Dustin Martin Contract Thread [GWS Will Not Offer Dusty a Contract]

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From seeing an interview with Tom Boyd on 360 a few weeks back he just seems a quality kid raised in a good family. If we could snare pick 1 it would be huge for us. Make it happen Tiges! :thumbsu:
 

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It would,But we won't be in any position too demand for anything else.Lets face it,If thats what their final offer is then we will take it.And they know it.

True but keep in mind Choco and Leon both have strong ties to our club and GWS. We are confident with that and know a fair deal will be worked out.
 

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I have so many thoughts on this that have just propounded with a long day reading news and this thread, but all I will provide for now, what with the issue seemingly hotter than it has been all week, is my own personal conspiracy theory.

The Steps of this Mess:
1. Ralph Carr does a Ralph Carr - promises his client a stack of cash more than the club is willing to pay and says he'll go the distance to get that sum, like he did with Cloke. Promises the player won't have to move, and that though it might take a toll, they'll achieve their goal.

2. Like the Cloke saga, once this amount isn't met Carr tells the club he is looking at other options for his player to get what they (read: he) wants, with neither he nor the player ever really considering another club.

3. Now, the difference between last year and this year. Last year Collingwood folded, realised that they could not give up their most important player, and relented, just a little, to get Carr what he wanted. This year, with Martin and Cloke both very different in importance (and trouble) to their clubs, it didn't quite work out the same. Richmond called the bluff, knew his shit from last year with Cloke, and said they would not improve their offer, and went to the media to state that the offer was off the table and Martin is looking at other options.

4. Carr, stunned by this move and with few options, has to go ahead with his bluff as if it was real. Other clubs come calling, but he fends them off with sums that are too high and a lack of real interest as Dusty really wants to stay at Tigerland.

5. Carr then, in keeping with his phoney stance, has to do something he didn't have to with Cloke and Collingwood, and actually has to follow through on his threat. He organises some haphazard joke of a meeting with GWS, in which all the country knows that Martin is there, somehow with hundreds of photos being taken and all of the GWS powerbrokers present. Carr feigns heavy interest in the move, while he and Martin have no intention of actually going through with it, but rather using it as a last ditch attempt to get Richmond to raise their offer.

6. Over to the Tigers. They have 3 options. If they really want Martin, they can fall for this ruse and pay overs. Or they can put the original offer, which they know Martin wants, back on the table and hope he signs. Or, and this is quite possible, they have decided that they have had enough of all the bullshit, and choose to trade Martin even though both he and the club want to remain together.
Great Post Mate.I'd say your pretty close to the mark on all counts.Will be very interesting today.
 

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I've resigned myself to the fact that he's gone. Over to the club now to get the best trade from GWS. God help my missus if we get Pick 1.

She's pretty safe then since we are no chance at pick 1, best we can hope for is a player and a pick. But don't get too emotional if we only get one of the other.

If we get nothing then it's time to join the Essendon supporters on their rampage through AFL house
 

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Yeah no way we will get pick 1. Maybe if we threw in Cotch to the trade as well.

I think Adams and pick 9 is a pretty fair deal for Dusty.

From all reports, it sounds like the club have finally had enough with Dusty's shit and honestly I don't blame them. I think he's become too much of a hassle and it's time to get what we can for him.

Plus, if he does leave for nothing, then yeah, it'll hurt us for next season, but not as much as you might think. Someone will step up to replace him, he might not be as good as Dusty but he will hopefully be able to run out a game. Plus, we'll have a $500k+ shaped hole in the salary cap to lure a free agent either this year or next. It isn't doomsday.
 

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Stoked that Reece has re-signed. I hope Dusty sees the light and resigns too. But....what if he doesn't AND Adams goes To Collingwood. Tiger71 has said that we'll get a fair trade. Surely when GWS have been saying all year that the Melbourne clubs should trade a star for Pick 1, this is what they were talking about? I'm curious, What would be fair trade that doesn't include Adams?
 

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I've been out of action for a couple of days, why do we find out today if dusty is staying?
Club set a deadline, make up your mind by end of today, if not you will be traded. Dragged on to log and we have other things we need to do, the world doesn't revolve around Dustin Martin.
Personally i'm at the stage that I would rather get rid of him, shown his true colours, who knows what he will want next contract. We get a good deal and we very well come out of this a stronger side going forward.
 

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Club set a deadline, make up your mind by end of today, if not you will be traded. Dragged on to log and we have other things we need to do, the world doesn't revolve around Dustin Martin.
Personally i'm at the stage that I would rather get rid of him, shown his true colours, who knows what he will want next contract. We get a good deal and we very well come out of this a stronger side going forward.

Next contract he may turn into Dr. Evil and ask for "one billlionnnnn dollars"
 

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If Dusty doesn't sign with us, as we look for suitable trades, which he then rejects, and says he wants to go into the draft, how many of you expect the Tigers to ask for mediation. I couldn't see the Tigers letting Dusty go free of charge, without something to show for it.

Also, with Melbourne and Brisbane interested, the GWS supporters in the MC thread seem a little cranky when mentioned that if that is the case, they are going to have to trade for him.
 

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surley the AFL wouldnt be happy to see Martin go to Brisbane.
they are under financial pressure and have 4-5 young guns wanting to leave.
they would also need to trade with us and that would probably need to include pick 7.
the only place Dusty will go to is GWS and personally i think its more to do with wanting to be closer to his old man.
if we only loose 1 of Cotchin, Martin, Deledio, Ellis, Vlaustin, Reiwoldt, Vickery, then man to loose is Martin.
On football ability he is in the top 1-2 at our club. but for what our club wants to stand for he in unfourtunalty in the bottom 1-2.

i will definaltey be happy with Adams and pick 9 for Martin.
 

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If Dusty doesn't sign with us, as we look for suitable trades, which he then rejects, and says he wants to go into the draft, how many of you expect the Tigers to ask for mediation. I couldn't see the Tigers letting Dusty go free of charge, without something to show for it.

Also, with Melbourne and Brisbane interested, the GWS supporters in the MC thread seem a little cranky when mentioned that if that is the case, they are going to have to trade for him.
Didn't melbourne pull out?
 

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Stoked that Reece has re-signed. I hope Dusty sees the light and resigns too. But....what if he doesn't AND Adams goes To Collingwood. Tiger71 has said that we'll get a fair trade. Surely when GWS have been saying all year that the Melbourne clubs should trade a star for Pick 1, this is what they were talking about? I'm curious, What would be fair trade that doesn't include Adams?
I think GWS were just mischievously throwing out the fishing line by publically touting pick one. Bit like real estate agents, offer the seller the world and at the 11th hour they settle for something a bit less.
 

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but i thought our offer was off the table?
so he has until today to start renegotiating with us again?
That's where the media is confused :p. If Dusty came to us today and said ill take the offer we had on Friday the club would do it. It's idiotic to think the club would delay this further in negotiating a new deal from scratch
 
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