Dusty's dad delivered the rejection, that's absolute shit. Now rfctiger74, I am not having a go at you.

I have had it from a very very good certainty that he is staying, whats the hold was a certain sponsor who has signed up is agreeing to have dusty do some marketing for them. That is still being nutted out, once complete he will sign in the next fortnight, more Tuesday next week but could be earlier.

Now I am just sharing what I have learnt, I actually posted this last week then caro came out AFTER i posted saying dusty will sign this week....i know my mail is strong on this.

Now as to my source, i cant say. In a open forums but if you want to PM me and give me your word to keep it confidential i might let it slip out hehe

Thanks dude, and no issue keeping your source to yourself, only idiots demand names to be named.

On what you have said, it makes sense, but doesnt (bear with me)

As one of the posters on this thread pointed out, the lack of marketing is a key reason Dusty would be getting less than Lids/Cotch/Jack. Getting Dusty more involved with marketing THE CLUB could allow some of our marketing allowance to go to him.

However I don't think the hold up would be a sponsorship issue. Its against the cap rules to have third party deals with any club involvement. If a deal with an RFC sponsor was connected to a contract, this will be considered a breach. The two would have to be separate and distinct negotiations, or we could be facing a sanction.
 

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Thanks dude, and no issue keeping your source to yourself, only idiots demand names to be named.

On what you have said, it makes sense, but doesnt (bear with me)

As one of the posters on this thread pointed out, the lack of marketing is a key reason Dusty would be getting less than Lids/Cotch/Jack. Getting Dusty more involved with marketing THE CLUB could allow some of our marketing allowance to go to him.

However I don't think the hold up would be a sponsorship issue. Its against the cap rules to have third party deals with any club involvement. If a deal with an RFC sponsor was connected to a contract, this will be considered a breach. The two would have to be separate and distinct negotiations, or we could be facing a sanction.

All good man.

Again I know just what I have been told from someone who is very close to it. Even he was a little vague on the details re sponsor. He told me a month ago about Bingle and then it happened so ill back him, of all people he would know.
I am actually excited to see how this turns out hehe
 

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Yeah I have mail, I am not one to guess or offer something without what i believe is fact to back it up. I don't know who told you that Dusty's dad delivered the rejection, that's absolute shit. Now rfctiger74, I am not having a go at you.

I have had it from a very very good certainty that he is staying, whats the hold was a certain sponsor who has signed up is agreeing to have dusty do some marketing for them. That is still being nutted out, once complete he will sign in the next fortnight, more Tuesday next week but could be earlier.

Now I am just sharing what I have learnt, I actually posted this last week then caro came out AFTER i posted saying dusty will sign this week....i know my mail is strong on this.

Now as to my source, i cant say. In a open forums but if you want to PM me and give me your word to keep it confidential i might let it slip out hehe

Onya Tiger71.

I'm sure a few drama queens will appreciate your no-nonsense approach once the announcement has been made :)
 
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Thanks dude, and no issue keeping your source to yourself, only idiots demand names to be named.

On what you have said, it makes sense, but doesnt (bear with me)

As one of the posters on this thread pointed out, the lack of marketing is a key reason Dusty would be getting less than Lids/Cotch/Jack. Getting Dusty more involved with marketing THE CLUB could allow some of our marketing allowance to go to him.

However I don't think the hold up would be a sponsorship issue. Its against the cap rules to have third party deals with any club involvement. If a deal with an RFC sponsor was connected to a contract, this will be considered a breach. The two would have to be separate and distinct negotiations, or we could be facing a sanction.
reading this and other comments and hoping tige74 is on the money could the NEED for this to be 2 separate deals be the reason for the holdup ?
 

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reading this and other comments and hoping tige74 is on the money could the NEED for this to be 2 separate deals be the reason for the holdup ?

have no idea mate, again my mail is close to all this but is just a average bloke not a lawyer. Funny enough now Robbo has come out and catagoricaly stated Martin is staying 100%. He actually said "read my lips, 100% martin is staying.".

Again my mail is strong. I'll check with my "mail" after work and see if i can get an update.
 

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All good man.

Again I know just what I have been told from someone who is very close to it. Even he was a little vague on the details re sponsor. He told me a month ago about Bingle and then it happened so ill back him, of all people he would know.
I am actually excited to see how this turns out hehe

We just need them to be separate. We all know what happened with the Crows, Balfours, and the douche Tippet.
 
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I hope he stays of course

But

He is in no position to be holding the club to ransom.

We are playing in our first finals forever, how can players that have yet to play in finals ask for so much.

When the team makes finals consistently then fair enough. But we haven't have we. Next year we might not make it. Then we are paying overs for nothing.

As much as I want him to stay, with the attitude he can go.

He's no brownlow medalist.

He can be replaced.
 

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I hope he stays of course

But

He is in no position to be holding the club to ransom.

We are playing in our first finals forever, how can players that have yet to play in finals ask for so much.

When the team makes finals consistently then fair enough. But we haven't have we. Next year we might not make it. Then we are paying overs for nothing.

As much as I want him to stay, with the attitude he can go.

He's no brownlow medalist.

He can be replaced.


Ok on this and just to defend dusty. Dusty is not holding the club to ransom, yeah he wants a little more because he feels its justified but he dead set loves the club the players but more importantly loves leppa and the coaches. He is devoted to leppa as much as he is to some in the playing group.

When his nuff nuff of a manager played hardball, his dad came to the club to clarify there feelings ( maybe thats where people thought his old man gave the bad news, was the reverse in fact). From Dustys dad and family, they all want him to stay. I better stop here as i might be getting close to getting my mail busted lol
 

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Ok on this and just to defend dusty. Dusty is not holding the club to ransom, yeah he wants a little more because he feels its justified but he dead set loves the club the players but more importantly loves leppa and the coaches. He is devoted to leppa as much as he is to some in the playing group.

When his nuff nuff of a manager played hardball, his dad came to the club to clarify there feelings ( maybe thats where people thought his old man gave the bad news, was the reverse in fact). From Dustys dad and family, they all want him to stay. I better stop here as i might be getting close to getting my mail busted lol

Just on this, if Dad gave the good news, who gave the bad. Carr leaked the HUN he was on holiday, so it wasnt him
 

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Just on this, if Dad gave the good news, who gave the bad. Carr leaked the HUN he was on holiday, so it wasnt him

At work so I'm rush typing..ill slow down a bit and clarify.

Carr informed the club that his client was not happy about the new offer and listed the reasons why. He also leaked some of that to the HUN and other media mates.

Dad came to let hardwick and co know they Dusty and himself never told the press anything and it must have got out from his manager. So basically just reconfirm to the coaching group that Dusty wants to stay. The relationship between our club and Dusty and his dad is unique.

Its my impression from what I have been told. Carr has been given some pretty clear instructions now from the Dusty camp. So we should see the deal signed this week or next. I posted this late last week and now caro and robbo have both come out there is zero chance dusty is leaving. I recon they believe that because Carr probably told them he got chewed out by dustys dad lol. that last bit is a guess ( the dad chewing out bit lol )
 

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Just speculating here but wouldn't it make sense for them to knock back the offer if Ralph is overseas. Wait till he gets back and sort it all out.
 
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