Scandal Dustin Martin in drunken scuffle

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haha, premature ejaculation for going on mate, still has the club and AFL to deal with. Not sure why you think this is over.
What has Martin done wrong besides be inappropriately pissed, and at worse, was rude to a woman? Care to elaborate?
 

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You posted that "nothing has changed" as a result of the cops exonerating him.

Silly post, which I called out.
No, I didn't.

Here is my post:

I'm not sure what you think has changed - will still be sanctioned by club and/or AFL.

Now you see, the silly part is not correctly reading what I ACTUALLY said, as opposed to what would have suited your purposes better.

We call that a straw man.

You seem almost disappointed that the police, CCTV and independent witness accounts have cleared him. How puerile.
Do I? Considering I never said he would be charged by police, kind of hard for me to be disappointed.

I'm rather pleased he didn't act as alleged. Surely a threat to kill would have been a criminal offence. Police have unequivocally stated no such offence, or indeed any offence at all, was committed.

That is good news, and changes everything. For being drunk in public, a sanction of some sort is probably warranted. I'm happy to leave that to our Club's executive to resolve/ endorse.

Goose.
Awwww....

Martin has 'interacted' with a woman in a rather boorish way. We have video of him being asked to leave, we have his own apology for his actions.

I, quite accurately I might add, suggested that that AFL and/or club would smack him for that.

I mean, really Martin? Not that this sort of behaviour is ok at any time, but violence against women has to be THE social hot topic right now - the bloke is an absolute imbecile.
 

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I love this. A essendon supporter wanting Dusty crucified off the back off one womens accusations which have been proven untrue. Its funny, Essendon got a leg up and a shield by the AFL to help them survive when they were caught cheating and Jade expects the AFL to crush Dusty when the cops, ill say that again, the police have cleared him.

Bottom line, not one witness heard the threat and has come forward, not one. Why ? He was drunk, so loud but nobody heard it ?

How could Dusty slam his hand against her head when a table was separating them as proven in the CCTV vision ? How could he hold chopsticks over her head when a table was separating them ?? I will tell you how, he did not do it and the police, afl, the club know he did not do it.

What is pathetic in all this, people have judged Dusty and assumed his guilt from the start, solely based on his appearance and what they assume his actions would have been based on that fact, that is racist and you disgust me.

There is a huge reason why the media now has said zero, they know she lied. Maybe she wanted to impress her boss, who knows but she has got caught out as the facts in her story has not held up at all.

People have suggested because he apologized he must be guilty. Well you simpletons, he apologized for being drunk before she went on TV and lied her ass off. Witnesses that were there have come forward and said she was super aggressive to Dusty, baiting him to react. I have no doubt he insulted her in response but the rest is now proven to be made up bullshit and that has now been proven.

The AFL wont touch Dusty. The club will fine him for being Drunk in pre season,maybe take a leaf out of Carltons books and punish Dusty with more training. The irony, jade and others like him expect Dusty to cop more from the AFL then known drug cheats, its laughable.
 

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No.

I'm saying that without a complaint/statement from the victim they conducted a cursory investigation. I doubt they would have conducted any investigation if the incident hadn't been publicised.
The police put out a statement saying they determined that no criminal offence took place any after reviewing the CCTV footage and independent witnesses. It's not a case of them saying it's inconclusive, they actually determined it. In the end the only thing to charge Dusty on is the woman's testimony. Are you advocating that this should be the level of evidence to determine someone guilty of a crime that could put them in prison? Or is it that these matters should be resolved with this level of evidence by relying on the media and the persons employer to punish them simply by their complaint (which appears to be exaggerated at best in this case)?
 
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What are they going to do, a token fine, yeah real scary, keep clutching those straws, NO CRIMINAL OFFENCE occured, so please what are they going to get him for other than for having too many froffies, was keeping to himself until this woman stuck her nose in where it didn't belong.
Good grief.... I rest my case Tigers fans....
 

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So he's been cleared by club and AFL ?
jade is right. Dusty has been now proven never to have made those threats. The police have investigated a truly impartial organisation not influenced by the AFL like that other "body" that saw EFC not guilty.

The women lied. It is as simple as that.
 

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ITT: Richmond fans thinking they are somehow vindicated despite all and sundry telling them from the get go it was the AFL they had to be concerned about.
I feel a little dirty agreeing with you two!
Richmond are a disappointing football team.
 

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"I told you when I get like that, get out of my way"

- Jake the Muss
Is that what Hurley said when he actually beat a Taxi Driver ?

I wonder why the lady did not report it to the police of a fear of future court action ? Why, if she was being truthful, would she fear being sued etc ? Bottom line, she lied, witnesses back that up. AFL wont do shit.:)

"The woman had decided not to make a statement to police for fear of being identified in any potential future court proceedings."
 

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No, I didn't.

Here is my post:

I'm not sure what you think has changed - will still be sanctioned by club and/or AFL.

Now you see, the silly part is not correctly reading what I ACTUALLY said, as opposed to what would have suited your purposes better.

We call that a straw man.



Do I? Considering I never said he would be charged by police, kind of hard for me to be disappointed.



Awwww....

Martin has 'interacted' with a woman in a rather boorish way. We have video of him being asked to leave, we have his own apology for his actions.

I, quite accurately I might add, suggested that that AFL and/or club would smack him for that.

I mean, really Martin? Not that this sort of behaviour is ok at any time, but violence against women has to be THE social hot topic right now - the bloke is an absolute imbecile.
You see the ink and you want him to be the bad guy. You've doubtless never met the bloke, far less know him.

I'm glad the police exonerated him.

Sorry if you wanted a poster boy for violence against women, but keep looking. There are plenty around.

Whatever sanction is warranted for being discourteous in a public place, will be handed down. Let's hope we take this indiscretion more seriously than other clubs in the past. Yours included/ especially.
 
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